[CarylB]

Originally Posted by renegadeangel

Judging by the fact that Steinman's involvement is growing and more of his songs are being added, it seems that Meat is looking forward to more of Jim's contributions, without demeaning anyone elses. If it was a mis-type wouldn't it have been corrected by now?

I think you will find it has been removed. Meat was at full throttle replying to a very rude and irritating individual .. I think it is more than possible that the "9" was a miss-key. Steinman's contribution has increased to 6 for sure. That it is still growing and likely to be more is an assumption. What I refer to as demeaning is the continual suggestion that other composers are lesser writers.

Caryl why do you seem to be so intent on wanting Meat to go with other writers? No hard feelings meant here but I am just curious.

I think I have explained several times why I enjoy the other writers Meat uses. I have NEVER said anything against him working with Steinman .. simply that I like the songs from the others too, and that personally .. and musical taste is allowed to be personal .. I am just as excited to hear these other songs he has selected. I am not wanting Meat to "go with other writers" instead of Steinman .. just that I want to hear their songs as well. I do not understand why this seems to be seen as an either/or.

You perhaps had not read my reply to Paul Richardson when you were writing this. To explain in more detail why I like these other writers AS WELL seems likely to be construed by some as somehow "knocking" Steinman .. and I do not wish that. However, I will say that the metaphors in for eg All Of Me made an immediate and just as powerful connection with me as any I have heard. Others write songs for Meat which he delivers and which give me just as much pleasure as many Steinman songs. That is not suggesting Steinman is "a lesser writer", not taking anything from his undoubted brilliance or so many wonderful songs he has penned. I simply also love many songs written by others, so I am looking forward to them as well, and so I am not sitting here praying that Meat will jettison these.

My opinion is that Meat bring something to Steinman's songs that no one else can. FOR CRYING OUT LOUD is by far one of the most beautiful songs ever released.

I'd agree wholeheartedly that Meat brings something to Steinman's somngs that no-one else can. Have always said this. Yes, FCOL is one of the most beautiful love songs written by Steinman and sung by Meat. In my view Did I Say That? is also one of the best.

I have no way of knowing what Steinman songs Meat will record on the new album. I have no way of knowing if they're any good or not. But I think it would be fair to say that the odds are that this will be an incredible record.

I'd agree. I just don't happen to think that it will somehow be a lesser album by including the songs that Meat has said other writers that I respect have given him and will be on the album as well.

I do not consider CHSIB, HCTB or HIAH lesser albums either. My taste, my view, my pleasure.