Why wasn't Execution Day ruined?

Evil One · 15 Jun 2013, 20:15

Just been blasting a bit of Execution Day which is far better than the rest of Blind Before I Stop. I was just wondering why Frank Farian didn't ruin it with dance beats like he did for the rest of the album. I'm glad he didn't, but it just seems a bit odd.

Wario · 15 Jun 2013, 21:48

Dunno. im a BBIS fanboy. I dont really find anything ruined.

Actually I could never tell what dance beats are in One More Kiss, Masculine, Rock n Roll Hero, or BBIS. I can clearly hear them in Burning Down, Standing on the Outside, Special Girl, and especially in the extended versions of Mercenaries & Getting Away With Murder.

chairboys · 15 Jun 2013, 21:49

best track on the album.

Evil One · 15 Jun 2013, 21:56

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Originally Posted by Wario

Dunno. im a BBIS fanboy.

Really? I didn't know that.

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Originally Posted by chairboys

best track on the album.

By a considerable margin.

Breeze · 15 Jun 2013, 23:05

I have always like BBIS . It is one of my favorite albums and one I listen to more than several others. The title song and Rock and Roll Mercenaries + Execution day are my favs. I believe there eis something called night of the soft parade? I like most of the album.

Wario · 15 Jun 2013, 23:23

BBIS is actually my second favorite Meat album after Bat 2.

Deena J · 15 Jun 2013, 23:40

Hmmm interesting!!! Sounds like I need to relisten to this album... I never even pick this one up when I shuffle through my ML cd's, I've disliked it so much for as long as I can remember!

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Wario · 15 Jun 2013, 23:44

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Originally Posted by Deena J

Hmmm interesting!!! Sounds like I need to relisten to this album... I never even pick this one up when I shuffle through my ML cd's, I've disliked it so much for as long as I can remember!

Thats the problem. at first listen I HATED IT. HATED MASCULINE.
Then I started to grow tired of Bat, Dead Ringer, Bat 2 and started going towards BBIS and BA.

Oh man they've come so far with me its ridiculous. Its so underrated.

Midnight is till cant listen to all the way through tho.

Deena J · 15 Jun 2013, 23:49

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Originally Posted by Wario

Thats the problem. at first listen I HATED IT. HATED MASCULINE.
Then I started to grow tired of Bat, Dead Ringer, Bat 2 and started going towards BBIS and BA.

Oh man they've come so far with me its ridiculous. Its so underrated.

Midnight is till cant listen to all the way through tho.

Oh I love Bad Attitude! It's definitely a top 5 for me (booh, dr, ba, booh2, & hctb)... It's sooo 80s sounding hahahaha! I can't put my finger on why I never liked bbis though. Like I said, I'll have to give it another go, I guess. :)

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Evil One · 16 Jun 2013, 00:01

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Originally Posted by Wario

Then I started to grow tired of Bat, Dead Ringer, Bat 2

Is such a thing possible?

Wario · 16 Jun 2013, 00:03

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Originally Posted by Evil One

Is such a thing possible?

Not perminmatley just at a time I was tired of it. there was a time when id listen to readem and weep every single day

White of High · 16 Jun 2013, 00:17

Execution Day is about his father and their situation as far as I unterstand the lyrics. Meat probably didn't want to ruin this masterpiece with dance beats. I even don't hear Standing On The Outside as a dance beat. It's a simple but beautiful ballad. Nothing special just great tune and melody. I find it better than 2 out of 3 or any easy listening pop ballads from the last decade.

Evil One · 16 Jun 2013, 00:23

Meat didn't want to ruin any of them with dance beats. They were added without his knowledge.

PanicLord · 16 Jun 2013, 00:28

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Originally Posted by Evil One

Meat didn't want to ruin any of them with dance beats. They were added without his knowledge.

Yes and I'm sure Meat has said he repaired as much of the damage as possible.

Wario · 16 Jun 2013, 00:59

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Originally Posted by PanicLord

Yes and I'm sure Meat has said he repaired as much of the damage as possible.

yep he did:

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**The Flying Mouse** · 16 Jun 2013, 01:28

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Originally Posted by White of High

Execution Day is about his father and their situation as far as I unterstand the lyrics.

