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Lord Kagan 31 Aug 2006 22:10

1 = 2
 
let a = b

a² = ab

a² + a² - 2ab = ab + a² - 2ab

2(a² - ab) = a² - ab

2 = 1

Multiply both sides by a,
Add (a² - 2ab) to both sides,
Factor the left, and collect like terms on the right,
Divide both sides by (a² - ab)

tell me if it makes sense :-P

mszee 31 Aug 2006 22:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Kagan (Post 255640)
let a = b

a² = ab

a² + a² - 2ab = ab + a² - 2ab

2(a² - ab) = a² - ab

2 = 1

Multiply both sides by a,
Add (a² - 2ab) to both sides,
Factor the left, and collect like terms on the right,
Divide both sides by (a² - ab)

tell me if it makes sense :-P

2(a² - ab) = a² - ab

is correct cause 0=0

but not 2=1

at least this is what I remember from math...but that was long ago and it was far away...oh god, how very far...


I don't understand how you came up with 2=1???

Lord Kagan 31 Aug 2006 22:37

im a math "genius" :-P

you get it because you times the first brackets by the 2 while the second side after the = isnt multiplied by 2

mszee 31 Aug 2006 22:40

2 multiplied by 0 is still 0????

Then yes...it's not 2=1 it's 0=0

You MUST be a genius...

Lord Kagan 31 Aug 2006 22:42

I dont get 0 from that line though

Lord Kagan 31 Aug 2006 22:43

Did you work it out by cancelling out the same numbers/letters?

Chris 31 Aug 2006 22:57

2(a² - ab) = a² - ab

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Kagan (Post 255653)
I dont get 0 from that line though


You should get 0 from this line.

You stated a = b so if we subsitute we get 2(a² - aa) = a² - aa

Apply the basic rule of calculus that brackets, division, multiplication, ddition & subtraction must be done in that order and we get:

2(0) = 0

:twisted:

mszee 31 Aug 2006 23:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 255655)
2(a² - ab) = a² - ab




You should get 0 from this line.

You stated a = b so if we subsitute we get 2(a² - aa) = a² - aa

Apply the basic rule of calculus that brackets, division, multiplication, ddition & subtraction must be done in that order and we get:

2(0) = 0

:twisted:


Thank god I am not senile yet!!!

hayley 01 Sep 2006 13:06

I dont get it i hate maths..................:(

ChloeLee88 01 Sep 2006 13:17

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh my head hurts.....maths......eeeeeeeeew...can't do it!
Chloe

hayley 01 Sep 2006 13:29

Im pleased im not the only one whose head hurts!!:shock:

Benny 01 Sep 2006 13:40

:zzz:

mszee 01 Sep 2006 14:19

And I've done all the calculations in my head...WORSHIP ME!!!

hayley 01 Sep 2006 14:23

:panic:

Lord Kagan 01 Sep 2006 18:46

I got 2 for that part ah well, sorry zina

mszee 01 Sep 2006 18:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Kagan (Post 255978)
I got 2 for that part ah well, sorry zina

What??? What did you just say??? I didn't get it...

Lord Kagan 01 Sep 2006 18:49

Ill never say it again :-P

mszee 01 Sep 2006 19:05

No, I seriously just didn't understand what you've said...

Lord Kagan 01 Sep 2006 19:06

the way i worked it out i got 2 instead of your anwser of 0

mszee 01 Sep 2006 19:06

Don't worry...my first answer was wrong too...hahahahahaha...I was just quick enough to delete it...

vrg 01 Sep 2006 19:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by mszee (Post 255766)
And I've done all the calculations in my head...WORSHIP ME!!!



Brava:!:

mszee 01 Sep 2006 19:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by vrg (Post 255988)
Brava:!:

Merci beau coup...grazie...danke...spasibo...

But most of all...but most of all...

Thank you so very much!!!

djfierce 01 Sep 2006 22:08

oh dear! why did i just read all that?
I don't feel any smarter, quite the opposite in fact! :shock:

dant796 01 Sep 2006 22:12

How about this one then:

The square root of 25 (sqrt(25)) is +/- 5

So,
sqrt(25) = sqrt(25)
5 = -5
10 = 0 (adding 5 to both sides)
1 = 0 (dividing both sizes by 10)

We know that for all numbers A, A*1 = A
Also, we know that for all numbers A, A*0 = 0

So, if we multiply both sides of that last equation by A, we get:

A = 0

Thus proving that all numbers equal zero.

hayley 01 Sep 2006 22:13

No more maths my brain is goin to explode!!!
Carl look what you have done!!!!!:twisted:

Lord Kagan 01 Sep 2006 22:22

Sorry hayley lol

Paul191 01 Sep 2006 22:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by hayley (Post 256166)
No more maths my brain is goin to explode!!!
Carl look what you have done!!!!!:twisted:

Maths is easy!

It's just like any other academic subject..... Thay are all very, very easy simply because they can all be learnt. It's harder for some people to learn than others but at the end of the day, it can be learnt. Even Einstein knew nothing about maths and science until he became interested in the subjects in his early 20s. He just basically sat there and learnt them!

The highest form of intelligence is creativity! It cannot be learnt and it causes more migrains than (0) = (0) and all that crap. Art and Design is such an underated subject and all for the wrong reasons. Most people are not open minded enough to understand the fact that the worlds greatest artists were in fact some of the worlds most intelligent people. Yikes, look at Da Vinci!

