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Adje · 17 Oct 2012, 04:31

Well, some of you feared it, but here comes my review of the DVD (not listened to the CD yet)

But don't be affraid. Overall I'm pleased with the DVD. Still I gotta point out some of the things that stuck with me. Some good some bad. I will start with the bad because it's better to have a good ending

My review contains two things. The production of the DVD as brought to us by ConcertOne and the concert itself. So the first part will be the production (again, I start with the stuff I disliked):

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The DVD quality screams: CHEAP CHEAP!
Wow, this is one of the worst produced concerts I've ever seen. There is so many things wrong with what ConcertOne trashed on us, that I almost have no clue where to start... but the lack of a DTS track is ridiculous!

How can you release a concert DVD, shout out that you used all sorts of HD cameras and dump a dolby stereo and DD5.1 only one the disc?! Every decent concert deserves a DTS track. It's the best sound you can provide on a DVD and ConcertOne decided to completely screw the audio fans by ignoring this. SHAME ON YOU!

Then there is the terrible picture quality. HD camera's? I bet they were, but something must have went wrong converting it to DVD. There is so many background noise I lost count. It looked like contrast issues combined with compression faults. But not on all camera angles. Just on a few which makes the video presentation of this disc look cheap. As if nobody bothered to check the video we are stuffed with rather poor quality. 8 years after Melbourne you expect to get better picture quality (which on the Melbourne DVD was outstanding).

Then there was the editing. Sjeeezzzzz, apart from occasional poor shot selections there was so much wrong with the editing it denied me to enjoy the concert experience. Although it made me chuckle when Meat Loaf anounced the quality of Justin and the shot zoomed in on Randy. The editor of this DVD didn't care, it seems.

During camera switches it was also painful clear that the end producer knows nothing of color and contrast adjustment as shots were completely incosistent and sometimes the same scene from different angles had 3 different color contrast moments. Wow talk about amateurism

Finally, I know I complained about the way the concert was lit. The lightning on the concert, I said, was poor. I take that back.I think the light could have worked if the camera guys weren't completely incompetent. I wonder if these folks ever filmed a concert before because it was a complete mess (the editing of course didn't help either)

ConcertOne, and I can't say it differently, completely messed the production of the DVD up. They present themselves as the new autority on Concerts but they have a very long way to go.

As for positive things, I couldn't find any except that some of the editing showed how energetic the show was

Bad: NO DTS
Bad: Video Quality
Bad: Editing

Score 2/10 (and I'm being generous)

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The Concert then. First the bad, but you will be happy I have more positive things about the concert than negative

What is wrong with Australia? First Melbourne and now Sydney.... Do you get the concert people out of their bodybags before putting them in seats? DEAD CROWD! Annoying as hell to see a bunch of non-moving people in the crowd. With the exception of twenty-something people. Cudos to them but the rest were a disgrace to be at a rock concert. Even when Meat tried to start them up 75% stayed unmoved. I even had the feeling that Meat made his Steinman statement (If Jim was on the front seat right now, he would be on his feet for these guys) to point out how terribly silent they were all being. Bleh.

Then there is Sits. I dislike the song and live it wasn't any better. Besides when that rap-nobody entered on the screen it was amood killer for me. I still don't get what makes that guy any good in the eyes of others. Oh well, I'll skip it.

Paradise was at times boring. The intro talk was way too long, the rave was out of place and the final talk about crying women was dragging. The song is long enough as it is and either play it as it is or make sure you have an act that is actually interacting. One of the less live version of Paradise that I've seen sofar. That said, as a Dutchman I had to chuckle on the 'Holland Tulip' remarks. Btw, the way the F*ck You's are overdubbed by the sax is too sad to be true

And finally, the echo-surrogate stuff sounded cheap and didn't fit the show. Whoever came up with that idea...

Now for the goods. I must say I was so enjoyed by the quality (or lack of it) that it almost spoiled the show to me. But luckily Meat Loaf saved the day!

