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Paul Richardson 16 Jan 2011 23:03

Meat Loaf Live In Toronto 1993
 
I could've chosen links to any of half a dozen tracks from this concert because there all ~~~~ing amazing, but here's AFL ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV4CF...eature=related

... not the greatest of (audience) recordings but Meat is in incredible form.

Why, oh why, oh why, oh why, is there no official DVD release of a concert from this era ?

A pro shot version of this would kick the arse of MSO.

Thanks to Wario for posting.

Evil One 16 Jan 2011 23:19

I couldn't agree more. Despite the MSO concert being akin to riding a bombastic tidal wave along a rollercoaster of wonder and awe and a breathtaking piece of cinematography from beginning to end, a Bat 2 tour DVD would :shit: on it from a great height. :twisted:

As far as I'm aware, one of the Hudson Theater shows (with Jim) was filmed, but footage has so far not surfaced. The Netherlands show as featured on the Classic Albums DVD was filmed, but the set list was trimmed slightly. Then there is the History Of Meat Loaf Live show which is the likely candidate for DVD release, but featured even less songs and Meat ballsed up the second verse of Anything For Love. But did do Roll Over Beethoven as an encore.

Wario 16 Jan 2011 23:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 536382)
As far as I'm aware, one of the Hudson Theater shows (with Jim) was filmed, but footage has so far not surfaced. The Netherlands show as featured on the Classic Albums DVD was filmed, but the set list was trimmed slightly. Then there is the History Of Meat Loaf Live show which is the likely candidate for DVD release, but featured even less songs and Meat ballsed up the second verse of Anything For Love. But did do Roll Over Beethoven as an encore.

and the Prince's Trust was filmed as well.

duke knooby 16 Jan 2011 23:23

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Originally Posted by Paul Richardson (Post 536381)

Why, oh why, oh why, oh why, is there no official DVD release of a concert from this era ?

A pro shot version of this would kick the arse of MSO.

dunno, wish there was

and.. yes!!

Evil One 16 Jan 2011 23:24

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf (Post 536383)
and the Prince's Trust was filmed as well.

I'd forgotten that. So that's four potential concerts. :shock:

AndrewG 16 Jan 2011 23:30

There's probably more than that I'm guessing if the ponies haven't eaten the tapes.

Evil One 16 Jan 2011 23:32

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Originally Posted by AndrewG (Post 536386)
There's probably more than that I'm guessing if the ponies haven't eaten the tapes.

Quite possibly. Only a fool wouldn't stock up on footage of their huge, career reviving comeback tour.

Paul Richardson 16 Jan 2011 23:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 536382)
Despite the MSO concert being akin to riding a bombastic tidal wave along a rollercoaster of wonder and awe and a breathtaking piece of cinematography from beginning to end, a Bat 2 tour DVD would :shit: on it from a great height. :twisted:

Steady ... :twisted:

As good as MSO is, IMO Meat sang better in the late 80s / early 90s so personally I'd prefer this / Hudson / Netherlands for my orgasmic roller coaster ride of joy.

Plus just after Bat 2 you had only Bat1 / Bat2 songs in the set so no inferior albums to promote with :shit: songs in there. Heaven ...

Wario 16 Jan 2011 23:42

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Originally Posted by Paul Richardson (Post 536391)
Steady ... :twisted:

As good as MSO is, IMO Meat sang better in the late 80s / early 90s so personally I'd prefer this / Hudson / Netherlands for my orgasmic roller coaster ride of joy.

Plus just after Bat 2 you had only Bat1 / Bat2 songs in the set so no inferior albums to promote with :shit: songs in there. Heaven ...

trust me. you WONT prefer Netherlands 1994 to MSO. Just sayin'.

Evil One 16 Jan 2011 23:44

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf (Post 536395)
trust me. you WONT prefer Netherlands 1994 to MSO. Just sayin'.

I agree. It's certainly not Meat at his best. Hudson Theater would get the vote from me. If I had any sway over such things, which I don't. :cool:

SueW 17 Jan 2011 00:44

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf (Post 536383)
and the Prince's Trust was filmed as well.

Was it?

The whole concert from the Albert Hall in November 1994 or just Life Is A Lemon from Sheffield that month?

Sarge 17 Jan 2011 03:37

Wasted Youth is awesome. Jim Steinman should have been on stage more often. Meat appears so cool and full of energy - the incarnation of Rock & Roll. I especially like his screams during Lemon, although I've never liked that song much. It's strange that no live footage from that time has ever officially been released (aside from three songs on the Bat II Picture Show VHS), considering how popular Meat was at that time.

Wario 17 Jan 2011 10:23

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Originally Posted by SueW (Post 536419)
Was it?

