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**The Flying Mouse** · 07 Apr 2012, 00:21

And now (rather than just replying to people) some of my own thoughts........

My own feeling is that Meat's presence on the forum can sometimes be a double edged sword (the good outweighing the bad considerably, before anyone jumps on that comment).

There was an old naval rule (not sure wether it's still in force) that the captain was not allowed to dine in the wardroom with the other ships officers unless he was invited.
The reason for this is that the wardroom was a place of relaxation, and the captains presence could have a profound impact on the informal setting of the place.

That's what we have with Meat.

Once upon a time we were a forum of members who came here and shared their thoughts concerning all things Meat Loaf.
It was a very relaxed, friendly, and positive place. Certainly a place free of high running feelings and argument.

Then Meat came and sought us out.
We were pleased, amazed, and honoured that our musical hero came to visit us and talk to us.
Most of us still feel the same.

But his presence here comes at a price (a small one, I hasten to add, compared to the pleasure).
With Meat on the forums emotions run higher. Some are determined to have their say, others are determined to defend Meat against these people.
It leads to fighting.
A lot of fighting.

Meat himself is a passionate man, and when he is upset he reacts, sometimes over reacts, at what he sees as an attack upon himself.

Because for Meat, what is said here is very personal about him in a way few of us can begin to understand.

For instance, how would a baker feel if every loaf of bread he bakes is examined in detail and discussed?

But, as i've said before, I cannot believe that Meat came to see us to tell us what we can and can't think.
I believe that a lot of the people who are attracted to his type of music are not wired up that way.

I am personally disapointed that Paul has looked at the forum and has found us wanting.
I agree that Meat and his band shold have a place to come to where they are given the benefit of the doubt, and even a little lean way now and again.

But I would say to Paul, Meat, and the rest of the band, what you read on these forums is the honest feelings of a portion of the fanbase. It might not always be worded in the best way possible, but for the most nothing is posted with any intention to insult or hurt.

Never make the mistake that beause somebody says something critical you are not respected.

07 Apr 2012, 00:21	#27
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	And now (rather than just replying to people) some of my own thoughts........ My own feeling is that Meat's presence on the forum can sometimes be a double edged sword (the good outweighing the bad considerably, before anyone jumps on that comment). There was an old naval rule (not sure wether it's still in force) that the captain was not allowed to dine in the wardroom with the other ships officers unless he was invited. The reason for this is that the wardroom was a place of relaxation, and the captains presence could have a profound impact on the informal setting of the place. That's what we have with Meat. Once upon a time we were a forum of members who came here and shared their thoughts concerning all things Meat Loaf. It was a very relaxed, friendly, and positive place. Certainly a place free of high running feelings and argument. Then Meat came and sought us out. We were pleased, amazed, and honoured that our musical hero came to visit us and talk to us. Most of us still feel the same. But his presence here comes at a price (a small one, I hasten to add, compared to the pleasure). With Meat on the forums emotions run higher. Some are determined to have their say, others are determined to defend Meat against these people. It leads to fighting. A lot of fighting. Meat himself is a passionate man, and when he is upset he reacts, sometimes over reacts, at what he sees as an attack upon himself. Because for Meat, what is said here is very personal about him in a way few of us can begin to understand. For instance, how would a baker feel if every loaf of bread he bakes is examined in detail and discussed? But, as i've said before, I cannot believe that Meat came to see us to tell us what we can and can't think. I believe that a lot of the people who are attracted to his type of music are not wired up that way. I am personally disapointed that Paul has looked at the forum and has found us wanting. I agree that Meat and his band shold have a place to come to where they are given the benefit of the doubt, and even a little lean way now and again. But I would say to Paul, Meat, and the rest of the band, what you read on these forums is the honest feelings of a portion of the fanbase. It might not always be worded in the best way possible, but for the most nothing is posted with any intention to insult or hurt. Never make the mistake that beause somebody says something critical you are not respected.