meats voice. - Page 2

simon2279 · 26 Jul 2006, 16:47

sorry to make you dissapointed paul i only just noticed it the other day! pleased ive been backed up on this one lol

simon2279 · 26 Jul 2006, 16:49

pleased im not as blind as a bat! lol

hayley · 26 Jul 2006, 16:49

This is mad he was out of shot

simon2279 · 26 Jul 2006, 16:50

honestly its true!!!

Paul191 · 26 Jul 2006, 16:51

Watch Meat's mouth just before it cuts aswell because you will notice that it is out of sequence.

razorball2002 · 26 Jul 2006, 16:55

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Originally Posted by simon2279

on the mso dvd you can see that meat is not singing live! theres one point where he takes the mic from his mouth but his voice is still going?! ill find out which part its at.

i'm glad you noticed that. i am a singer too and i know you can take the mic away and still hear a whisper sound. but if your lips aren't moving, you shouldn't be able to hear articulated words. there are several moments on that live dvd that are overdubbed. this is not to tell that Meat was singing out of tune throughout the show, but some small parts are overdubbed, and that's a fact.

razorball2002 · 26 Jul 2006, 16:57

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Originally Posted by razorball2002

i'm glad you noticed that. i am a singer too and i know you can take the mic away and still hear a whisper sound. but if your lips aren't moving, you shouldn't be able to hear articulated words. there are several moments on that live dvd that are overdubbed. this is not to tell that Meat was singing out of tune throughout the show, but some small parts are overdubbed, and that's a fact.

ain't nothing wrong about it, every band does it. I not only notice that on meat dvds!!!!

**Ankie** · 26 Jul 2006, 17:20

Play it nice, folks.

razorball2002 · 26 Jul 2006, 18:43

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Originally Posted by Ankie

Play it nice, folks.

we always do it real nice... and soft

samurai7 · 26 Jul 2006, 19:08

The sound on the MSO DVD is mastered up to DTS 5.1 quality. There is tons of compression on the vocals, so even if Meat does take the mic away, the voice will still be heard. However, there are obviously some 'overdubs'. The show was recorded over two nights, right? They took the best bits of BOTH nights and edited them together. Say for instance, he sang the chorus of a song better on night 2, but the verse better on night 1?! Simple - mix them together, then put this 'new' audio mix on top of the filmed footage. END OF DEBATE.

Sean

Paul191 · 26 Jul 2006, 19:23

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Originally Posted by Son Of Meat Loaf

The sound on the MSO DVD is mastered up to DTS 5.1 quality. There is tons of compression on the vocals, so even if Meat does take the mic away, the voice will still be heard. However, there are obviously some 'overdubs'. The show was recorded over two nights, right? They took the best bits of BOTH nights and edited them together. Say for instance, he sang the chorus of a song better on night 2, but the verse better on night 1?! Simple - mix them together, then put this 'new' audio mix on top of the filmed footage.
Sean

I have to agree with you here. I was a little dissapointed when I first saw the dubbing but you have just made my day with your fantastic point!

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Originally Posted by Son Of Meat Loaf

END OF DEBATE

errrm, I don't think the debate will be over just because you say so..... if we want to carry on bedating then we can.

**allrevvedup** · 26 Jul 2006, 19:35

Apparantly at one of the half time shows a couple of years ago someone noticed that Shania Twain's vocals sounded a bit too perfect in parts (ie like the original song) the article (think it was on msn.com) basically went on to say that they had the original track playing on the soundboard and if any note is sounding flat they push up the original lyric with the sound delay.

This may or may not be something Meat has done on the MSO dvd, who knows...I did notice it on ICHSIBM on the slow part ('then you say nothing at all, so many times etc..) when it gets to Meat's line 'Well i couldn't have said it better myself' and patti goes on with 'now you finish me off...', that meats voal sounded a bit too like the original. I think that was the only time though.

At the end of it all who cares, the man doesn't mime everything like a lot of pop artists and it was because of the effort that he was putting into the live vocal that he collapsed on stage. So i'll take 99.999999% live vocal and the rest original sound anyday.

samurai7 · 26 Jul 2006, 19:37

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Originally Posted by Paul191

errrm, I don't think the debate will be over just because you say so..... if we want to carry on bedating then we can.