The whole concert from the Albert Hall in November 1994 or just Life Is A Lemon from Sheffield that month?

Being as in 1994 Lemon was towards the begining of the set and the intro "thank you" was taken from Heaven Can Wait which was towards the end, Id say yes, the majority at least was filmed.

renegadeangel 17 Jan 2011 10:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 536388)
Quite possibly. Only a fool wouldn't stock up on footage of their huge, career reviving comeback tour.

An even bigger question would be if there may not come a time to do with Meat what was done with Bruce Springsteen and the Darkness sessions. I'm sure your right that there is film that is sitting around waiting to be put together, but I would have to wonder if there are any songs that were going to go on the album but got cut.
In an interview Meat said that Jim wrote AFL and a year later wrote Objects. I wonder if there were maybe a few songs that never made it. A DATE WITH DESTINY comes to mind.
A BAT 2 retrospective would be amazing.

SueW 17 Jan 2011 10:55

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf (Post 536450)
Being as in 1994 Lemon was towards the begining of the set and the intro "thank you" was taken from Heaven Can Wait which was towards the end, Id say yes, the majority at least was filmed.

If all you've seen filmed is Lemon and the thank yous then it was as I thought and that wasn't from the Meat Loaf Prince's Trust Concert.

On 17th November 1994 Meat Loaf performed a whole concert at the Royal Albert Hall where all proceeds went to the Prince's Trust (in fact the tickets said it was the Prince's Trust Concert). Prince Charles attended and sat in the Royal Box but I don't think he stayed for the whole concert. (He was introduced to Meat Loaf and the band before the concert.)

That was the first concert of the tour and later they played Sheffield on 22nd, 29th and 30th November and at one of those 3 concerts (I can't remember offhad which) they filmed Life Is A Lemon specifically with the thank you in it which Meat Loaf said that evening was for The Prince's Trust concert which was screened on TV as part of a big Prince's Trust concert programme.

samurai7 17 Jan 2011 11:00

Does anyone remember a program from the 94ish era, something to do with Virgin or EMI in which they showed various artists on the label performing live, including Meat doing 'Objects'? I'm sure it was released on VHS too.

Evil One 17 Jan 2011 11:11

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Originally Posted by SueW (Post 536455)
That was the first concert of the tour and later they played Sheffield on 22nd, 29th and 30th November and at one of those 3 concerts (I can't remember offhad which) they filmed Life Is A Lemon specifically with the thank you in it which Meat Loaf said that evening was for The Prince's Trust concert which was screened on TV as part of a big Prince's Trust concert programme.

Were the cameras recording for the whole show or did they specifically come out for that one song? It seems strange to do such a 'negative' song for a charity event, when something uplifting like Rock And Roll Dreams would be better suited.

SueW 17 Jan 2011 11:21

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Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 536457)
Were the cameras recording for the whole show or did they specifically come out for that one song? It seems strange to do such a 'negative' song for a charity event, when something uplifting like Rock And Roll Dreams would be better suited.

I'm pretty sure they only filmed the one song.

Paul Richardson 17 Jan 2011 23:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf (Post 536395)
Trust me. You WONT prefer Netherlands 1994 to MSO

May be you could do a montage type thing so we could all decide for ourselves which one of three / four Bat 2 concerts should be released as a DVD. Just a thought...

Wario 17 Jan 2011 23:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Richardson (Post 536493)
May be you could do a montage type thing so we could all decide for ourselves which one of three / four Bat 2 concerts should be released as a DVD. Just a thought...

keep a look out for a thread. thats a brilliant idea.

Paul Richardson 17 Jan 2011 23:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf (Post 536494)
Thats a brilliant idea.

Well, I try ... :wink:

I look forward to it.

loaferman61 18 Jan 2011 00:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by SueW (Post 536455)
Prince Charles attended and sat in the Royal Box but I don't think he stayed for the whole concert. (He was introduced to Meat Loaf and the band before the concert.)

Shame on Prince Charles, that seems rude. Did he not find it good enough to sit through 2 hours or so.

Wario 18 Jan 2011 01:12

ah this montage is more complex then I thought. i cant deal with it right now when I have 430 videos to make back.

PM sent to you paul

Paul Richardson 19 Jan 2011 00:33

Wario, thanks for PM. I think you have a point.

Still think this could at least be a poll with some examples from said concerts ?

Wario 19 Jan 2011 00:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Richardson (Post 536556)
Still think this could at least be a poll with some examples from said concerts ?

no point, regardless of examples everyone (including me) will pick the one where Jim was involved: Hudson Theater 1993.

Unless Im mistaken :shrug:


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