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Pudding 11 Nov 2005 03:28

Who's the BEST lead guitarist Meat Loaf has worked with?
 
Who do you think THE best lead guitarist Meat Loaf has worked with is? Not just touring, but studio as well.

For me it would have to be Todd Rundgren. No one has ever made a guitar sound like a motorbike the way he did.

Pud :twisted:

Vickip 11 Nov 2005 04:58

Paul Crook .. he's absolutely incredible !
Vicki

Heli 11 Nov 2005 08:13

Well Pud, Todd does rock after all ;-)!! oooh i remember when I went to see him last year....i was on front row and he got right up to the edge of the stage and just played his guitar!!!! *jaw drops* !! Was pretty magnificant!!

Seeing as though Paul is the only one I've seen, I've got to say him really! Damon was good, but I prefer Paul's style of playing more....^_^!

Leah 11 Nov 2005 08:48

Hmm best lead guitarist for me is somebody who we haven't seen play live yet and that is Eddie Martinez, My personal favourite though has to be Pat Thrall with Paul coming 3rd.:D

Pudding 11 Nov 2005 08:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heli
Seeing as though Paul is the only one I've seen, I've got to say him really!

This why I put Not just touring, but studio as well. in my original post. I think some are basing their opinion purely on the fact that they've seen them in concert, which doesn't necessarily mean they're the best but the best they've seen.

I'm sure most people here have Bat 1, Bat 2, Deadringer, WTTN, CHSIB etc etc etc plus the official video's, concert video's/DVD's, plus the numerous bootlegs knocking about and so on and so forth. So I think a fairly good, educated, impartial point of view can be given.

Pud :twisted:

Heli 11 Nov 2005 09:27

Well to me, you can do anything in the studio...you can make certain sounds by working on them etc......but on stage it's there and then and you're almost ripped to your bare essentials.

Todd played that solo once....Paul plays it everynight on tour! Now that's gotta say something, right??

Deb 11 Nov 2005 09:55

Have to agree with Heli there. What we hear on an album is a lot of work that has / can be played about with. What we hear on stage is far nearer whats real. So choosing a touring band member is just as good :-)

Which mucks your idea of me chosing due to me favs, as that would actually be Damon lol. But I do feel Paul has the all round better package. Playing / stage presence etc.

Pudding 11 Nov 2005 10:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deb
Which mucks your idea of me chosing due to me favs, as that would actually be Damon lol. But I do feel Paul has the all round better package. Playing / stage presence etc.

Actually it doesn't muck anything up because I never said people are choosing due to their favourites, I said: I think some are basing their opinion purely on the fact that they've seen them in concert which is true.

Also I'm not talking about all round package, looks, hair colour, leather pants etc don't constitute a good musician, I'm talking about pure playing ability. Even if some knobs were twiddled in the studio for Todd, I'm sure enough people have seen him play live with Utopia etc.

Pud :twisted:

AndyK 11 Nov 2005 10:28

Now this is a tough one ... for me it's down to Paul or Bob Kulick for the on stage work or Todd for the recording.

Best technically (in terms of playing skill) has to be Paul, likewise stage presence, although Bob was great in a mid-80's poodle rock way (if a bald man can be a poodle rocker).

Todd has produced some fantastic recorded work, and live he is spectacular. But I think that for sheer versatility Paul edges it - his solo's are less screaming than Pat Thralls or Damons and there's a calrity to his playing - especially when coupled with the backup from Randy that is incredible.

Heli 11 Nov 2005 11:03

Studio wise then I will definitely have to agree with Todd...BOOH technically as genious and that was definitely due to Todd (in my opinion). He's just a musical genious! :mrgreen:

But my vote still goes for Paul. Live is always better imo!

Bart 11 Nov 2005 11:31

My choice is based on sentimental and it is Bob Kulick. During my teens he was Meats guitarplayer. His stageprecense is good and funny. When he spinnes around it is great to watch and he has got his own sound. It is clear to hear when he is playing. Besides that a bold thin man besides the fat long hair dude.

Deb 11 Nov 2005 11:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding
Actually it doesn't muck anything up because I never said people are choosing due to their favourites, I said: I think some are basing their opinion purely on the fact that they've seen them in concert which is true.