So where to begin. Well I'm happy Meat decided to overdub some parts of the vocals. Meat sounds strong and entertaining!

Then there is this incredible band who do him justice in both their musical talents as their stage presence. The band is very wel choreographed and the fun, interaction and quality are impossible to miss.

Meat is energetic as well and his stage presence is fantastic. If the BAT DVD had a Meat Loaf half as good as he is on this show, Bat would have been a very good concert. That is how fantastic Meat is on this one!

R&R Dreams was incredible and the intro arrangment to Anything for Love was amazing! What a way to start that song. Two big highlights for me.

Then there was the Piano/Violin duel between Ginny and Justin. What a musical spectacle that was. Very entertaining!

So in the end the concert comes to this:

Bad: Dead Crowd (I hope they were put back in their bodybags)
Bad: Sits (I just don't like the song)
Bad: Echo effect
Bad: Paradise was dragging

Good: Dubs
Good: Meat Loaf
Good: Neverland Express
Good: Stage Presence
Good: R&R Dreams (one of the highlights for me)
Good: Intro AFL
Good: Violin vs Piano
Good: Entire show setup

Show score: 9/10

End Result: 5.5/10

If ConcertOne hadn't pissed me off so much with their lack of quality and the inexcusable fact that there is no DTS track this would have scored way higher. Perhaps I should review it again after watching it on an old mono b/w mini tv

As for the Documentary... Disc filler in my eyes. I had prefered if they had leave this (also badly produced -which isn't saying anything about the content, which you may or may not like) documentary out so they could use the free space to increase the picture and sound (DTS) quality.

But it's plain obvious to me that ConcertOne doesn't care about music fans at all. They should be ashamed of themselves and if they have any respect for the fans they donate every penny they earn to charity. Because with what they presented us they don't deserve to make money on it!

Thank You Meat loaf for a great concert. If you ever do one again I hope you hve WarnerMusic or Sony producing it. A great concert like this deserves a great product to have it displayed on

