Meat loaf albums in order (for me)

Meat-of-the-action · 01 Mar 2006, 06:04

Meat loaf albums in order (for me)

1 Dead Ringer, best of the best of the best

2 bat out of hell two, because of Objects

3 Bad attitude, because once a beautiful miss….

4 Live around the world, them bells just rock

5 Couldn’t have said it better…because of you top10 song

6 Welcome to the Neighbourhood, thought it was a Jim song.

7 Bat out of hell, for crying out loud why is it not at the top

8 Live With The Melbourne Symphony Orchestra

9 blind before I stop, will be if I listen to this crap

10 Hits out of hell. Was I dumb buying this one?

*AndyK* · 01 Mar 2006, 10:27

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WhenItComes2LovingU · 07 Mar 2006, 00:37

Not everyone's a big fan of Dead Ringer. I personally think that the album had a lot of wasted potential, and if Meat's really only going to use eight Steinman songs on Bat 3 (working title), who's to say he couldn't scavenge "Peel Out" or something else off of here?

Rockette · 07 Mar 2006, 06:15

Meat's albums have always been forward moving. For that reason, my favourites would always have to be counting the latest album as 1 back through time to 10. So any list I put here now would be outdated as newer stuff is released.

As for using stuff off Dead Ringer on Bat III, I see that as a backward move. Dead Ringer is a phenomenal album, and I have to agree in part that there was some wasted potential there. Nonetheless, I'd prefer to see it left intact as Dead Ringer.

*AndyK* · 07 Mar 2006, 09:56

Whilst I'd love to see Meat revisit and rerecord (or at least remix with a higher quality of production) songs he's worked on in the past I don't think they warrant inclusion on a "new" album.

As a bonus disc of remastered material alongisde the album release though would be fantastic...

Rockette · 07 Mar 2006, 13:06

Ooooh! Now you're talking. What a fantastic album/DVD combination that would make!

PanicLord · 07 Mar 2006, 21:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyK

As a bonus disc of remastered material alongisde the album release though would be fantastic...

100% agree - something I have been banging on about for quite some time :) Don't see it happening really given that they are supposed to finish Bat 3 by end April. Maybe one day.

THAT WOULD ROCK!

PanicLord · 08 Mar 2006, 21:45

1 Dead Ringer

2 Bat 1 and Bat 1 with the MSO

3 Bat 2

4 Welcome to the Neighbourhood

5 CHSIB

6 Bad Attitude

7 Midnight At The Lost And Found

8 Blind Before I Stop

AndrewG · 09 Mar 2006, 12:06

Very hard to judge all this but I'll give it a try:
Note that I still regard position 12 on my list much better than any other good album from another singer/artist.

1. Bat out of Hell
2. Bat out of Hell 2
3. Live with MSO
4. Welcome to the Neighbourhood
5. Couldn't have said it Better (1st part would be in my top 3 for sure. 2nd part around 6-10 so I settled for 5 for this album)
6. Live Around the World (songs from WTTN missing damn it!)
7. Blind before I stop
8. Very best
9. Dead Ringer
10. Meat Loaf Live
11. Bad Attitude
12. Midnight at the Lost and Found

I suspect Bat 3 will change the higher positions of my favs list

.

Paul191 · 09 Mar 2006, 20:02

My turn:
1. Bat Out Of Hell
2. Bat Out Of Hell 2
3. Bad Attitude
4. Live Around The World
5. Dead Ringer
6. Live With The MSO
7. Very Best
8. Welcome To The Neighbourhood
9. Blind Before I Stop
10. Couldn't Have Said It Better
11. Midnight At The Lost And Found

Jeanie · 09 Mar 2006, 21:14

My list..

1. BOOH
2. CHSIB
3. Bat2
4. Very Best Of
5.WTTN
6.MSO
7.Midnight...
8.Bad Attitude
9.Dead Ringer

I don't have BBIS, so can't add that one to the list.

J.

Paul191 · 10 Mar 2006, 02:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeanie

I don't have BBIS, so can't add that one to the list.

J.

No way! I urge you to buy it because it is a fantastic album, especially the first 5 songs. Great

Jeanie · 11 Mar 2006, 00:34

OK, ok.. I will. LOL

J.

rockfenris2005 · 11 Mar 2006, 06:16

Re: Dead Ringer, I think it contains some of the most personal and passionate writing of Jim Steinman. Meat would have sang it a lot better in, say, 1988 (when his voice was at its best for the second time in his career: the first being in 1977).

All those songs are like a private confession from a guy who's going off the rails. Peel Out, Gonna Love her, Deserve, Kill You, Read 'em, Everything: this is one intense album! In ways, song-wise, it's superior to BAT 1. But the arrangements and the sound of Meat's voice leave a lot to be desired. If this had of been made with Todd (perhaps with co-production by Steinman) it would have been awesome. It would have had the full Jim arrangement, the Todd sounding production, and it'd (likely) stand up today. But it's still a great album, IMO. It's been a personal favourite for over ten years.