THe only time the word "father" is mentioned is at the end of the song.
I think the word is used to address the priest that would be in the condened man's cell before sentence is carried out, rather than the characters actual dad.

He asks the priest to show him the way to set his soul free.

I think that one lyric itself could mean 1 of 3 things.

1. Show him how to go to his death well with dignity.
2. Show him how he can save his soul and get to heaven despite his crime.
3. Show the way, as in lead the way to the death chamber where his soul will be released from his body.

It's all how you choose to interpret the lyrics

My favourite song on the album is Standing On The Outside. Not a dance beat in sight (or sound

)

Meat did a great job on getting a more rockier edge on the live performances.
Would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Meat had stayed in the production process untill the end.

Wario · 16 Jun 2013, 01:35

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Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

THe only time the word "father" is mentioned is at the end of the song.
I think the word is used to address the priest that would be in the condened man's cell before sentence is carried out, rather than the characters actual dad.

He asks the priest to show him the way to set his soul free.

I think that one lyric itself could mean 1 of 3 things.

1. Show him how to go to his death well with dignity.
2. Show him how he can save his soul and get to heaven despite his crime.
3. Show the way, as in lead the way to the death chamber where his soul will be released from his body.

It's all how you choose to interpritate the lyrics

My favourite song on the album is Standing On The Outside. Not a dance beat in sight (or sound

)

Meat did a great job on getting a more rockier edge on the live performances.
Would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Meat had stayed in the production process untill the end.

Ya,, WOH's posts dont make much sense.

**The Flying Mouse** · 16 Jun 2013, 01:42

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Originally Posted by Wario

Ya,, WOH's posts dont make much sense.

I wouldn't say that.

A lot of art is open to interpretation.
No right or wrong, it means to you what it means.

If White thinks the song is about the relationship between Meat and his dad it just means he finds a different meaning in the song.

misterfive · 16 Jun 2013, 01:59

My theory is Meat Loaf and Dick Wagner were both writers of this song, so Execution Day's unique style from the rest of album probably came from Meat's attempting Steinman style lyrics and music while Wagner tried to put his own style of rock in there. Having worked with Alice Cooper and KISS its obvious that the song couldn't go any direction but a solid rock track.

Wario · 16 Jun 2013, 05:18

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Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

I wouldn't say that.

A lot of art is open to interpretation.
No right or wrong, it means to you what it means.

If White thinks the song is about the relationship between Meat and his dad it just means he finds a different meaning in the song.

forgot the "lol" but youre right.

White of High · 16 Jun 2013, 06:45

I have always found Execution Day as deep as Objects is. Why?

"Send for the iceman, my temperature is startin' to rise
I've heard it before, I know the truth from the lies"

To me it means he was affraid of his father but he knew he is no nobody.

"Is it any wonder, heaven's racked with thunder
and all of my dreams go under
like the fallin' rain"

But all of the negative words his father used had destroyed his dreams.

"Don't touch me now
Won't let you crucify me
You ain't no damn jury
You can't pass sentence on me"

Meat is against his father's attitude.

"Where's the promsised they preached for this land
Standin' with their bibles clutched in their hand"

As far as I know Meat's mother was religious. I can imagine that Meat spent a lot of time in church when he was child and now he is totally disappointed.

"Father my hand's are shakin'
I see a light that's breakin'
Show me a way to set my soul free"

The only sentence what is not about his father. It's a pray about leaving bad memories back.

For me this song is about his father, his childhood and their relationship. One of the deepest song of his career.

Paul Richardson · 17 Jun 2013, 00:16

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Originally Posted by Wario

BBIS is actually my second favorite Meat album after Bat 2.

I dislike BBIS, BA and MATLAF, but Execution Day is a great song - the most non Steinman, Steinman song imo. Interesting that Meat co wrote it - may be Meat had more influence on the Steinmam albums than he's given credit for given the greatness of this song ?

Wario · 17 Jun 2013, 00:38

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Originally Posted by Paul Richardson

may be Meat had more influence on the Steinmam albums than he's given credit for given the greatness of this song ?

Ive always thought that myself. I know meat has ghost written stuff hes done. he always says he doesnt take writing credits (I believe he stated this in an interview about All of me). I wouldnt be at all surprised if he wrote the second verse of Objects!

