Prize Fight Lover: HCTB or BTWA version? - Page 2

AndrewG · 11 Sep 2016, 14:05

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Originally Posted by Wario

I get it was obviously a stylistic choice, DUH

BUT it's not smooth, unlike in AFL and Two Out Of Three and If I Can't Have You. That's the mixing.

Also the choppy hiss on the AFL track is terrible. You can fade in and out those tracks slightly. That was lazy. And fill it with room tone

These bonus tracks couldn't have been produced by Paul

Bonus.... As in you get it for free. It's much better than what I was expecting.

Wario · 11 Sep 2016, 14:11

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

Bonus.... As in you get it for free. It's much better than what I was expecting.

It's not an excuse tho. that hiss in AFL is god awful and jarring

AndrewG · 11 Sep 2016, 14:14

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Originally Posted by Wario

It's not an excuse tho. that hiss in AFL is god awful and jarring

I haven't noticed. How are you listening to these songs, on an old Masculine jukebox?

ThatWriterGuy · 11 Sep 2016, 14:22

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

I haven't noticed. How are you listening to these songs, on an old Masculine jukebox?

Man, I could so see Chris with an old illuminated, neon coloured jukebox from a roadside diner, the other side of the 80s. Maybe he'd go in there and order a slice or pie ... we all know how that'd end

Evil One · 11 Sep 2016, 14:29

Typical MLUKFC. Let's make fun of someone for pointing out a problem instead of discussing the problem.

Wario is right and I noticed it straight away. The panting from the vocal track has been removed, but instead of replacing it with the ambience of the room, it has been replaced with silence. Either the whole track should have been de-hissed, or another track used. It sounds very amateurish. And a waste of Imelda May's talents.

AndrewG · 11 Sep 2016, 14:34

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Originally Posted by Evil One

Typical MLUKFC. Let's make fun of someone for pointing out a problem instead of discussing the problem.

Wario is right and I noticed it straight away. The panting from the vocal track has been removed, but instead of replacing it with the ambience of the room, it has been replaced with silence. Either the whole track should have been de-hissed, or another track used. It sounds very amateurish. And a waste of Imelda May's talents.

Yes it's typical of MLUKFC

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Originally Posted by Evil One

The two of you must have hearing issues, or you smear dog shit over your old CDs.

Wario · 11 Sep 2016, 14:55

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

I haven't noticed. How are you listening to these songs, on an old Masculine jukebox?

You mix and make music..... How do you not notice that hiss?

AndrewG · 11 Sep 2016, 14:58

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Originally Posted by Wario

You mix and make music..... How do you not notice that hiss?

I can listen out for it, you're probably right. It just doesn't bother me too much. There are other problems on the album, also that you've mentioned I guess I think are more worthy of a discussion.

Adje · 11 Sep 2016, 15:11

there is a hiss. I don't care as I already find the AFL track useless. But I understand Wario as well. If you put it up at least put some work into it.

And it's not like the bonus songs are free either. They would if there was one album with all bonus tracks and DVD. But there are three different albums and they are more expensive (at least in the Netherlands) than the bonus free album.

So you have fans, you want them to spend the extra buck because you randomly put bonus 'gifts' on different albums, than make sure that the songs, they are spending the extra buck on, are decently produced.

Anyway, back to topic. The HCTB version for me. Which is funny. The only track of HCTB that I don's hate (or dislike - for the tender souls) is the one that never made the album

As for the 8 bonus songs (and if I may believe some fans also the DVD), I don't think any of them are worth the trouble of buying multiple albums (unless you're a die hard collector's fan). Waste of money, imo

ThatWriterGuy · 11 Sep 2016, 21:12

I just listened to this again -- and although I love the HCTB version, this one really does have some great guitar moments, and the arrangement is pretty damn cool, too. I think it needs more time to grow -- so much music in a short space of time.

ashkent7 · 11 Sep 2016, 22:24

I didn't notice the hiss particularly until it was pointed out...then i heard it for the opening verse and the music then pretty much covers it until the end. Then i listened to it again and i pretty much forgot it was there again.

Sometimes, once in a while,when you're mixing things or putting together videos you do accidentally miss something. It's like when you've written a book, re-read it six times, put it away for six months, come back and read it again. And the first person reads the first page and says "You missed the s". Such is life.

Fire Ball · 11 Sep 2016, 23:47

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Originally Posted by Wario

When mixing is bad and editing is bad i can, and i will. I spent so much on this record I have the right.

