[CarylB]

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

I'm 35 and people have been known to comment on my use of the word "dude".

But hopefully they wouldn't in the US

Speaking like that, in an interview laced with praise for rap, from my perspective, it seems that Meat is trying to be hip, to be something he is not, although I am the first to say that Meat is him and I am not, so Meat has more of an idea of what he is and what he isn't than I have, but it still sounds wrong from my perspective.

Does that make any sense?

It makes sense, although personally I don't think Meat is trying to be hip. I accept he has explored, listened to and learned about a different musical genre to the point where he has found something there he had missed before. I'll admit I have not, and still find a lot of rap not to my taste .. although my aversion stems largely from it assaulting me at top volume from open car windows .. and I would not do that with Meat's music, which I love, simply because it is so discourteous to others. I love Meat's albums but I wouldn't force them on anyone. But that assaulting experience, repeated so often, is what set it apart for me. I am glad though that Meat has introduced me to some that does appeal, so at least I can acknowledge that for me it's the assault rather than the music, and I have found there to be more to it than I assumed.

Buzz words and phrases don't make hip, and sticking feathers up your ass doesn't make a chicken (if the interview wants to bring up Fight Club ).

I don't believe he is. I think this has been a personal discovery

To me, he's a rocker, and i'll always love him as a rocker

Fair enough. I love him as a rocker who is constantly exploring and pushing the boundaries musically

I still argue that Meat Loaf, to me, is very relevant. Rock music is relevant.
Perhaps rap speaks to "a significant swathe of today's audiences" (if you don't mind me borrowing the phrase ) but Bat was not recorded to speak to the significant swathe of 1977, nor was Dead Ringer hip in 81, MATLAF was not made for the trendies of 83 and Bad Attitude was not cool in 84.

I agree, and thousands will hopefully pile into the arenas here later this year to underline that No objection to your using the phrase BOOH was Jim and Meat's vision .. and whether it was planned to appeal to a mass of people, the fact is it did .. and has done to millions ever since. I don't think though that Meat has to stay recreating BOOH, or sticking to one style, not for me anyway. HCTB was a new sound .. Meat's new adventure, which I loved. With HIAH he continues to explore, and I have the classics, and know I will hear them at every concert as well as the newer stuff where he is moving forward.

I remember he said some years ago that there should be no boundaries on artistic endeavour, that you need to keep pushing, that a closed door leads nowhere. I love his excitement as he moves forward and explores new things .. and yes he still marches to his own drummer .. but no reason imo why he should not try to sell his particular, and to my mind evolving, beat, just as he sold BOOH back in '78

Caryl