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original sin · 01 Mar 2004, 17:36

Chris
I can quite understand how you feel and have been feeling pretty much the same myself. I like, respect and admire you, you have given me strength and support made me laugh and listened to me cry, I thank you and sincerely hope we can keep in touch.

I cannot claim to have the long history here that you have, but I first started looking at this site in the summer of ’02, however at that time I did not feel comfortable enough to play a part.
Then at the beginning of last year I jumped in with both feet and I liked what I had found, a great supportive group who were bound by the threads of an artist with a wonderfully great talent, an artist who felt comfortable in our presence, who shared news, thoughts and feelings. It was truly fantastic.
Then the swipes and the snipes started, and anyone who wanted to preserve what we had and say that they didn’t agree with this, had to hold their piece or be accused of asskissing, obsessiveness or trouble making.

So instead of being nipped in the bud it continued and eventually the Man who had gathered us all together became so hurt and upset with what was allowed to continue, that he no longer feels he can come here as he used to.

I have never seen the need for flagrant unnecessary criticism of Meat or anyone. I don’t think it has a place in this type of community and if it does then it is imo not one that should appear to be supported by other fans and members. In my book standing by and letting it go on, lets it happen and rather than unspoken condemnation of it, it can be taken as support. This is why I for one have spoken out when I have felt the need.

I have made so many good friends far and wide through these boards and would miss them all terribly, but know there are other ways of keeping in touch, which we all do.
I too have considered leaving because I no longer have the stomach for the continual picking apart of Meat and every effort I make being dismissed. Last night I too thought long and hard about continuing here and for now I have reached the decision that while I can be a voice and stand up and be counted I shall continue to do so.

01 Mar 2004, 17:36	#6
original sin Sinner Join Date: 15.04.2003 Location: cyber space Posts: 2,457	Chris I can quite understand how you feel and have been feeling pretty much the same myself. I like, respect and admire you, you have given me strength and support made me laugh and listened to me cry, I thank you and sincerely hope we can keep in touch. I cannot claim to have the long history here that you have, but I first started looking at this site in the summer of ’02, however at that time I did not feel comfortable enough to play a part. Then at the beginning of last year I jumped in with both feet and I liked what I had found, a great supportive group who were bound by the threads of an artist with a wonderfully great talent, an artist who felt comfortable in our presence, who shared news, thoughts and feelings. It was truly fantastic. Then the swipes and the snipes started, and anyone who wanted to preserve what we had and say that they didn’t agree with this, had to hold their piece or be accused of asskissing, obsessiveness or trouble making. So instead of being nipped in the bud it continued and eventually the Man who had gathered us all together became so hurt and upset with what was allowed to continue, that he no longer feels he can come here as he used to. I have never seen the need for flagrant unnecessary criticism of Meat or anyone. I don’t think it has a place in this type of community and if it does then it is imo not one that should appear to be supported by other fans and members. In my book standing by and letting it go on, lets it happen and rather than unspoken condemnation of it, it can be taken as support. This is why I for one have spoken out when I have felt the need. I have made so many good friends far and wide through these boards and would miss them all terribly, but know there are other ways of keeping in touch, which we all do. I too have considered leaving because I no longer have the stomach for the continual picking apart of Meat and every effort I make being dismissed. Last night I too thought long and hard about continuing here and for now I have reached the decision that while I can be a voice and stand up and be counted I shall continue to do so.