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Originally Posted by Wario
That being said I highly suggest watching the current season. I wonder if anyone else's opinions have changed about the show since this epic season aired.
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Not really. I only watched it because Meat was in it, and haven't watched it since. The US Celebrity Apprentice isn't aired on any channel I get, and I wouldn't pay to see it without Meat. I wouldn't describe it as "epic"
.. but I did enjoy watching Meat throw himself into the process, and also enjoyed seeing something of his leadership and creative thinking in action, and that passion we see in his stage performances used to achieve challenging tasks.
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Originally Posted by AndrewG
But he was in the final anyway wasn't he? According to Wario.
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Yes, he was selected to be in the team of one of the finalists, rather than being a finalist himself.
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In comparison to the UK one I find it difficult to watch and stay interested in. It is edited in a strange way, similar to most American TV things. Too much repetition coming back from adverts etc. Don't think it made any difference to Meat's reputation here in the UK or Europe.
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Lord Sugar has said he'll never do a Celebrity version again .. and the two we have had were both for Comic Relief, and aired over just two days each. I've watched part of 2 episodes of Apprentice USA .. agree it's shocking. Orchestrated/edited for ratings, rewards and bizarre punishment, too much repetition caused by their frequent advert breaks and lack of faith in their audience's short term memory (doubly annoying when it's shown on BBC here!), and a business ethos I can't abide.
As to Meat's reputation .. I think there will be UK fans who happened to know he was in it, watched and were impressed .. but agree that many fans probably never even realised he was on it. It wouldn't have aired here anywhere near the time, even if it's aired since on a channel I don't see.
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Originally Posted by Evil Ernie
I was embarrassed that ML was on that show.
But hey, to each their own...
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I wasn't. He did it to raise money for a wonderful organisation, and achieved that goal, whilst learning a lot along the way .. the latter being something I cannot remember any of the other contestants saying with any conviction.
I felt for Meat and his embarrassment on ONE brief occasion when he was pushed beyond the limit, and his actions were edited for effect. But throughout the series he showed himself to be thoughtful, creative, a good and effective leader both in terms of managing and motivating, persuasive and interpersonally skilled, a passionate and caring man, and one who used the process to learn about himself and develop as a person. All wholly admirable imo, and far, far outweighing one momentary loss of control which he regretted .. but one he learned .. something his protagonist in that brief moment seems to have signally failed to do!
I think in retrospect it was well worth him doing. The Painted Turtle benefited financially, Meat did in terms of learning, and I don't think it damaged his reputation at all. The B incident will be one that a few will always use as a stick to beat him with .. but these are people who would find SOMEthing to use anyway. Most fans I meet who saw him on CA have nothing but admiration for his work throughout the series, his commitment to the charity, his passion and his emotion.
Caryl