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Originally Posted by nightinr
Not sure if that is aimed at me or Boston?! If it is aimed towards me sorry for any offence I am just trying to stick up for the "silent majority". Or silent 49%...lets not get into the "majority" debate again!
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Of course it is aimed at Boston. Jeez.
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Originally Posted by Julie in the rv mirror
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Now there is a fair and balanced "media organisation".
It has totally changed my opinion....not. Let me know when a nation can pay down its deficit, pay for social care, pay for infrastructure solely based on feelings rather than via work, taxes and trade, then I might start listening to them.
People should judge presidents on their results rather than based on judgements by news/media organisations.
I was impressed when Obama won. Seemed a much better choice than McCain (who seems a lot less balanced or stable than Trump I would say). However I'm not sure what the African Americans can really praise Obama for on the large scale after all this time. Hence perhaps many lacked enthusiasm to come out to the voting booths this time round, especially for Hillary.
African American Labor participation has totally not improved in 8 years.
I guess one can perhaps be happy Obama at least didn't make things a whole lot worse.
Obamacare? Meh maybe it works for some. I understand the concept and idea and it sounded great. But from what I understand the premiums and deductibles are so high for many people, there seems little point to having it at all. It's like those dodgy paying insurance on your mortgage scams, which when you qualify for using it (when unable to work through injury or whatever) only lasts for two years and when you look at the premiums you paid is less than the value you can ever take out.
Overall American healthcare (if you can pay for it at least) seems far better than that in most other countries. Far more advanced procedures such as proton therapy for children with almost incurable brain diseases happen over there far more than here in the UK from what I know.
In the UK we are now having a lot of problems with the NHS with regards to waiting lists (I don't get how Jeremy Hunt just stays in that position for years - must be me).
If I phone my doctor I will be lucky to be able to see her still this month or early Feb. If people think this is totally unrelated to immigration (whether directly or indirectly) then I think they are really wrong. You cannot continue to have 330K+ extra people pouring in, most having salaries in the tax free allowance range and not build extra hospitals, schools or doctor's practitioners. I really think people fail to realise that the net immigration figures alone are at the moment higher than the average natural increase of population we enjoyed between 1900 and 2000. Over 100 years we are talking 33 million if these figures do not change. I actually do not think there is a respectable UK political party out there taking this seriously at all, not even UKIP. Let me be clear: I am not against immigrants at all, I am against the immigration policies. The EU freedom of movement seems blackmail for allowing free trade. Large corporations can enjoy cheap labor at a cost of favouring Eastern Europeans over Brits in many sectors of employment now (I have seen this with my own eyes if people think I am basing this on the Daily Mail). I am a foreign born Brit so somewhat of an immigrant myself. I just think ultimately it is best to have a very very low net immigration figure, close to zero if possible. This is the best for other countries where people are emigrating from (no-one ever thinks about that it seems) and best for the UK. I do of course understand all the reasons why people want to come to the UK. But I think ghetto forming is very, very bad. Sweden has problems with this now, Bradford in the UK has problems, areas in London and Luton too. Not integration in my opinion and past government policies have really failed these areas and it does not seem to be changing. Ironically it is usually in these areas where people always vote for more socialist / liberal policies - make the government give more free stuff- rather than structural changes that could lead to more employment or opportunity for all.
In any case Trump is elected president of the USA, here in the UK we will have a conservative government until at least 2020 and probably well beyond going by what the alternatives are offering (mostly backwards retake the EU referendum ideas etc). People can keep on crying and talking their own countries down because they disagree with past decisions or past votes and elections. Ultimately I think that is a recipe for failure for a country and for the people themselves regardless of who is president, political leader or party and just trying to make the best of things.
Michelle Obama stating "there is now no hope" was totally shameful in my opinion. Disgusting remark.
Inauguration is almost here. The time is right (for me at least) to move on and just live life. All one can do is vote for who and what they think is best. Beyond that hindsight debates such as this, although interesting are definitely not the best use of one's time.