Bad Attitude and Couldn't Have Said it Better are, easily, the under-rated masterpieces of Meat's career. Midnight and Blind are complete rubbish. Back Into Hell was a Steinman production and not Meat Loaf. It wasn't the natural presence of Meat, the songs were too long and needed editing, and it seems to go on forever. I like it, because it introduced me to Meat and Jim (and it's a special album to me), but it could have been done a lot more interesting if Meat had more of a say. Most of the songs are impossible to play live

BAT is still the best album for me.

Jaymze · 11 Mar 2006, 19:40

Bat is my favourite album too and it's deffinately the most personal and I'm not surprised that it sounds the best because if u think about it Meat and Jim had been performing the songs for a few years before they eventually got the album released so they knew them inside out and exactly what worked and what didn't plus the songs had a lot of meaning. I still feel in awe today how those two men had the determination and drive to make it big when the odds were entirely against them. In the midst of the punk and disco era, in an image centred industry Jim and Meat refused to accept no as an answer. Even when record producers were telling them people won't buy this, it'll never work they didn't give in on their dream and I thank God they didn't because we wouldn't have Bat Out of Hell if they did. Even if people aren't a Meat Loaf or Steinman fan they're story of success is still an inspiration to everyone and it makes me feel like I can achieve anything. Rock and Roll dreams really do come through.

Jeanie · 11 Mar 2006, 20:08

I totally agree, Jaymze.

J.

Ben · 11 Mar 2006, 21:34

you are 100 % right!!!

Jackoutofhell · 29 May 2006, 02:51

Hmm... tough decision

1. Bat Out Of Hell
2. Welcome To The Neighborhood
3. Bat Out Of Hell II
4. Dead Ringer
5. Couldn't Have Said It Better
6. Bad Attitude
7. Storytellers
8. Live Around The World
9. Live At Wembley
10. MSO
11. Blind Before I Stop
12. Midnight at The Lost and Found

Something like that anyway..

01 Mar 2006, 06:04	#1
Meat-of-the-action Junior Loafer Join Date: 31.01.2006 Posts: 32	Meat loaf albums in order (for me) Meat loaf albums in order (for me) 1 Dead Ringer, best of the best of the best 2 bat out of hell two, because of Objects 3 Bad attitude, because once a beautiful miss…. 4 Live around the world, them bells just rock 5 Couldn’t have said it better…because of you top10 song 6 Welcome to the Neighbourhood, thought it was a Jim song. 7 Bat out of hell, for crying out loud why is it not at the top 8 Live With The Melbourne Symphony Orchestra 9 blind before I stop, will be if I listen to this crap 10 Hits out of hell. Was I dumb buying this one?

09 Mar 2006, 12:06	#9
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,081	Very hard to judge all this but I'll give it a try: Note that I still regard position 12 on my list much better than any other good album from another singer/artist. 1. Bat out of Hell 2. Bat out of Hell 2 3. Live with MSO 4. Welcome to the Neighbourhood 5. Couldn't have said it Better (1st part would be in my top 3 for sure. 2nd part around 6-10 so I settled for 5 for this album) 6. Live Around the World (songs from WTTN missing damn it!) 7. Blind before I stop 8. Very best 9. Dead Ringer 10. Meat Loaf Live 11. Bad Attitude 12. Midnight at the Lost and Found I suspect Bat 3 will change the higher positions of my favs list . Last edited by AndrewG; 09 Mar 2006 at 12:11.

01 Mar 2006, 10:27	#2
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	Thread cleanup ... moved to TT&BH forum.

07 Mar 2006, 00:37	#3
WhenItComes2LovingU Banned Join Date: 16.01.2006 Posts: 303	Not everyone's a big fan of Dead Ringer. I personally think that the album had a lot of wasted potential, and if Meat's really only going to use eight Steinman songs on Bat 3 (working title), who's to say he couldn't scavenge "Peel Out" or something else off of here?

07 Mar 2006, 06:15	#4
Rockette Mega Loafer Join Date: 10.06.2005 Location: I think! Posts: 4,805	Meat's albums have always been forward moving. For that reason, my favourites would always have to be counting the latest album as 1 back through time to 10. So any list I put here now would be outdated as newer stuff is released. As for using stuff off Dead Ringer on Bat III, I see that as a backward move. Dead Ringer is a phenomenal album, and I have to agree in part that there was some wasted potential there. Nonetheless, I'd prefer to see it left intact as Dead Ringer.

07 Mar 2006, 09:56	#5
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	Whilst I'd love to see Meat revisit and rerecord (or at least remix with a higher quality of production) songs he's worked on in the past I don't think they warrant inclusion on a "new" album. As a bonus disc of remastered material alongisde the album release though would be fantastic...