Also I'm not talking about all round package, looks, hair colour, leather pants etc don't constitute a good musician, I'm talking about pure playing ability. Even if some knobs were twiddled in the studio for Todd, I'm sure enough people have seen him play live with Utopia etc.

Pud :twisted:

I've seen Todd and Paul play and I still think Paul.

Winston 11 Nov 2005 14:15

Paul

The Flying Mouse 11 Nov 2005 14:25

:twisted: Would have to say Paul.
His motorbike guitar is out of this world :yikes:
Also, that note at the begining of 2 Outta 3 on live with the Mel Symph :cool: .
Most amazing thing is his energy.The run on Out Of The Frying Pan, never missing a note, that was something else to watch :shock: .
Close runner up would be Mr Pat Thrall :twisted: .Great stage presence, and let's face it, the boy can play :up: .

KebLou 11 Nov 2005 16:18

I don't agree with the guitars being played about with, when you play in the studio the difference is if you make a mistake you can go over it, whereas if you make a mistake on stage you just have to carry on. Granted people do mess about with it, but it's a waste of time playing it if you are because you can generate the guitar sounds without playing. I think Paul live, he's the only I've seen play lead for Meat, but Todd as well, if we can take into account other cd's concerts they've played at, Todd again.

Diane 11 Nov 2005 17:17

Todd Rundgren. The man is a genius, a wizard, a true star! The very best guitarist ever on a Meat Loaf album.

Paul Crook has brought a whole new element to the live Meat sound ... a much punchier, harder edge without losing any of the melodic quality of the songs. My vote goes to him for best Neverland Express guitarist.

Diane

Heli 11 Nov 2005 17:43

I'd like to also remind you all that Brian May has worked with Meat Loaf, so I vote for him! :mrgreen:



(God I'm such a geek aren't I :roll:).....

...........don't answer that! :twisted:

Pudding 11 Nov 2005 22:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heli
I'd like to also remind you all that Brian May has worked with Meat Loaf, so I vote for him! :mrgreen:

That's true, I forgot about him, I'm gonna change my vote from Todd to Brian. Anyone who can write a song about women with fat arses, has got to be some kind of genius :))

Pud :twisted:

Heli 11 Nov 2005 23:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding
That's true, I forgot about him, I'm gonna change my vote from Todd to Brian. Anyone who can write a song about women with fat arses, has got to be some kind of genius :))

Pud :twisted:


:cheer: YEY!!! Me and Pud agree!! :lmao: Miracles to happen! :twisted:

dottie 12 Nov 2005 11:30

Bob Kulik definitely - grew up with him - if you know what I mean;) and he did let me touch his tight leopard skin trousers at Hammersmith - just the once.;)

chrissylf22 17 Nov 2005 12:04

i would have to say Paul

Skeleton 17 Nov 2005 13:02

I think itīs Paul or Todd.. Difficult to choose. Both of are excellent guitarists..

Jaymze 13 Dec 2005 20:17

Pat Thrall- that man is rock and roll all over

Space Monkey 14 Dec 2005 22:27

I think Paul's a great guitarist, but sometimes perhaps a bit too flashy. On the Melbourne DVD/CD he misses the start to YTTWROOMM, for example.

I really liked Pat Thrall live, although was it Bob playing guitar on Two Out Of Three on 'meat loaf live', because that solo is awesome?

I think if we're saying 'best' then Todd has to take it for his work on Bat. The Bat motorbike on the album can never be beaten. Also, just by 'filling in' as he puts it, he added all the riffs to Bat in between lines.

Suslak615 17 Dec 2005 17:30

None of those are the best guitarist Meat ever worked with, its Davey Johnstone who performed on the Dead Ringer album is an amazing guitarist. He is better known as the longtime guitarist with Elton John, and he plays all the guitar on almost all of Elton's classics, he might not been with meat for long, but his body of worth is right up there with anyone.

Jack

tukayaway 14 Jan 2006 23:20

For me it's Paul. Great on stage, and I prefer his harder sound. But his skill is blending in the harder sound whilst keeping true to the originals.

ChloeLee88 16 Jan 2006 13:20

I think Paul's great...but I think its gotta be todd rundgren!
Chloe

Jaymze 18 Jan 2006 15:43

Pat Thrall
 
It'll always be Pat Thrall to me, then the Neverland and Meat were in full swing Rock, Thrall on lead guitar and Meat in full theatrical dress circa Bat II 1993-1994.