All these 5 star fruitless reviews are blind imo. the record has some serious problems.

Im far from the only one here who thinks this. im just the only one who will say anything publicly and get the backlash. idgaf.

Really sorry you didn't like the record !! MY quote , some will love it some will hate it !!! it's the last one sorry M

Benny · 11 Sep 2016, 23:50

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Originally Posted by Fire Ball

Really sorry you didn't like the record !! MY quote , some will love it some will hate it !!! it's the last one sorry M

I love it... You know Meat and Jim have got together again... My god as soon as I press play... I get goosebumps and it's like it was written for me... How do they do it... Great stuff Meat Jim and neverland express

Fire Ball · 11 Sep 2016, 23:50

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Originally Posted by Wario

It's not an excuse tho. that hiss in AFL is god awful and jarring

Maybe you got a bad pressing !! Paul Mixed them and I don't have a hiss in my copy !! M

Wario · 11 Sep 2016, 23:57

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Originally Posted by Fire Ball

Really sorry you didn't like the record !! MY quote , some will love it some will hate it !!! it's the last one sorry M

I do like a few songs Meat, I really do. Yes I'm critical and honest.

Love ya, regardless my opinion you and Jim should feel proud that's it's touched so many others

Chris

Fire Ball · 12 Sep 2016, 00:09

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Originally Posted by Fire Ball

Maybe you got a bad pressing !! Paul Mixed them and I don't have a hiss in my copy !! M

May I suggest this if you don't like the record , and the only thing that you could make to be a hiss is a very high violin that is playing !!

IF you don't like the record return it and get your money back !!!

This will be my last post on this site !! M

nikox1 · 12 Sep 2016, 00:23

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Originally Posted by Fire Ball

May I suggest this if you don't like the record , and the only thing that you could make to be a hiss is a very high violin that is playing !!

IF you don't like the record return it and get your money back !!!

This will be my last post on this site !! M

Meat you gave it everything you had. Just rise above it

LucyK! · 12 Sep 2016, 01:02

This really pisses me off.

Braver was Meat's last album. Ever. Not only was it his last album but after all these years he's finally been able to put this together with Jim, something which means the world to ML and is a dream come true for the fans.

And still it gets picked apart...

For those who love the album, great. For those that don't, just respect and appreciate it for what it is, what it represents and enjoy it to the best of your ability.

Now isn't the time for dissecting every note, please just support Meat through this...I know how I feel about this journey being over, imagine how he feels...

Wario · 12 Sep 2016, 01:07

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Originally Posted by LucyK!

This really pisses me off.

Braver was Meat's last album. Ever. Not only was it his last album but after all these years he's finally been able to put this together with Jim, something which means the world to ML and is a dream come true for the fans.

And still it gets picked apart...

For those who love the album, great. For those that don't, just respect and appreciate it for what it is, what it represents and enjoy it to the best of your ability.

Now isn't the time for dissecting every note, please just support Meat through this...I know how I feel about this journey being over, imagine how he feels...

I do respect it and also like picking apart

Asking me not to do so is impossible Luce

LucyK! · 12 Sep 2016, 01:09

I'm the first person to encourage people posting honest and respectful reviews, and if you don't like something I certainly wouldn't expect you to lie about it...

That being said, there's an appropriate time, and in my opinion now isn't it.

Wario · 12 Sep 2016, 01:14

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Originally Posted by LucyK!

I'm the first person to encourage people posting honest and respectful reviews, and if you don't like something I certainly wouldn't expect you to lie about it...

That being said, there's an appropriate time, and in my opinion now isn't it.

When the CD releases is the perfect time so meat gets an accurate read of response. Its all part of pie.

anotherday · 12 Sep 2016, 01:21

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Originally Posted by Wario

When the CD releases is the perfect time so meat gets an accurate read of response. Its all part of pie.

no

AndrewG · 12 Sep 2016, 01:22

Adje used the word "passion" in the other thread. I understand Wario's passion. Meat understands that regardless of what anyone thinks about the songs, the album etc that at least he is getting the passion out of everyone!

Having said that I do think we should be a bit tactful when and how we post stuff. This thread didn't need to be in General Messages in my opinion for one. How about under TTBH? GM is not for dissecting songs, more for generic messages about what is/was happening etc.

