New album???

White of High · 01 Dec 2006, 17:03

From an interview:
(http://www.excal.on.ca/index.php?opt...=2681&Itemid=2)

When asked about a fourth Bat out of Hell, Meat Loaf laughed and said simply, "I'm not gonna say no just cause there's been too much communication going on since August," and that "if we do it, it won't be called Bat Out of Hell Four."

Well... Meat said there is not Bat4 but from this sentence looks like Meat has a contract for more albums. What will be that and what will be the title?

djfierce · 01 Dec 2006, 17:08

not sure he'll have a contract but maybe a loose oral agreement.
as to the title, that's like trying to predict tomorrows lottery numbers

so i wont even try
I think there is too much stuff flying around at the moment for Meat to be definate about anything

Kev · 01 Dec 2006, 17:26

Bat out of Hell 4 - Here we go again!

Bat Out Of Hell 4 - This Time It's Really Over...

Let's get the ball rolling again :P

**RadioMaster** · 01 Dec 2006, 17:26

there are many interviews (+jims blog) where Meat and Jim said something about another album, things like
- A bat anthology with 3-5 (number variies) new songs is planned + some rare demo tracks of the original bat songs.
- Meat sees the peak of his career still comming in the future
- Jim mentioned several songs he plans to record with Meat.

The interesting thing is that if you go through these interviews chronological, then you´ll see that the whole thing gets more and more specific and clear.

White of High · 01 Dec 2006, 17:44

I thought...

Dead Ringer 2?

Mick Loaf · 01 Dec 2006, 17:50

Still Couldn't Have Said It Better Again

Then we could have people typing SCHSIBA
after everything that Meat types!

**RadioMaster** · 01 Dec 2006, 17:58

TAFKABOOHFWSJBJSTT

(the album formerly known as bat out of hell four with songs just by Jim Steinman this time)

White of High · 01 Dec 2006, 17:59

With Jim Steinman songs? :)
I don't think so...

**RadioMaster** · 01 Dec 2006, 18:02

why not? hey it´s still allowd to dream...

and to get back to the facts, both Meat and Jim said they would like to do another album together (if it´s now 3-5 songs or a whole album, thet´s still unclear) but I see no reason for other writers is everything goes right this time.

PS:
but at the moment I´m just enjoying what I got with bat3!

White of High · 01 Dec 2006, 18:05

Which songs by Jim?
(Because Dream Engine seems not overrated

What Part Of My Body Hurts The Most
We're Still Children We Once Were
Graveyarsd Shift
Not Allowed To Love
Braver Then We Are
Death Is Such An Odd Thing

????????????

DazLoaf01 · 01 Dec 2006, 18:24

BAT OUT OF HELL: THE PREQUEL AT BAT

**RadioMaster** · 01 Dec 2006, 19:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by White of High

Which songs by Jim?
(Because Dream Engine seems not overrated

What Part Of My Body Hurts The Most
We're Still Children We Once Were
Graveyarsd Shift
Not Allowed To Love
Braver Then We Are
Death Is Such An Odd Thing

????????????

go to www.jimsteinman.blogspot.com, and look through the posts. He´s talking about what songs he´d like to record together with Meat.

It´s a while back that I read it, but I remember that he wrote something about a song called "conclusions and climaxes", though I´d love to hear him do Braver than we are.

mszee · 01 Dec 2006, 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by White of High

Which songs by Jim?
(Because Dream Engine seems not overrated

What Part Of My Body Hurts The Most
We're Still Children We Once Were
Graveyarsd Shift
Not Allowed To Love
Braver Then We Are
Death Is Such An Odd Thing

????????????

For anybody who DOES know Dream Engine...which not many do...it IS grossly overrated...sorry...

DazLoaf01 · 01 Dec 2006, 19:44

I've got a sneaky suspicion a lot of the songs Jim mentioned on his blog may not be "complete" songs he has ready. Probably wrong, but who knows lol. Meat did write on the forum over at .net that if Jim were to have produced Bat3, it would have contained more 'cover' songs than it does now - that post was removed though. Meat mentioned on this site several years ago that Jim had written a song for him that was "twice the length" of Anything For Love(!!!). It's probably still here if you search.

clpmss · 01 Dec 2006, 19:52

My opinion is that from the song Paradise
First base is Bat I
Second base is Bat II
Third base is Bat III
Home plate is the squeeze play

Meat just might "SQUEEZE PLAY" another album out.

White of High · 01 Dec 2006, 20:08

Rob Evan can sing very well... but he learnt to sing, he is not the nature's diamond. Dream Engine is not a good concept.

I am interested in the full length Paradise!!!

mszee · 01 Dec 2006, 23:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by White of High

Rob Evan can sing very well... but he learnt to sing, he is not the nature's diamond. Dream Engine is not a good concept.