17 Oct 2012, 04:31	#531
Adje trying to be realistic Join Date: 28.09.2007 Location: Posts: 1,959	Well, some of you feared it, but here comes my review of the DVD (not listened to the CD yet) But don't be affraid. Overall I'm pleased with the DVD. Still I gotta point out some of the things that stuck with me. Some good some bad. I will start with the bad because it's better to have a good ending My review contains two things. The production of the DVD as brought to us by ConcertOne and the concert itself. So the first part will be the production (again, I start with the stuff I disliked): ------------------------------------------- The DVD quality screams: CHEAP CHEAP! Wow, this is one of the worst produced concerts I've ever seen. There is so many things wrong with what ConcertOne trashed on us, that I almost have no clue where to start... but the lack of a DTS track is ridiculous! How can you release a concert DVD, shout out that you used all sorts of HD cameras and dump a dolby stereo and DD5.1 only one the disc?! Every decent concert deserves a DTS track. It's the best sound you can provide on a DVD and ConcertOne decided to completely screw the audio fans by ignoring this. SHAME ON YOU! Then there is the terrible picture quality. HD camera's? I bet they were, but something must have went wrong converting it to DVD. There is so many background noise I lost count. It looked like contrast issues combined with compression faults. But not on all camera angles. Just on a few which makes the video presentation of this disc look cheap. As if nobody bothered to check the video we are stuffed with rather poor quality. 8 years after Melbourne you expect to get better picture quality (which on the Melbourne DVD was outstanding). Then there was the editing. Sjeeezzzzz, apart from occasional poor shot selections there was so much wrong with the editing it denied me to enjoy the concert experience. Although it made me chuckle when Meat Loaf anounced the quality of Justin and the shot zoomed in on Randy. The editor of this DVD didn't care, it seems. During camera switches it was also painful clear that the end producer knows nothing of color and contrast adjustment as shots were completely incosistent and sometimes the same scene from different angles had 3 different color contrast moments. Wow talk about amateurism Finally, I know I complained about the way the concert was lit. The lightning on the concert, I said, was poor. I take that back.I think the light could have worked if the camera guys weren't completely incompetent. I wonder if these folks ever filmed a concert before because it was a complete mess (the editing of course didn't help either) ConcertOne, and I can't say it differently, completely messed the production of the DVD up. They present themselves as the new autority on Concerts but they have a very long way to go. As for positive things, I couldn't find any except that some of the editing showed how energetic the show was Bad: NO DTS Bad: Video Quality Bad: Editing Score 2/10 (and I'm being generous) --------------------- The Concert then. First the bad, but you will be happy I have more positive things about the concert than negative What is wrong with Australia? First Melbourne and now Sydney.... Do you get the concert people out of their bodybags before putting them in seats? DEAD CROWD! Annoying as hell to see a bunch of non-moving people in the crowd. With the exception of twenty-something people. Cudos to them but the rest were a disgrace to be at a rock concert. Even when Meat tried to start them up 75% stayed unmoved. I even had the feeling that Meat made his Steinman statement (If Jim was on the front seat right now, he would be on his feet for these guys) to point out how terribly silent they were all being. Bleh. Then there is Sits. I dislike the song and live it wasn't any better. Besides when that rap-nobody entered on the screen it was amood killer for me. I still don't get what makes that guy any good in the eyes of others. Oh well, I'll skip it. Paradise was at times boring. The intro talk was way too long, the rave was out of place and the final talk about crying women was dragging. The song is long enough as it is and either play it as it is or make sure you have an act that is actually interacting. One of the less live version of Paradise that I've seen sofar. That said, as a Dutchman I had to chuckle on the 'Holland Tulip' remarks. Btw, the way the F*ck You's are overdubbed by the sax is too sad to be true And finally, the echo-surrogate stuff sounded cheap and didn't fit the show. Whoever came up with that idea... Now for the goods. I must say I was so enjoyed by the quality (or lack of it) that it almost spoiled the show to me. But luckily Meat Loaf saved the day! So where to begin. Well I'm happy Meat decided to overdub some parts of the vocals. Meat sounds strong and entertaining! Then there is this incredible band who do him justice in both their musical talents as their stage presence. The band is very wel choreographed and the fun, interaction and quality are impossible to miss. Meat is energetic as well and his stage presence is fantastic. If the BAT DVD had a Meat Loaf half as good as he is on this show, Bat would have been a very good concert. That is how fantastic Meat is on this one! R&R Dreams was incredible and the intro arrangment to Anything for Love was amazing! What a way to start that song. Two big highlights for me. Then there was the Piano/Violin duel between Ginny and Justin. What a musical spectacle that was. Very entertaining! So in the end the concert comes to this: Bad: Dead Crowd (I hope they were put back in their bodybags) Bad: Sits (I just don't like the song) Bad: Echo effect Bad: Paradise was dragging Good: Dubs Good: Meat Loaf Good: Neverland Express Good: Stage Presence Good: R&R Dreams (one of the highlights for me) Good: Intro AFL Good: Violin vs Piano Good: Entire show setup Show score: 9/10 End Result: 5.5/10 If ConcertOne hadn't pissed me off so much with their lack of quality and the inexcusable fact that there is no DTS track this would have scored way higher. Perhaps I should review it again after watching it on an old mono b/w mini tv As for the Documentary... Disc filler in my eyes. I had prefered if they had leave this (also badly produced -which isn't saying anything about the content, which you may or may not like) documentary out so they could use the free space to increase the picture and sound (DTS) quality. But it's plain obvious to me that ConcertOne doesn't care about music fans at all. They should be ashamed of themselves and if they have any respect for the fans they donate every penny they earn to charity. Because with what they presented us they don't deserve to make money on it! Thank You Meat loaf for a great concert. If you ever do one again I hope you hve WarnerMusic or Sony producing it. A great concert like this deserves a great product to have it displayed on