07 Mar 2006, 13:06	#6
Rockette Mega Loafer Join Date: 10.06.2005 Location: I think! Posts: 4,805	Ooooh! Now you're talking. What a fantastic album/DVD combination that would make!

08 Mar 2006, 21:45	#8
PanicLord Mega Loafer Join Date: 18.06.2003 Location: At The End Of The Line Posts: 2,653	1 Dead Ringer 2 Bat 1 and Bat 1 with the MSO 3 Bat 2 4 Welcome to the Neighbourhood 5 CHSIB 6 Bad Attitude 7 Midnight At The Lost And Found 8 Blind Before I Stop

09 Mar 2006, 20:02	#10
Paul191 Mega Loafer Join Date: 26.11.2005 Location: Posts: 1,530	My turn: 1. Bat Out Of Hell 2. Bat Out Of Hell 2 3. Bad Attitude 4. Live Around The World 5. Dead Ringer 6. Live With The MSO 7. Very Best 8. Welcome To The Neighbourhood 9. Blind Before I Stop 10. Couldn't Have Said It Better 11. Midnight At The Lost And Found

09 Mar 2006, 21:14	#11
Jeanie Super Loafer Join Date: 09.07.2003 Location: Canada Posts: 996	My list.. 1. BOOH 2. CHSIB 3. Bat2 4. Very Best Of 5.WTTN 6.MSO 7.Midnight... 8.Bad Attitude 9.Dead Ringer I don't have BBIS, so can't add that one to the list. J.

11 Mar 2006, 00:34	#13
Jeanie Super Loafer Join Date: 09.07.2003 Location: Canada Posts: 996	OK, ok.. I will. LOL J.

11 Mar 2006, 06:16	#14
rockfenris2005 Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.02.2003 Location: Posts: 2,217	Re: Dead Ringer, I think it contains some of the most personal and passionate writing of Jim Steinman. Meat would have sang it a lot better in, say, 1988 (when his voice was at its best for the second time in his career: the first being in 1977). All those songs are like a private confession from a guy who's going off the rails. Peel Out, Gonna Love her, Deserve, Kill You, Read 'em, Everything: this is one intense album! In ways, song-wise, it's superior to BAT 1. But the arrangements and the sound of Meat's voice leave a lot to be desired. If this had of been made with Todd (perhaps with co-production by Steinman) it would have been awesome. It would have had the full Jim arrangement, the Todd sounding production, and it'd (likely) stand up today. But it's still a great album, IMO. It's been a personal favourite for over ten years. Bad Attitude and Couldn't Have Said it Better are, easily, the under-rated masterpieces of Meat's career. Midnight and Blind are complete rubbish. Back Into Hell was a Steinman production and not Meat Loaf. It wasn't the natural presence of Meat, the songs were too long and needed editing, and it seems to go on forever. I like it, because it introduced me to Meat and Jim (and it's a special album to me), but it could have been done a lot more interesting if Meat had more of a say. Most of the songs are impossible to play live BAT is still the best album for me.

11 Mar 2006, 19:40	#15
Jaymze Super Loafer Join Date: 10.12.2003 Location: Sunderland Posts: 265	Bat is my favourite album too and it's deffinately the most personal and I'm not surprised that it sounds the best because if u think about it Meat and Jim had been performing the songs for a few years before they eventually got the album released so they knew them inside out and exactly what worked and what didn't plus the songs had a lot of meaning. I still feel in awe today how those two men had the determination and drive to make it big when the odds were entirely against them. In the midst of the punk and disco era, in an image centred industry Jim and Meat refused to accept no as an answer. Even when record producers were telling them people won't buy this, it'll never work they didn't give in on their dream and I thank God they didn't because we wouldn't have Bat Out of Hell if they did. Even if people aren't a Meat Loaf or Steinman fan they're story of success is still an inspiration to everyone and it makes me feel like I can achieve anything. Rock and Roll dreams really do come through.

11 Mar 2006, 20:08	#16
Jeanie Super Loafer Join Date: 09.07.2003 Location: Canada Posts: 996	I totally agree, Jaymze. J.

11 Mar 2006, 21:34	#17
Ben Mega Loafer Join Date: 19.03.2003 Location: Kent, England Posts: 4,163	you are 100 % right!!!

29 May 2006, 02:51	#18
Jackoutofhell Super Loafer Join Date: 13.03.2006 Posts: 369	Hmm... tough decision 1. Bat Out Of Hell 2. Welcome To The Neighborhood 3. Bat Out Of Hell II 4. Dead Ringer 5. Couldn't Have Said It Better 6. Bad Attitude 7. Storytellers 8. Live Around The World 9. Live At Wembley 10. MSO 11. Blind Before I Stop 12. Midnight at The Lost and Found Something like that anyway..