[The Flying Mouse]

Right, now i've tried to rest on this, and will try and address the matters raised on this thread last night.
I will ATTEMPT to do it in a logical and practical way, although that is not easy at the moment as I am still very bitter at what has happened here.

Originally Posted by Lucy!

The issue isn't the amount of posting Neil, it's the content.

Really?
Because from all the niggly little comments i've seen recently on the forum, it's all about the post count.

And what content anyway?
You said about massages?
Jesus tapdancing christ, talk about out of context here.
One or two stupid flirty remarks in how many dumb posts of person above me, one word story thread, bat & belfry.
I have seen MUCH more flirting here over the years than what I and Jo have posted, so please don't pretend that that is even an issue.
Unless it's an issue that only applies to me and Jo.

Originally Posted by Lucy!

It's constant posts that exclude everyone except two people because they're constant posts about your private lives.

Constant posts about our private lives?
WHERE?
I'm just not seeing it.
How is The Person Above Me or The One Word Story Thread (both standard and alternative versions) a keen insight into the personal life of me and Jo?

Originally Posted by Lucy!

but no-one wants to log on here and read things that really should be private between the two/three of you.

What for god's sake?
That "The person above me makes a nice Sunday dinner"?

Originally Posted by Lucy!

And to be honest if we're discussing maturity here then I really don't think calling people childish and ignoring things is the way forward here.

Maturity?
From what i've read on this thread, a good few people have been bitching about me, Jo, and Barbara via PM in a way and volume that beggars belief.
How the hell does that represent grown up and mature behavior?

NOBODY who has a problem with us has had the maturity or the nerve to try to talk to Jo Barbara or myself through PM about how they feel.
Nobody has thought it would be the right thing to do to contact another staff member, who could then contact one of us and explain that there is a problem.
Sorry, but THAT is immature, silly, catty, small minded and spiteful.
To slag people off behind their backs without them even knowing, or without a chance to answer for themselves is disgraceful.

Christ, what next?
A Yahoo group?

Originally Posted by Lucy!

Several people here have made little quips and remarks about it, but I think I can safely say that they've been made with the hope that perhaps the hint would be taken and we could avoid someone having to post as bluntly as I did. Unfortunately for everyone that didn't happen.

Don't think I haven't noticed thm.
And when i've responded to those quips and hints what has happened?
Either silence or pretend you're talking about something else.
Christ, how many little "quips" have I taken over a certain green jacket?
It'll still crop up now and then even though it's nearly one and a half years since RAH.
Are we supposed to be telepathic about what hints and quips are to be taken seriously and which are friendly leg pulling ones?
If there ARE and friendly leg pulling ones that is.

Originally Posted by Lucy!

Again, no-one has an issue with the quantity - like Deb says, RJ, Karl and Jonty posted constantly at one point too - the issue is the personal content that excludes everyone else and is things that really aren't for our reading

Again, the same points and the same response?
What are the big personal issues here?
Oh sorry, "Any chance of a cuddle to go with that pint? " posted in the bat & belfry is of such an intimate nature it sends everyone into a immediate bout of high embarrassment?
Come on for gods sake?

Originally Posted by djfierce

I agree completely with Deb, alot of people have private conversations using this board including some who complain about neil and co.

"A lot of people"?
I mean, this is PRICELESS.
Just how many people are involved in this little behind the scenes community?

Originally Posted by djfierce

Things do seem to go haywire once people know each other personally or date, which is why me and m dont post to each other too much on board, pretty much because none of it is relevant to any threads anyway but because our private life is just that M has a blog for the other stuff. I'm not saying everyone should do that its just how we do it.

Again, what is so revealing about our private lives in posts like the person above me?
What? "The person above is missed very much"?
It's hardly Watergate material here folks.

I hate to admit it, but not the vast majority of what I post is vastly profound idealogical theory or enlightenment that would have Einstein scratching his head in wonderment.
Most of what I post in off topic is CRAP.
It is the stuff this area and threads were built for.
Slapped or saved is never going to enable anyone to make a thorough phycological profile of me Jo or Barb, and the CIA will never be able to accurately predict our movements by reading whoever posts penultimate wins.

I'm just not seeing the vastly personal content here.

Originally Posted by djfierce

I'm talking about friends too, when you type something that you know only one or two other people will get then i define that as a private conversation, thats just me though.

