[The Flying Mouse]

Originally Posted by CarylB

Does this relate to Meat using the phrase you quoted and the word "homie"? Because if it does I'm really non-plussed Mouse that you feel it deserves a face-palm. Meat makes it plain he is pretty much the definition of the word from choice, and surely given it's an inteview in the US the phrase works?

I'm 35 and people have been known to comment on my use of the word "dude".

Speaking like that, in an interview laced with praise for rap, from my perspective, it seems that Meat is trying to be hip, to be something he is not, although I am the first to say that Meat is him and I am not, so Meat has more of an idea of what he is and what he isn't than I have, but it still sounds wrong from my perspective.

Does that make any sense?

Buzz words and phrases don't make hip, and sticking feathers up your ass doesn't make a chicken (if the interview wants to bring up Fight Club ).

To me, he's a rocker, and i'll always love him as a rocker

Originally Posted by CarylB

Not to me. I liked this interview a lot. Many truths conveyed and done so graphically. To me nothing "Goofy" at all .. some shrewd observations and some informed ones, conveyed clearly and with an appropriate sense of self-deprecation and fun

I meant the cartoon character
It's not what i'd expect St Peter to sound like.
In fact, perhaps a better way to put it is that if I got to the pearly gates and St Peter turned out to be Ali G, I would back slowly away from the gates and go see what's happening in hell

Originally Posted by CarylB

That's your perspective though isn't it? Meat can have his own, as can we all. I am one who thinks the genre has been skillfully integrated into his new album. I know you don't, and respect your right to not consider it so .. but neither can claim our view is a defining fact. I tend to agree with Meat's perspective that the more modern styles he referred to are what speak to a significant swathe of today's audiences. Rap doesn't encourage me to the slightest violence

Every one of our posts is based on personal perspective
None of this fact, and neither of us can claim to be right, but I still argue that Meat Loaf, to me, is very relevant. Rock music is relevant.
Perhaps rap speaks to "a significant swathe of today's audiences" (if you don't mind me borrowing the phrase ) but Bat was not recorded to speak to the significant swathe of 1977, nor was Dead Ringer hip in 81, MATLAF was not made for the trendies of 83 and Bad Attitude was not cool in 84.

I don't really need to go on do I?
Meat has never tried to be hip, or cool, or popular all the way through his career. He's always made his own beat and marched to it.

His success (IMHO) was because his music was so damn good, and a lot of people outside the significant swathe thought it was pretty motherf*cking great.

So OK, he wants a little rap on his album for artistic reasons, that's his choice (although not to my liking). to say that Rap is relevant and Rock in not, all I can say is that it depends on who's listening.
I respectfuly disagree with Meat on his perspective.

Originally Posted by CarylB

We find accord here I liked your story and examples which were very apposite.

Thanks.
I also remember that when he said that he believed all music should be free I replied that I thought all pies should be free

Originally Posted by CarylB

As to the rest, we'll need to agree to hold different views.