Benny 20 Mar 2006 21:47

I've liked them all, but my favourites have to be:

Paul Crook, Pat Thrall and Todd Rundgren. :D

RSG 14 Jun 2006 18:22

Well to me its really hard to name a few. He's had some good ones.

In no particular order, I would say

Paul for his attitude towards the sounds he makes and plays -deadly!
Bald guy :oops: I forget his name, he was around in '86, and wrote that awesome solo for 2outta3. Aaaand Todd because after all, he made Bat a good part of what it is today...

AndyK 15 Jun 2006 09:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSG
Bald guy :oops: I forget his name, he was around in '86, and wrote that awesome solo for 2outta3.

Bob Kulick. Fantastic guitarist (despite the spandex) and an alround great guy!

samurai7 28 Jul 2006 19:08

Yeah, it's Bob Kulick for me too. He played in the '78 tour and then re-joined for the Bad Attitude tour if I'm not mistaken, staying on for the BBIS and Lost Boys & Golden Girls tours. Very good indeed. Not that Pat, Paul etc aren't, but Bob's my fave.

RSG 28 Jul 2006 19:13

Kulick the bald man?, :lol:

samurai7 29 Jul 2006 02:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSG
Kulick the bald man?, :lol:


Yes, the very same. (except he wasn't bald in '78)

Bohemian 29 Jul 2006 06:32

My favourite guitarists that have worked with Meat are Todd and Tim Pierce.

Todd is Godd, make no mistake about that.

Leah 29 Jul 2006 17:04

My favourite guitarist's have to be Pat Thrall, Tim Pierce and Eddie Martinez.

Bohemian 30 Jul 2006 05:36

Whoa hold the phone, I forgot Davey Johnstone! I associate him with Bad for Good more than Dead Ringer so I completely overlooked him.

I'll Kill You If You Don't Come Back... niiiiiiiiiiice. Davey rocks hard.

Davey and Todd. Two guitarists you can set your watch by. :rambo:

MeatGrl1 30 Jul 2006 20:54

Paul 'Metal Loaf' Crook for me!

rockyboy74 17 Aug 2006 18:37

I think of modern time Meat Loaf's best guitarist has to be Paul Crook absolutely amazing on stage, but my other favorite is Bob Kulick from the album Bad Attitude not only is this a great 1980's album but the guitaring is out of this world try playing it full blast and I'm sure you will all no what I mean

jossnjuice 17 Sep 2006 22:27

gotta be pat thrall for me folks. saw him in 93 and he won me over with the first 2 min intro.

madagascar 10 Oct 2006 14:30

Bruce Kullick, the brother of the bald Bob Kullick.
Todd Rundgren, Pat Thrall, Paul Crook are amazing, as well.
Keep Rockin'
dominic

Evil One 24 Jan 2007 22:41

First: Pat Thrall
Second: Bob Kulick
Third: Paul Crook

lisa01 22 Feb 2010 15:45

whos the best lead guitarist meat loaf has worked with
 
PAUL CROOK AND RANDYFLOWERS

wolfy35 22 Feb 2010 16:13

Now that is a question with lots of possibilities.

Do you mean Live, Studio or Overall ( Having done both )

Live my preference would be Damon LaScott, probably not a popular choice but he is mine

Studio hands down for me Steve Vai

Overall pat Thrall

That was a hard one because im old enough to remember all Meat has worked with and they all have some very good plus points

Vickip 22 Feb 2010 16:32

Paul Crook & Randy Flowers :cool:

Evil One 22 Feb 2010 17:58

I gave my original thoughts three years ago. Since then Paul Crook has impressed me more.

1 Paul Crook
2 Pat Thrall
3 Bob Kulick

Bottom: Damon LaScott. He never impressed me, although perhaps that's not fair as he wasn't with the NLE long enough to really make the part his own.

mib 23 Feb 2010 09:21

Bob Kulick
Steve Vai

Smithie 25 Feb 2010 17:14

Paul & Randy are great, but my pick is Pat Thrall.

glamourgirl 25 Feb 2010 18:11

Randy is my favorite guitarist.


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