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Old 14 Jun 2015, 23:41   #6218
Adje
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I guess we won't come closer on our siagreement here

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There was much more than effects that interested me here. Seriously if it's ONLY effects I get bored. Age of Ultron is perfect example.

10 Things JW did right imo:

1. It didn't make women seem completely useless.
Because she shot a gun and used a flare to guide the T-Rex? (worst scene of the movie perhaps. Not just the unnecersary slomo- which didn't add anything to the suspense-, but outrunning the T-Rex on high heels)... The fact that she didn't scream with every dino situation didn't make her useless but also not a strong character. The fact that she made all the wrong decisions except when she wanted her nephews rescued and almost begged Pratt's character for help, didn't make her strong nor loveable

2. Having to wait a little while to see a proper dino in the film, just like JP. Instead the JP theme is effectively used to show the initial areas of the park (just like JP did with the island shots) rather than the awesomeness of a dino.
I found several shots, as mentioned earlier, the better part of the movie. But very early we got to see proper dinos. We saw how one man controlled 4 raptors the way Dolphins are controlled in Sea World. This was not just very unbelievable but a giveaway for the nonsense that would be part of the plot

3. The scale of the park is immense and much better thought out / explored than the first film. There is a hotel, areas where people can walk, merch areas, lines where people have to queue for rides. Ride operators who are a bit clueless because usually everything works perfectly, just like in a real park. It was very effective I thought.
Yes, exactly like Jaws 3D. It helped to expand the mayhem but not in making the movie on itself, or the storyline any good

4. The actors seemed to be in danger during the film. Especially the kids in the gyro-sphere. This was similar to the T Rex attack at night in the original film. Compare this to useless Age of Ultron where it seemed like a play with a bunch of super heroes showing up with their awesome life styles and not having anything really to worry about even when Ironman behaves like an imbicillic Dr. Frankenstein and just gets away with it. Mad Max is another great example of a recent movie where actors are in real danger and helps to make you feel more involved and not asleep like Age of Ultron did to me.
The kids in the gyrosphere was the only scene were I felt they were in danger. Of course that first team was in danger without their lethal weapons. But it was obvious from the beginning they would end up dead and it was not well directed either. The fact that Pratt had to make a semi funny line, each time something remotely intense seemed to happen didn't help either and in my opinion again to blame on poor directing

5. Several dino attack scenes effectively did not have any music. This worked well to create more suspense in the original T Rex attack in JP and was a great contrast when there is a lot of score used.
Again I found most of the dino attack scenes bad directed and never suspensefull because the way it was edited. There were no surprises (with the ecxeption of one scene

6. The music was excellent and original themes were used well. Compare this to piece of shit Man of Steel resurrection which does not contain John Williams' leidmotif and is just utter crap, considering it is Hans Zimmer, it's really bad. Just drums and 5 piano notes. Not to mention everything else wrong with that utter horrendous film.
Score was epic. Especially the re-use

7. Monster vs Monster fight. Kept to the point and nothing idiotic and long drawn out like in Godzilla (how did THAT director get a Star Wars gig?)
You didn't find the raptor sequenses or the T-rex matching up with the raptor -even both having an understanding- idiotic. Ok, we don't share the same opinion here

8. Superb references to first film when remains of original park were shown, merch, tools, cars even to the exact location where Grant, Sattler, Malcolm where first overwhelmed when seeing a brachiosaurus. This time the film leads seeing a dying one because of a real monster the lab cooked up. Nice reverse of plot element I thought.
The scene with the dying brachiosaurus was good. The reason (Bryce's character 180degrees turn on her personal view a bit cheesy. Then again, no character development forces these kinds of emotional turnarounds

9. Chris Pratt & Bryce Dallas Howard. Good leads and perfect for this film. They don't come with the baggage that some actors have. There was about as much background story to both them as there was to original leads in JP in my opinion. Only critique I have when Claire asks Owen what they should do at end of the film it would have been more fitting to have answered with "we evolve"
Funny, they are my main issue. What are their back stories? They were as 2 dimensional as any character in a syfy movie. I found all of the characters poorly written and those two were no exception imo. Just after I saw the movie I toold my wife how bad they acted. Eventually I realised that they probabbly did the best they could with the characters that were handed out to them in the script

10. Final roar of T Rex on top of helipad before movie turns to black instantly. Great ending.
lol. I give you that one

As I said, we disagree quite a bit and for me this was one of the worse blockbusters because of the very poor script, poor directing and lack of character development (not too mention the incredible aweful dialogue)
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