Chris 01 Sep 2006 23:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by dant796 (Post 256165)
How about this one then:

The square root of 25 (sqrt(25)) is +/- 5

So,
sqrt(25) = sqrt(25)
5 = -5
10 = 0 (adding 5 to both sides)
1 = 0 (dividing both sizes by 10)

Actually the second line should read +/-5 = +/- 5, as your line is a statistical impossibility the equation collapses at theat point and cannot be resolved further without knowing definite +/-.

Quote:

We know that for all numbers A, A*1 = A
Also, we know that for all numbers A, A*0 = 0

So, if we multiply both sides of that last equation by A, we get:

A = 0

Thus proving that all numbers equal zero.
A*1 = A and A*0 = 0 when multiplied by A gives us
A(A*1) = AA which is correct and A(0) = A(0) which is correct. You haven't proved A is 0, all you have proved is that A, when muliplied by 0, is 0.

God, I must be bored!!

mszee 02 Sep 2006 00:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 256272)
Actually the second line should read +/-5 = +/- 5, as your line is a statistical impossibility the equation collapses at theat point and cannot be resolved further without knowing definite +/-.



A*1 = A and A*0 = 0 when multiplied by A gives us
A(A*1) = AA which is correct and A(0) = A(0) which is correct. You haven't proved A is 0, all you have proved is that A, when muliplied by 0, is 0.

God, I must be bored!!

And now I am bored too...:(

mszee 02 Sep 2006 00:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 256272)
Actually the second line should read +/-5 = +/- 5, as your line is a statistical impossibility the equation collapses at theat point and cannot be resolved further without knowing definite +/-.



A*1 = A and A*0 = 0 when multiplied by A gives us
A(A*1) = AA which is correct and A(0) = A(0) which is correct. You haven't proved A is 0, all you have proved is that A, when muliplied by 0, is 0.

God, I must be bored!!

Ok...I looked at this closer...yes, we don't know whether it's +5 or -5...but...theoretically speaking...it can be assumed that it's -5 since -5 squared gives us +25...so by the same token...it is possible that it's -5...

I didn't look further cause it's on the other page and I am tired and hungry...later...

duke knooby 02 Sep 2006 00:56

i love applied mathmatics, great stuff!!! shame no one can do algebra anymore, well very few people.

duke knooby 02 Sep 2006 01:00

nope makes no sense, if a squared equals ab, which mathmatically in my day, was a times b, then a and b are the same number, and then i got bored.

mszee 02 Sep 2006 01:13

Alright...is this post your thoughts thread????

Am I in the wrong thread again???

Yes, of course, mathematically speaking there is only one answer and it's just 5...

But it's fun to look at the equations like this and boggle your mind to a degree that you start thinking that there is actually a possibility that 2=1 and all numbers equal 0...

Why don't all numbers equal 0 anyway???

Chris 02 Sep 2006 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by mszee (Post 256366)
Why don't all numbers equal 0 anyway???


Because as everyone should know nothing is equal to zero since the answer to Life, the universe & Everything = 42. :twisted:

Alex 02 Sep 2006 20:51

We apologise for any inconvenience. ;)

Lord Kagan 02 Sep 2006 20:54

Sorry for making this thread lol

Chris 02 Sep 2006 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amadiere (Post 256982)
We apologise for any inconvenience. ;)

Hmmm.... I think I feel good about it.

djfierce 02 Sep 2006 20:58

I am officially mathematically embarrassed :oops:

mszee 02 Sep 2006 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 256979)
Because as everyone should know nothing is equal to zero since the answer to Life, the universe & Everything = 42. :twisted:

The person above me appears to be Douglas Adams fan...

Oops...wrong thread again...:oops:

Back on topic...

Bravo, maestro!!!

You just solved my dilemma...

If all numbers should be zero...and the answer to the ultimate question of the Universe is 42...therefore, 42=0!!!

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

djfierce 02 Sep 2006 22:13

Who's Douglas Adams? DOH! :doh: now i'm culturally embarrassed

mszee 02 Sep 2006 22:14

He is a writer. The most famous book - Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

djfierce 02 Sep 2006 22:17

:oops: never had the urge to read it unfortunately, but i will now ;)

mszee 02 Sep 2006 22:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by djfierce (Post 257019)
:oops: never had the urge to read it unfortunately, but i will now ;)

You still don't have to...to each his own...and there is no shame in any of it...

mszee 03 Sep 2006 20:02

Here is another mathematical improbability for you...

If

You're as young as you feel AND age is just a number

Then

I=5

*Hugs and kisses*

duke knooby 04 Sep 2006 22:15

so if I=5, then whats f?

mszee 04 Sep 2006 22:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonty1666 (Post 257720)
so if I=5, then whats f?

Actually, it will never work cause I forgot to put End If...

And where do you see F anyway????

duke knooby 04 Sep 2006 22:31

as quoting is beyond me in this site, f is in the mathematical problem u put, ie If

mszee 04 Sep 2006 22:33

All you have to do is click on "Quote" button and presto...

I was actually sort of programming in VB...

If
Then
End if

If one condition is true or false, then do this...and close the shop...


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