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Originally Posted by Sarge
Again I 100% agree with Mr. Happy. I was about to add some thoughts but refrained from it. [...]
Anyway, I'd like to thank R. and the mods for all the work they have put in this place. It still is the best place to discuss Meat Loaf related topics. The issues I'm having with it aren't your fault. [...]
You've been doing a great job and created a nice meeting place for Meat Loaf fans. Thank you.
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I also agree with Mr. Happy, and I would like to add my thanks as well. I think many things are being done "right" here.
I'd also like to say that I don't feel that Robb did anything wrong, nor does he need to apologize, nor do "we", collectively. I don't know why it bothers me, but it does, that some people seem to feel that they have no right to have an opinion or criticism because they "don't know anything about music, therefore, I was wrong". I'm sorry, but I don't need to be a chef to know that the food is too salty.
I like Mouse's analogy about the ship's captain; as I've said before (and I won't say any more on the matter after this), there is an atmosphere on this board that doesn't exist on other forums (of other artists) of which I am a member. Obviously, I'm still here, so there must be something I like about it (and there are some great people here).
I think the reason we are all here is because we enjoy Meat's work to some extent, but I think what people need to respect (in all directions) is that there are varying levels of "fandom" (for want of a better word- commitment, maybe?), and some people are more emotionally invested in it than others, and that is perfectly fine. Just because some may be less passionate does not make them "haters".
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Originally Posted by stretch37
i think we have to make a choice......Either have Meat here with us and treat him and his band the way they request, or risk them not wanting to come here.
its been years of trial and error, and by no fault of his own Meat continues to be upset by his fan club....
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I really want to comment on this, and I hope I can express my feelings in the manner which they are intended. So, I guess I am going to just use general terms.
If one wishes to be treated with respect, one treats others with respect. Fear (of retribution) and respect are not the same thing. An attitude of "play my way, or I take my ball and leave" is not, IMO, respectful.
We cannot control how others treat us, or what they say to us. We can, however, control how we respond. I agree with Mouse that IMO, Meat does overreact on occasion, and that "fault" does not lie with us.