You can 'bedate' as much as you like, mate!

sunneke · 26 Jul 2006, 19:39

i don't really mind it... he took the best of 2 nights and made a fantastic dvd of it.... nothing wrong i think?

gotham_child · 27 Jul 2006, 20:26

i personaly cant pick a decade song or time when Meats vocals rocked coz his singing has always done things to me that no man cud eva do! ( devil in disguise our Meaty is!)

PanicLord · 29 Jul 2006, 06:36

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Originally Posted by sunneke

i don't really mind it... he took the best of 2 nights and made a fantastic dvd of it.... nothing wrong i think?

Absolutely nothing wrong. I do not believe he rerecorded anything in a studio and passed it off as live - I think that they just chose the best sound and video from the 2 nights. This means that if the video was better one night and the sound better the other night, the lips may not synch with the sound.

Surely this is the whole point of having recorded it over 2 nights in the first place?

27 Jul 2006, 20:26	#40
gotham_child Super Loafer Join Date: 21.07.2006 Location: Midlands UK Posts: 233	voice of n angel.... i personaly cant pick a decade song or time when Meats vocals rocked coz his singing has always done things to me that no man cud eva do! ( devil in disguise our Meaty is!)

26 Jul 2006, 16:47	#26
simon2279 Rookie Join Date: 14.05.2006 Posts: 22	sorry to make you dissapointed paul i only just noticed it the other day! pleased ive been backed up on this one lol

26 Jul 2006, 16:49	#27
simon2279 Rookie Join Date: 14.05.2006 Posts: 22	pleased im not as blind as a bat! lol

26 Jul 2006, 16:49	#28
hayley Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.08.2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,088	This is mad he was out of shot

26 Jul 2006, 16:50	#29
simon2279 Rookie Join Date: 14.05.2006 Posts: 22	honestly its true!!!

26 Jul 2006, 16:51	#30
Paul191 Mega Loafer Join Date: 26.11.2005 Location: Posts: 1,530	Watch Meat's mouth just before it cuts aswell because you will notice that it is out of sequence.

26 Jul 2006, 17:20	#33
Ankie Office manager Join Date: 25.04.2002 Posts: 1,883	Play it nice, folks.

26 Jul 2006, 19:08	#35
samurai7 Rock Star Join Date: 09.05.2005 Location: The future... Posts: 2,928	The sound on the MSO DVD is mastered up to DTS 5.1 quality. There is tons of compression on the vocals, so even if Meat does take the mic away, the voice will still be heard. However, there are obviously some 'overdubs'. The show was recorded over two nights, right? They took the best bits of BOTH nights and edited them together. Say for instance, he sang the chorus of a song better on night 2, but the verse better on night 1?! Simple - mix them together, then put this 'new' audio mix on top of the filmed footage. END OF DEBATE. Sean

26 Jul 2006, 19:35	#37
allrevvedup "Most things that i worry about, never happen anyway" Join Date: 29.11.2003 Location: Liverpool Posts: 5,351	Apparantly at one of the half time shows a couple of years ago someone noticed that Shania Twain's vocals sounded a bit too perfect in parts (ie like the original song) the article (think it was on msn.com) basically went on to say that they had the original track playing on the soundboard and if any note is sounding flat they push up the original lyric with the sound delay. This may or may not be something Meat has done on the MSO dvd, who knows...I did notice it on ICHSIBM on the slow part ('then you say nothing at all, so many times etc..) when it gets to Meat's line 'Well i couldn't have said it better myself' and patti goes on with 'now you finish me off...', that meats voal sounded a bit too like the original. I think that was the only time though. At the end of it all who cares, the man doesn't mime everything like a lot of pop artists and it was because of the effort that he was putting into the live vocal that he collapsed on stage. So i'll take 99.999999% live vocal and the rest original sound anyday.

26 Jul 2006, 19:39	#39
sunneke Mega Loafer Join Date: 17.01.2006 Location: Amersfoort Posts: 2,263	i don't really mind it... he took the best of 2 nights and made a fantastic dvd of it.... nothing wrong i think?