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nikox1 · 27 Aug 2010, 02:17

@ Sarge.

i know Rick Brantley had written some of the songs before hand, he even recorded them i think? but that does not mean Meat was not looking for that type of song to fit hes story idea? Peace on Earth fits right in with it? as does Living on the Outside? so there was clearly an idea before hand?
didnt Rob Cavallo say that he only wanted to keep 2 from the original 15?
so maybe the original songs didnt fit the story, hence Meat got people to write some new stuff.

American Idiot and Hang Cool Teddy Bear are more similer than you think?
Meat usually never states any political views, well not in public anyway?
i believe American Idiot can be seen by everybody as an anti war record, less obvious is HCTB perhaps? but i feel there is a similer story dug very very deep into HCTB. it creeps into alot of the songs. i think HCTB is written in a very clever way, the lyrics are far darker than what is usually found on a Meat record.

and the modern cd buying public in general are not very bright imo, you only have to look at the charts

,, they download 2 or 3 songs off an album.
so no they wouldnt have a clue what a concept album is? but that said i know there is still 20% of the buying public who still care about music.

HCTB was directed at a younger audience, and if it didnt work, well what can you do? but it was a new sound and image for Meat, and he took a risk?
but if it sold 10m copies and had hit singles, the world would not say anything against it, it would be seen as a master stroke with or without bloody Patrick? but record companys will only promote something with a bat or hell in the title, and thats why im so happy for Meat that he enjoyed it, and 50% of hes fans liked it so much. he made a record that he loved and wanted to make.

27 Aug 2010, 02:17	#182
nikox1 Mega Loafer Join Date: 05.07.2007 Location: Front line of the battle Posts: 2,657	@ Sarge. i know Rick Brantley had written some of the songs before hand, he even recorded them i think? but that does not mean Meat was not looking for that type of song to fit hes story idea? Peace on Earth fits right in with it? as does Living on the Outside? so there was clearly an idea before hand? didnt Rob Cavallo say that he only wanted to keep 2 from the original 15? so maybe the original songs didnt fit the story, hence Meat got people to write some new stuff. American Idiot and Hang Cool Teddy Bear are more similer than you think? Meat usually never states any political views, well not in public anyway? i believe American Idiot can be seen by everybody as an anti war record, less obvious is HCTB perhaps? but i feel there is a similer story dug very very deep into HCTB. it creeps into alot of the songs. i think HCTB is written in a very clever way, the lyrics are far darker than what is usually found on a Meat record. and the modern cd buying public in general are not very bright imo, you only have to look at the charts ,, they download 2 or 3 songs off an album. so no they wouldnt have a clue what a concept album is? but that said i know there is still 20% of the buying public who still care about music. HCTB was directed at a younger audience, and if it didnt work, well what can you do? but it was a new sound and image for Meat, and he took a risk? but if it sold 10m copies and had hit singles, the world would not say anything against it, it would be seen as a master stroke with or without bloody Patrick? but record companys will only promote something with a bat or hell in the title, and thats why im so happy for Meat that he enjoyed it, and 50% of hes fans liked it so much. he made a record that he loved and wanted to make.