Now this brings me nicely to the big "in joke" comments i've read.
Yes, we take the piss out of Steve on the forum.
This is not a very complex highly secret in joke that keeps everybody puzzled (and might I say i've seen a few of THOSE posted on the forums).
OK, here's the gag for those who never got onto it - now and again we post a random insult about him, or a remark about how to kill the fat ~~~~~~.
That's how simple that in JOKE is.

This is not the kind of in joke that is going to puzzle great minds is it?
Mentioning things said in PM's or on the phone, now THAT'S an in joke that excludes everybody else, and not the kind i'd post myself on a public forum.

Originally Posted by djfierce

Some people should look at themselves before criticising others i think, and i mean no one in particular before i get hounded, there are way too many to mention.

Thanks Anji, I knew I liked you for some reason

Originally Posted by Lucy!

It's inevitable on a forum of people who are friends both on and offline, including people who are couples, that there will be comments made that are for the attention of a specific person or group, "in jokes" are to be expected, but surely not constantly in every thread in an entire area of the forum? Especially by the Mod who posted rules stating we shouldn't do that.

See above.
How out can an in joke be and still be an in joke?
And if you'd care to read those rules.......................

Originally Posted by THE FLYING MOUSE

If you are having a conversation with one other member,consider continuing you're conversation via PM to keep the boards as clear as possible.Of course,if more than two people are talking,you are more than welcome to use the Postwhores topic.

There is not much conversation in the one word story thread.
Conversations between myself and Jo are kept to PM, the things we post on the forum are in line with the thread in question (one word story, whoever posts last etc)

Originally Posted by Lucy!

Like you Anji, Andy and I considering our private lives to be private, and apart from the fact it's no-one business what we get up to I very much doubt anyone here is interested enough to read about it anyway, which is why, like Michael, things we've done as a couple are told in Blog posts. That's also our choice and I respect other people's choices in how their conduct their relationships (be it as part of a couple or a friendship), the issue as far as i can see is that this is Off Topic for everyone, but it's hard to get involved in constant personal conversations

AGAIN, how much personal conversation is going on in the person above me thread?
FFS.
Me and Jo post on threads, and when other people post on those threads we post with them.
How do you break up a personal conversation that consists of one word posts?

Originally Posted by mszee

But when I personally see a happy couple (and thank god, we do have a few of them here) addressing each other on open threads I try to stay away. I am letting those couples talk to each other. Never will I intrude on a stream of conversation between two people who are considered a couple in real life or otherwise, unless I am in on the inside joke of some kind or am really close to them.

Now this would be very much appreciated, if we were actually having a conversation.
How can anybody but out of a conversation that doesn't exist?
Joanne asking for a vodka and red bull is NOT a highly personal tender moment.
How can anybody be put off posting in the person above me (alternative version) be put off posting because the last two posters are engaged to each other?

Originally Posted by mszee

So...I stay away from one thread for a while until I see somebody else joining in...and then I stay away from another thread if I see similar conversation there...and then I find myself staying away from most of the off topic (topic which I enjoy) threads...and then, I guess I feel left out...and sometimes when all threads are jumping I do try to chime in...but it does feel like being a 5th wheel and I just bud out...

Joanne, Barbara, or myself have NEVER excluded anyone from threads.
We will post to each other while nobody is posting, and then when somebody else joins on we post right along with them.
Again, these are not serious threads dealing with serious things, they are stupid, time wasting, and fun.

Originally Posted by djfierce

ok hun,
If something is wrong or members are acting inappropriately then it is the mods job not members to sort it out, yes Neil is a mod and maybe biased on this but he isnt the only mod.

Correct, and it has never stopped people reporting posts or certain kinds of behaviour on the forum to the staff if there has been a problem.
Yet in this case people have been happy to bitch behind our backs and make snide comments that they deny when asked in the slightest to elaborate on what they have said.


I am personally DISGUSTED by what has happened on this forum.
By the level of hostility, it's volume, and the spiteful way in which has manifested.


Later on in the thread Deb mentioned that Barb, Jo and myself would not be the only ones with hurt feelings.
Hurt feelings?
I was the one who was on the phone to a very upset Joanne last night, and it makes my blood boil that people I thought were our FRIENDS have caused upset like this because they don't like us posting as much.


To actually communicate behind our backs about something more than one person has indulged in in the past, with such poison, and then to accuse us of freezing everybody else out............


It is beyond the pail.


I am so angry about what has happened here, and sad, and worst of all, DISAPPOINTED.


I know that Jo doesn't feel comfortable posting here anymore, and quite frankly, neither do I.