Paul Richardson · 17 Jun 2013, 01:26

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Originally Posted by Wario

I wouldnt be at all surprised if he wrote the second verse of Objects!

I think Objects was written for him - but is definitely about his life - certainly the second verse at least ...

renegadeangel · 19 Jun 2013, 13:41

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Originally Posted by Wario

Ive always thought that myself. I know meat has ghost written stuff hes done. he always says he doesnt take writing credits (I believe he stated this in an interview about All of me). I wouldnt be at all surprised if he wrote the second verse of Objects!

I don't think he sits down and actually writes a song per se with someone. I think he inspires them with an idea, organizes the song structure and adds to an already roughed out demo.
I think he has far more creative input into a song that is written than some artists.
To me that in itself deserves a songwriting credit.

15 Jun 2013, 20:15	#1
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	Why wasn't Execution Day ruined? Just been blasting a bit of Execution Day which is far better than the rest of Blind Before I Stop. I was just wondering why Frank Farian didn't ruin it with dance beats like he did for the rest of the album. I'm glad he didn't, but it just seems a bit odd.

15 Jun 2013, 21:48	#2
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	Dunno. im a BBIS fanboy. I dont really find anything ruined. Actually I could never tell what dance beats are in One More Kiss, Masculine, Rock n Roll Hero, or BBIS. I can clearly hear them in Burning Down, Standing on the Outside, Special Girl, and especially in the extended versions of Mercenaries & Getting Away With Murder.

15 Jun 2013, 21:49	#3
chairboys Mega Loafer Join Date: 17.09.2011 Posts: 1,811	best track on the album.

15 Jun 2013, 23:05	#5
Breeze Miss Inclined Join Date: 24.07.2010 Location: Posts: 448	I have always like BBIS . It is one of my favorite albums and one I listen to more than several others. The title song and Rock and Roll Mercenaries + Execution day are my favs. I believe there eis something called night of the soft parade? I like most of the album.

15 Jun 2013, 23:23	#6
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	BBIS is actually my second favorite Meat album after Bat 2.

15 Jun 2013, 23:40	#7
Deena J Super Loafer Join Date: 25.06.2011 Location: Arkansas Posts: 356	Hmmm interesting!!! Sounds like I need to relisten to this album... I never even pick this one up when I shuffle through my ML cd's, I've disliked it so much for as long as I can remember! Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

16 Jun 2013, 00:17	#12
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	Execution Day is about his father and their situation as far as I unterstand the lyrics. Meat probably didn't want to ruin this masterpiece with dance beats. I even don't hear Standing On The Outside as a dance beat. It's a simple but beautiful ballad. Nothing special just great tune and melody. I find it better than 2 out of 3 or any easy listening pop ballads from the last decade.

16 Jun 2013, 00:23	#13
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	Meat didn't want to ruin any of them with dance beats. They were added without his knowledge.

16 Jun 2013, 01:59	#19
misterfive Super Loafer Join Date: 23.03.2012 Location: Canada Posts: 232	My theory is Meat Loaf and Dick Wagner were both writers of this song, so Execution Day's unique style from the rest of album probably came from Meat's attempting Steinman style lyrics and music while Wagner tried to put his own style of rock in there. Having worked with Alice Cooper and KISS its obvious that the song couldn't go any direction but a solid rock track.

16 Jun 2013, 06:45	#21
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	I have always found Execution Day as deep as Objects is. Why? "Send for the iceman, my temperature is startin' to rise I've heard it before, I know the truth from the lies" To me it means he was affraid of his father but he knew he is no nobody. "Is it any wonder, heaven's racked with thunder and all of my dreams go under like the fallin' rain" But all of the negative words his father used had destroyed his dreams. "Don't touch me now Won't let you crucify me You ain't no damn jury You can't pass sentence on me" Meat is against his father's attitude. "Where's the promsised they preached for this land Standin' with their bibles clutched in their hand" As far as I know Meat's mother was religious. I can imagine that Meat spent a lot of time in church when he was child and now he is totally disappointed. "Father my hand's are shakin' I see a light that's breakin' Show me a way to set my soul free" The only sentence what is not about his father. It's a pray about leaving bad memories back. For me this song is about his father, his childhood and their relationship. One of the deepest song of his career.