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lorenzoduke · 10 Jan 2015, 12:01

nightinr - I just don't think Steinman enjoys being in front of the cameras these days. I don't think his lack of participation in the doc reflects a lack of participation on the album. Talk to the guy on FB, I have, he's engaging, witty and the singular man he's always appeared to be.

I would have been absolutely shocked to see Patti, I think she's essentially being airbrushed from ML history now despite having been the most recognisable face and voice to accompany him in the last 20 years if not his entire career, as far as concert-going fans are concerned. I have far too much respect for Meat as a performer and a man to ever say he was carried by anyone, but having attended the two Amsterdam gigs he considered the worst of his entire career and a Manchester show in 2003 where he was clearly struggling fresh off heart surgery only one time did I see him truly flounder and it was the one with Aspen. If Meat has ever leaned on anyone on stage to help get him through a rough night it is Patricia Russo, he knows it, I know it and it is very saddening to me that as a gracious and humble man, which he most certainly is, he doesn't feel the need to see her contribution to his career recognised in this kind of retrospective. Marion Raven and Lorraine Crosby were mentioned, yet she wasn't. It's complete bullshit, but to be expected. The fans who have been buying tickets for the last two decades know what the score is.

I would assume the 'Steinman going off with someone else' thing referred to Bonnie. I can't think who else it could mean, and a clip of Bonnie discussing Total Eclipse immediately followed.

Nicely produced doc that mostly covered all bases. Didn't add much new, but then we're the diehards, we know most of what there is out there. Surprised to see Kasim and he appeared to be damning with faint praise a little to me to be perfectly honest, but maybe that's just me. Nice interviews with Meat and good to see some of his hometown compadres. Glad the forthcoming album got a plug although it would have had far more impact if we'd had, say, a 30 second clip of the lead single

10 Jan 2015, 12:01	#70
lorenzoduke Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.07.2006 Posts: 1,269	nightinr - I just don't think Steinman enjoys being in front of the cameras these days. I don't think his lack of participation in the doc reflects a lack of participation on the album. Talk to the guy on FB, I have, he's engaging, witty and the singular man he's always appeared to be. I would have been absolutely shocked to see Patti, I think she's essentially being airbrushed from ML history now despite having been the most recognisable face and voice to accompany him in the last 20 years if not his entire career, as far as concert-going fans are concerned. I have far too much respect for Meat as a performer and a man to ever say he was carried by anyone, but having attended the two Amsterdam gigs he considered the worst of his entire career and a Manchester show in 2003 where he was clearly struggling fresh off heart surgery only one time did I see him truly flounder and it was the one with Aspen. If Meat has ever leaned on anyone on stage to help get him through a rough night it is Patricia Russo, he knows it, I know it and it is very saddening to me that as a gracious and humble man, which he most certainly is, he doesn't feel the need to see her contribution to his career recognised in this kind of retrospective. Marion Raven and Lorraine Crosby were mentioned, yet she wasn't. It's complete bullshit, but to be expected. The fans who have been buying tickets for the last two decades know what the score is. I would assume the 'Steinman going off with someone else' thing referred to Bonnie. I can't think who else it could mean, and a clip of Bonnie discussing Total Eclipse immediately followed. Nicely produced doc that mostly covered all bases. Didn't add much new, but then we're the diehards, we know most of what there is out there. Surprised to see Kasim and he appeared to be damning with faint praise a little to me to be perfectly honest, but maybe that's just me. Nice interviews with Meat and good to see some of his hometown compadres. Glad the forthcoming album got a plug although it would have had far more impact if we'd had, say, a 30 second clip of the lead single Last edited by lorenzoduke; 10 Jan 2015 at 12:11.