I am interested in the full length Paradise!!!

EXACTLY...very very trained man...no heart and/or soul...and he ain't that great anyway...

meatloaf-unofficial · 02 Dec 2006, 09:19

I rekon he might do another album after this and then call it a day - no offence, but I think it is time for him to relax after all this touring etc..

**RadioMaster** · 02 Dec 2006, 10:22

It´s interesting that Jim is always working with singers who got a similar voice to him. ´Speaking of Rory Dodd on Bad for Good and now Rob Evan on Dream Engine.

Pudding · 02 Dec 2006, 11:36

I'll just touch on some points quickly
The Dream Engine, great idea, great potential, has to deliver any goods. The wrong person is driving the train IMO (Steve Rinkoff)
Rob Evan, great singer for Broadway, no good for rock songs and he's not marketable
I believe Meat and Jim do want to work together, but it won't happen in 2007 though
I don't think there'll be an actual album, but more an EP (5 songs maybe)

It's all anyone's guess, I personally would like to see a 'Conclusions & Climaxes' project, but I'll not hold my breath.

Pud

DanielF · 02 Dec 2006, 12:53

I think it only depends on Meat.
If Jim really wants do a new album he'll have to work with Meat again. The Dream Engine album will never happen. Rob Evan is a great singer indeed, but he's not a rock singer. In my opinion The Dream Engine is not even a real band. lol
Who should buy this album? Even many Meat Fans don't know what The Dream Engine is an Jim alone is just too unkown to have the success he deserves.
Maybe both will "bite the bullet" and come together to make an album just for us fans. But I think that's only a dream lol

Rock on
Daniel

Kev · 02 Dec 2006, 13:09

Sadly I agree, they might have a minor hit, but it would do nothing much. Certainly not outside whichever state in the USA that the main singer is known in.

I'd still like to hear all their stuff Meat hasn't already done.

mszee · 02 Dec 2006, 13:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by icwuke

Sadly I agree, they might have a minor hit, but it would do nothing much. Certainly not outside whichever state in the USA that the main singer is known in.

I'd still like to hear all their stuff Meat hasn't already done.

The only people who know main singer - if we are talking about Rob Evan - are those who saw him on Broadway in Jekill and Hyde. The fate of the strictly theater/Broadway artist in America is that people might ask him/her for an autograph right outside the theater right after the performance. Once that performer turns the corner...he fades into obscurity.

Dream Engine consists of people with very impressive biographies - if you bother to read about them. If you don't...the only member of Dream Engine that comes as close to fame as possible is actually Elaine Caswell...and not really because she was a member of Pandora's Box...but because she worked as a backup singer with a lot of famous artists.

And yes...she still sings It's All Coming Back to Me Now...

Dream Engine album...if it will ever be made...don't think will become anything close to any kind of hit...and yes...would be great to see Meat and Jim work together...

DazLoaf01 · 02 Dec 2006, 14:45

I think judging from the updates on the DE site, that the album would contain far more remakes of familiar songs than new material too.

mszee · 02 Dec 2006, 15:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by DazLoaf01

I think judging from the updates on the DE site, that the album would contain far more remakes of familiar songs than new material too.

Don't think there is a hell of a lot of new material going around...

01 Dec 2006, 17:03	#1
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	New album??? From an interview: (http://www.excal.on.ca/index.php?opt...=2681&Itemid=2) When asked about a fourth Bat out of Hell, Meat Loaf laughed and said simply, "I'm not gonna say no just cause there's been too much communication going on since August," and that "if we do it, it won't be called Bat Out of Hell Four." Well... Meat said there is not Bat4 but from this sentence looks like Meat has a contract for more albums. What will be that and what will be the title?

01 Dec 2006, 17:08	#2
djfierce Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.06.2005 Location: Posts: 3,596	not sure he'll have a contract but maybe a loose oral agreement. as to the title, that's like trying to predict tomorrows lottery numbers so i wont even try I think there is too much stuff flying around at the moment for Meat to be definate about anything

01 Dec 2006, 17:26	#3
Kev Just Kev Join Date: 01.06.2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,857	Bat out of Hell 4 - Here we go again! Bat Out Of Hell 4 - This Time It's Really Over... Let's get the ball rolling again :P

01 Dec 2006, 17:26	#4
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	there are many interviews (+jims blog) where Meat and Jim said something about another album, things like - A bat anthology with 3-5 (number variies) new songs is planned + some rare demo tracks of the original bat songs. - Meat sees the peak of his career still comming in the future - Jim mentioned several songs he plans to record with Meat. The interesting thing is that if you go through these interviews chronological, then you´ll see that the whole thing gets more and more specific and clear.