LucyK! · 12 Sep 2016, 01:23

The guy is in the middle of an international promo tour two months after being hospitalized with exhaustion. He's in agony and continues the promo while the press acuse him of being drunk/stoned/had a stroke...

He's just completed his last album and is now faced with no longer being able to perform for the fans. I can't even begin to imagine how that feels.

So I respectfully disagree, now isn't the time. Perhaps a little more consideration for Meat Loaf the man rather than Meat Loaf the product.

duke knooby · 12 Sep 2016, 01:30

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Originally Posted by LucyK!

He's just completed his last album and is now faced with no longer being able to perform for the fans. I can't even begin to imagine how that feels.

that hadn't even occurred to me

well said Lucy

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11 Sep 2016, 14:29	#30
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	Typical MLUKFC. Let's make fun of someone for pointing out a problem instead of discussing the problem. Wario is right and I noticed it straight away. The panting from the vocal track has been removed, but instead of replacing it with the ambience of the room, it has been replaced with silence. Either the whole track should have been de-hissed, or another track used. It sounds very amateurish. And a waste of Imelda May's talents.

11 Sep 2016, 15:11	#34
Adje trying to be realistic Join Date: 28.09.2007 Location: Posts: 1,958	there is a hiss. I don't care as I already find the AFL track useless. But I understand Wario as well. If you put it up at least put some work into it. And it's not like the bonus songs are free either. They would if there was one album with all bonus tracks and DVD. But there are three different albums and they are more expensive (at least in the Netherlands) than the bonus free album. So you have fans, you want them to spend the extra buck because you randomly put bonus 'gifts' on different albums, than make sure that the songs, they are spending the extra buck on, are decently produced. Anyway, back to topic. The HCTB version for me. Which is funny. The only track of HCTB that I don's hate (or dislike - for the tender souls) is the one that never made the album As for the 8 bonus songs (and if I may believe some fans also the DVD), I don't think any of them are worth the trouble of buying multiple albums (unless you're a die hard collector's fan). Waste of money, imo

11 Sep 2016, 21:12	#35
ThatWriterGuy Super Loafer Join Date: 19.10.2015 Location: UK Posts: 669	I just listened to this again -- and although I love the HCTB version, this one really does have some great guitar moments, and the arrangement is pretty damn cool, too. I think it needs more time to grow -- so much music in a short space of time.

11 Sep 2016, 22:24	#36
ashkent7 Super Loafer Join Date: 02.12.2010 Location: Durham,UK Posts: 338	I didn't notice the hiss particularly until it was pointed out...then i heard it for the opening verse and the music then pretty much covers it until the end. Then i listened to it again and i pretty much forgot it was there again. Sometimes, once in a while,when you're mixing things or putting together videos you do accidentally miss something. It's like when you've written a book, re-read it six times, put it away for six months, come back and read it again. And the first person reads the first page and says "You missed the s". Such is life.

12 Sep 2016, 01:02	#43
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	This really pisses me off. Braver was Meat's last album. Ever. Not only was it his last album but after all these years he's finally been able to put this together with Jim, something which means the world to ML and is a dream come true for the fans. And still it gets picked apart... For those who love the album, great. For those that don't, just respect and appreciate it for what it is, what it represents and enjoy it to the best of your ability. Now isn't the time for dissecting every note, please just support Meat through this...I know how I feel about this journey being over, imagine how he feels...

12 Sep 2016, 01:09	#45
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	I'm the first person to encourage people posting honest and respectful reviews, and if you don't like something I certainly wouldn't expect you to lie about it... That being said, there's an appropriate time, and in my opinion now isn't it.

12 Sep 2016, 01:22	#48
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,077	Adje used the word "passion" in the other thread. I understand Wario's passion. Meat understands that regardless of what anyone thinks about the songs, the album etc that at least he is getting the passion out of everyone! Having said that I do think we should be a bit tactful when and how we post stuff. This thread didn't need to be in General Messages in my opinion for one. How about under TTBH? GM is not for dissecting songs, more for generic messages about what is/was happening etc.

12 Sep 2016, 01:23	#49
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	The guy is in the middle of an international promo tour two months after being hospitalized with exhaustion. He's in agony and continues the promo while the press acuse him of being drunk/stoned/had a stroke... He's just completed his last album and is now faced with no longer being able to perform for the fans. I can't even begin to imagine how that feels. So I respectfully disagree, now isn't the time. Perhaps a little more consideration for Meat Loaf the man rather than Meat Loaf the product.