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Originally Posted by White of High
"I don't mind as long as it's Meat" - this one is foolish.
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Indeed? Well you are damn rude.
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I'm not a fan who likes everything what my idol does.
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First I do not set Meat on a pedestal, nor see him as an idol. It's patently obvious you do not do this either, so saying that you don't like everything that your idol does is meaningless, unless you are referring to me, in which case you are wrong. I see him as a gifted and great performer, and a good human being I like a lot, and consider a friend.
I am entitled to express my view based on my experience ie that in over 35 years Meat has not disappointed me, and that FOR ME his latest two albums are great, that I love his musical direction and Paul's production. I speak for me, and I love what he is now doing. Did I love BOOH? Yes. Were Steinman's songs brilliant? Yes. He wrote some of the best songs and saw in Meat the perfect voice and passion to engage the world with them. Does that mean I cannot enjoy Meat singing other songs written by other gifted composers? No. Do I trust Meat to be able to find songs I love to hear him sing which have been written by other composers? Yes.
My point was I would not say "No Steinman", nor would I say "Only Steinman". I am saying I trust Meat to find songs which I will love. If he has a Steinman penned song that fits with the album as a whole, then great. But the most important thing from my view is that he delivers an album where the songs fit his vision for the whole, and that each has a fit with the one preceding it and coming after. I love Meat's style of delivering a cohesive whole rather than a collection of songs
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There are a lot of Meat songs what I don't like and listen at all. There are a lot of songs on the last 2 albums what I cannot bear so I really mind what Meat does...
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Well you have made that very obvious on this forum time and again. However, I do not have to feel the same way .. thank God. I suppose I am the lucky one, as there is nothing on Meat's albums I cannot bear, and my continued enjoyment of his work is not dependent on one composer or one style.
However, to assert that the musical taste and enjoyment of anyone who does not share yours is foolish is as impertinent as it is ignorant. I do not treat Meat as a God. However, whilst I respect Steinman for all he has given the world musically (something Meat demands on the board which bears his name btw), I do not see him as a God either. And it is Meat's voice, Meat's passion, Meat's performance that I look forward to .. so
I do not mind who writes the songs as long as Meat delivers them.
(And I have already responded elsewhere to a question on the lines of even if they're rubbish songs .. Meat does not choose songs that he cannot deliver and make special for me)