01 Dec 2006, 17:44	#5
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	I thought... Dead Ringer 2?

01 Dec 2006, 17:50	#6
Mick Loaf Thread Killer Join Date: 10.11.2005 Location: Livingston Posts: 1,140	Still Couldn't Have Said It Better Again Then we could have people typing SCHSIBA after everything that Meat types!

01 Dec 2006, 17:58	#7
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	TAFKABOOHFWSJBJSTT (the album formerly known as bat out of hell four with songs just by Jim Steinman this time)

01 Dec 2006, 17:59	#8
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	With Jim Steinman songs? :) I don't think so...

01 Dec 2006, 18:02	#9
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	why not? hey it´s still allowd to dream... and to get back to the facts, both Meat and Jim said they would like to do another album together (if it´s now 3-5 songs or a whole album, thet´s still unclear) but I see no reason for other writers is everything goes right this time. PS: but at the moment I´m just enjoying what I got with bat3!

01 Dec 2006, 18:05	#10
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	Which songs by Jim? (Because Dream Engine seems not overrated What Part Of My Body Hurts The Most We're Still Children We Once Were Graveyarsd Shift Not Allowed To Love Braver Then We Are Death Is Such An Odd Thing ????????????

01 Dec 2006, 18:24	#11
DazLoaf01 Super Loafer Join Date: 28.06.2003 Location: Devon, UK Posts: 455	BAT OUT OF HELL: THE PREQUEL AT BAT

01 Dec 2006, 19:44	#14
DazLoaf01 Super Loafer Join Date: 28.06.2003 Location: Devon, UK Posts: 455	I've got a sneaky suspicion a lot of the songs Jim mentioned on his blog may not be "complete" songs he has ready. Probably wrong, but who knows lol. Meat did write on the forum over at .net that if Jim were to have produced Bat3, it would have contained more 'cover' songs than it does now - that post was removed though. Meat mentioned on this site several years ago that Jim had written a song for him that was "twice the length" of Anything For Love(!!!). It's probably still here if you search.

01 Dec 2006, 19:52	#15
clpmss Anything for Sir Meat Loaf Join Date: 24.09.2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 644	My opinion is that from the song Paradise First base is Bat I Second base is Bat II Third base is Bat III Home plate is the squeeze play Meat just might "SQUEEZE PLAY" another album out.

01 Dec 2006, 20:08	#16
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	Rob Evan can sing very well... but he learnt to sing, he is not the nature's diamond. Dream Engine is not a good concept. I am interested in the full length Paradise!!!

02 Dec 2006, 09:19	#18
meatloaf-unofficial Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.02.2006 Location: Touring the Country Posts: 2,558	I rekon he might do another album after this and then call it a day - no offence, but I think it is time for him to relax after all this touring etc..

02 Dec 2006, 10:22	#19
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	It´s interesting that Jim is always working with singers who got a similar voice to him. ´Speaking of Rory Dodd on Bad for Good and now Rob Evan on Dream Engine.

02 Dec 2006, 11:36	#20
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	I'll just touch on some points quickly The Dream Engine, great idea, great potential, has to deliver any goods. The wrong person is driving the train IMO (Steve Rinkoff) Rob Evan, great singer for Broadway, no good for rock songs and he's not marketable I believe Meat and Jim do want to work together, but it won't happen in 2007 though I don't think there'll be an actual album, but more an EP (5 songs maybe) It's all anyone's guess, I personally would like to see a 'Conclusions & Climaxes' project, but I'll not hold my breath. Pud

02 Dec 2006, 12:53	#21
DanielF Steinfan Join Date: 21.10.2003 Location: Heidelberg/Germany Posts: 11	I think it only depends on Meat. If Jim really wants do a new album he'll have to work with Meat again. The Dream Engine album will never happen. Rob Evan is a great singer indeed, but he's not a rock singer. In my opinion The Dream Engine is not even a real band. lol Who should buy this album? Even many Meat Fans don't know what The Dream Engine is an Jim alone is just too unkown to have the success he deserves. Maybe both will "bite the bullet" and come together to make an album just for us fans. But I think that's only a dream lol Rock on Daniel

02 Dec 2006, 13:09	#22
Kev Just Kev Join Date: 01.06.2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,857	Sadly I agree, they might have a minor hit, but it would do nothing much. Certainly not outside whichever state in the USA that the main singer is known in. I'd still like to hear all their stuff Meat hasn't already done.

02 Dec 2006, 14:45	#24
DazLoaf01 Super Loafer Join Date: 28.06.2003 Location: Devon, UK Posts: 455	I think judging from the updates on the DE site, that the album would contain far more remakes of familiar songs than new material too.