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CarylB · 11 Dec 2003, 16:14

David, you posted twice, and some of what you said in your first post appeared to go wider than a reply to Edit.

I have never "terrorised" anybody in this forum, although I have disagreed with people, and even suggested that Meat might get fed up visiting a board where he was constantly being sniped at .. as indeed proved the case.

As to your assertion that "some that even feel the need to point out that Meat Loaf would agree with their points of view as well (at every turn).", I do not know to whom you refer .. if it is me, it is a gross exaggeration., and I don't believe I have seen anyone do this.

As to this thread, I started it because I did not think anyone deserved to have the repeated name calling by a few people that I spoke of in my opening post. As far as "patronising" or "holier than thou" .. I'd just say I would find to be called "missy" a good example of the former, but as Sin and others have repeatedly said, that's about style and interpretation.

But most people would take offence at being called a "demented old bag" or being accused of "wilfully deceiving Meat Loaf fans". There's little room for interpretation there, and that was why I started the thread. I am unaware of any previous discussions in which what you describe as Meat Loaf Type 2 fans "are always considered to be victims'". Adding different examples of people's style of reply, or attacking them, does not take away from the central issue that most people seem to be agreed upon .. name calling is rude and should not be acceptable.

ADDITION:
I drafted my reply and posted it without refreshing the page as I was about to leave to go to last night's superb Meat Loaf concert, so didn't see the last five paras added in your edit David.

I've always tried to express myself clearly, and you have most certainly made your feelings clear, even if some of your assertions are completely false (I have never, let alone "repeatedly", called you "boy" for eg, nor ever stated on this board that my "intelligence is higher than most") and others wild exaggerations. I write using the English I was taught. I have no idea what makes a Latin term "goofy"; those I have on odd occasions used (and not "constantly") are pretty common in the UK, and this is the UK forum; one was the motto of our Royal family, seemed appropriate and would not be unfamiliar to many British people.

My Rhet Butler line was added because so often when I wrote something positive about Meat, one or two people would come in accusing me of being a sycophant .. Yes, it was intended to have an impact .. why write if that is not the case? .. but I used it pre-emptively and not to "re-inforce a superiority issue somewhere". You say that is why you add them to posts here and there. We are all now clear about your motivation and intentions, but yours are not mine.

No further comment on the rest.

11 Dec 2003, 16:14	#129
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	David, you posted twice, and some of what you said in your first post appeared to go wider than a reply to Edit. I have never "terrorised" anybody in this forum, although I have disagreed with people, and even suggested that Meat might get fed up visiting a board where he was constantly being sniped at .. as indeed proved the case. As to your assertion that "some that even feel the need to point out that Meat Loaf would agree with their points of view as well (at every turn).", I do not know to whom you refer .. if it is me, it is a gross exaggeration., and I don't believe I have seen anyone do this. As to this thread, I started it because I did not think anyone deserved to have the repeated name calling by a few people that I spoke of in my opening post. As far as "patronising" or "holier than thou" .. I'd just say I would find to be called "missy" a good example of the former, but as Sin and others have repeatedly said, that's about style and interpretation. But most people would take offence at being called a "demented old bag" or being accused of "wilfully deceiving Meat Loaf fans". There's little room for interpretation there, and that was why I started the thread. I am unaware of any previous discussions in which what you describe as Meat Loaf Type 2 fans "are always considered to be victims'". Adding different examples of people's style of reply, or attacking them, does not take away from the central issue that most people seem to be agreed upon .. name calling is rude and should not be acceptable. ADDITION: I drafted my reply and posted it without refreshing the page as I was about to leave to go to last night's superb Meat Loaf concert, so didn't see the last five paras added in your edit David. I've always tried to express myself clearly, and you have most certainly made your feelings clear, even if some of your assertions are completely false (I have never, let alone "repeatedly", called you "boy" for eg, nor ever stated on this board that my "intelligence is higher than most") and others wild exaggerations. I write using the English I was taught. I have no idea what makes a Latin term "goofy"; those I have on odd occasions used (and not "constantly") are pretty common in the UK, and this is the UK forum; one was the motto of our Royal family, seemed appropriate and would not be unfamiliar to many British people. My Rhet Butler line was added because so often when I wrote something positive about Meat, one or two people would come in accusing me of being a sycophant .. Yes, it was intended to have an impact .. why write if that is not the case? .. but I used it pre-emptively and not to "re-inforce a superiority issue somewhere". You say that is why you add them to posts here and there. We are all now clear about your motivation and intentions, but yours are not mine. No further comment on the rest.