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Old 23 May 2017, 16:04   #10
AndrewG
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Originally Posted by CarylB View Post
Andrew, people falter, some things get cancelled. My point was that Manchester does not fall to its knees in response to these acts of wanton violence, any more than London, or this country. We didn't during the decades of IRA terror . we don't now. We ARE realists, and we accept there is wickedness in the world, we cannot prevent it all, but we don't stay locked in our homes but get on with the day.

It IS the job of those in the public eye, politicians or not, to remind us that we are strong, to encourage us to keep going. It is not anyone's "task" to "to prevent these situations to arise in the first place." All they can do is do their best to prevent as many as they can, to learn from each event, and to do their best to find ways of trying as best they can to prevent the same thing happening again. There is no realistic way they can ever make our lives completely safe from any and every attack by the deranged with an axe to grind. They can express their horror and sadness when it does, and remind us that we are stronger, we do not give in, and that while their despicable acts may cruelly hurt many, they will not prevail over us.
I disagree.
When the Luftwaffe attacked Britain we didn't just keep calm and carry on.

The time is coming to lock and load. I honestly think that. The frequency of the attacks is increasing, not decreasing, certainly across western Europe. The statistics clearly show us that.

This is not business as usual when nails are driven into eye sockets of 11 year old girls. The line is being crossed wherever this ISIS scum resides, here or in the Middle East.

I simply disagree with politicians who are wanting us to go on with our daily lives when lives are being ripped apart around us because of policies that they are obviously invoking or not invoking.
To simply say we should live with it is unacceptable. If they had said that during the second world war would have been unacceptable too.

I do not hold Tony Blair solely responsible for the exponential trouble that has been caused because of the Iraq war but to still give him air time and that he doesn't know when to shut his gob is incredible. One almost would want to invoke the exact opposite of any policies that he thinks we should have considering the result of what happened 14-15 years ago. Our continued dealings in weapons of mass destruction that we sell to Saudi Arabia is shameful too.
Just a few examples of what I think ought to be discussed by politicians instead of the keep calm and carry on stuff.

But anyway sorry to deviate....

I hope those families with kids and relatives going to the show that were affected will have closure on their loved ones by now.
Many must have been going through absolute agony during the last 15 hours.

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