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Originally Posted by Skybird14
I did wonder if it was just a case of people being a fan of them both but I thought it was worth asking in case there was some other reason.  |
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No, Andy pretty much summed it up- I was coming back to post much the same thing.
I saw an interview with Kasim a while ago (I can't find it again, unfortunately), and he said that the start of Bat was basically himself, Max, Roy, and Todd laying down the basic tracks before anything else was added. Interestingly, he also said he didn't really expect the album to do too much, and didn't really think about it until he heard it on the radio in the car one day. When I asked him to autograph my copy, though, he told me he was quite proud of his work on the album.
Anyway, as Andy said, they have shared a number of the same musicians- Steve Van Zandt also played guitar on (and produced, I think) "Amnesty is Granted".
Roy Bittan definitely is a key player (pun not intended, lol) in the sound of both artists' work. An interesting note, though; I find a huge similarity in the piano intro to the "Dead Ringer" version of "More Than You Deserve" and the intro in the full-band version of "The Promise", yet Roy didn't play on that particular track (according to the credits), even though he's on the rest of "Dead Ringer". I find this inconsistency to be quote maddening.
I've also tried to do a "Chicken or the egg" analysis between when both songs were recorded, to no avail. (Yes, I realize I'm sounding like Wario now.
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Tangetially, I saw Steinman claim that at one point he was considering being managed by Jon Landau, Bruce's manager. I don't know what became of that. Also, they've (Bruce and Steinman) both worked with Jimmy Iovine.
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Originally Posted by AndyK
They are two completely different artists on stage though I think, seeing a Bruce and the ESB concert is almost like seeing the worlds best bar band, there's a real party atmosphere on stage and in the crowd, Meat's stage show is slightly different in it's intensity, is more polished almost more like a West End or Broadway production but no less intense and enjoyable.
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The ESB is the world's greatest bar band, IMO; there's nothing quite like them when they are firing on all cylinders. "Little Queenie" into "Twist and Shout" in St. Louis in '08 was just an incredible experience.
The thing, though, is that Bruce is also capable of putting in an extremely intense emotional performance as well- for example, "Backstreets" on the Darkness tour (how I WISH I had gotten to see one of those shows in person!). One of the the things I wish he'd do in his current shows is more slow songs, but unfortunately, today's audiences seem to lack the ability to pay attention for longer than a few minutes before they start to get restless.
