Rolling Stones Magazine - "Album Cover Way Better Than The Music"

[rockfenris2005]

Originally Posted by Mike Piercy

Rolling Stone used to be a highly credible magazine but after a "review" which doesn't actually review the content I wouldn't buy it again.

Based on one review????

[Jayd]

Originally Posted by rockfenris2005

That still has nothing to do with the fact that it's one of the most iconic magazines in the music industry.

Eh, who said anything about it not being 'iconic'. I didn't. I said I think it is a rubbish magazine, and don't like it, that is my opinion, which I am entitled to. I don't have to like it because it is 'iconic' and neither does anybody else.

[MeatGrl1]

It amazes me how people can be so cruel!

Meat please do not take those comments to heart, we love you here!

[allrevvedup]

I would imagine Meat cares little about what the media reviews are of the album but then again who knows

Either way there's no such thing as bad publicity and this review will either put people off or make them want to buy/sample the album to see if it really is the way the review says

But that would've been the case with or without the review

[Paul191]

Originally Posted by rockfenris2005

He doesn't care. Wish his fans would feel the same

I know they've always hated Meat and 'NO' I won't feel the same as Meat. I suppose you can call me a Meat fan. Oh, and did I mention that the magazine is a load of cow turd.

[ChoccyBat]

I think it is excellent - the crticism that is! Bat I was slated, and Meat Loaf was called the "worst rock band in the world". That album went on to sell the odd copy or two .

Meat is renegade and different - to some people you just say "Meat Loaf" and they snigger. But most admit to owning at least one of his albums. And ALL know who he is - that says something, 30 years after his career started!

He's selling out arena tours 30 years on, he must be doing something right.

[Paul191]

Originally Posted by ChoccyBat

I think it is excellent - the crticism that is! Bat III was slated, and Meat Loaf was called the "worst rock band in the world". That album went on to sell the odd copy or two .

Meat is renegade and different - to some people you just say "Meat Loaf" and they snigger. But most admit to owning at least one of his albums. And ALL know who he is - that says something, 30 years after his career started!

He's selling out arena tours 30 years on, he must be doing something right.

Exactly!!!!!!!!!! and that S**T magazine 'Rolling Stone' think they have the right to slate his album covers and music!

About 95% of the music they rate as 'exellent' hasn't sold even half as much as the original Bat and that says something. They wouldn't know good music if it came a plopped on their face.

[wenners]

Originally Posted by Paul191

Exactly!!!!!!!!!! and that S**T magazine 'Rolling Stone' think they have the right to slate his album covers and music!

About 95% of the music they rate as 'exellent' hasn't sold even half as much as the original Bat and that says something. They wouldn't know good music if it came a plopped on their face.

I have read some tosh on here but this comes close to taking the biscuit.

Of course they have a right to slate any ones album covers and music they are a music publication.

A good album will succeed on its own merits and time is the best judge of that

what you seem to forget is when all previous albums have come out they have bucked the current music trends of the time i.e. disco, punk etc.

do you think people are swayed by thier coments. apparenty somewhere between 30-50 million people have bought the original Bat out of hell depends on where you get the stats from. do you think any of them paid attention to the following review in RS in 1977?

He knew a lot didnt he?

RS quote>

Meatloaf earned his somewhat eccentric name as a performer in the Rocky Horror Show, the theatrical torture, although he had previously spent several years as a rock singer in Detroit, even recording a single or two for Motown. Bat Out of Hell reflects such diversity, but can't resolve it. Meat Loaf has an outstanding voice, but his phrasing is way too stage-struck to make the album's pretensions to comic-book street life real. He needs a little less West Side Story and a little more Bruce Springsteen.
Jim Steinman, who wrote and arranged the entire album, needs a lot less of both. Some of the songs here, particularly "You Took the Words Right Out of My Mouth," are swell, but they are entirely mannered and derivative. Steinman is wordy, and his attempts to recapture adolescence are only remembrances; he can't bring out the transcendently personal elements that make a song like "Night Moves," an obvious influence here. The arrangements aren't bad, although they play into the hammiest of Meat Loaf's postures, and the playing is excellent, led by pianist Roy Bittan and drummer Max Weinberg of Springsteen's E Street Band and producer Todd Rundgren's guitars. But the principals have some growing to do. (RS 254)

[djfierce]

i always believed that what made meat so special was that you couldnt pigeon hole him, this mag doesnt seem to like that. After all how can they compare it if there is nothing like it!!

They hated the first one - the fans loved it creating a huge following
They didnt really like the second one - we did
They don't like the third one - Hmm i feel a trend coming on!

In my view this article can only help.
As for the comments from readers? i doubt any of them have actually listened to a meat song properly, any sceptic i have ever played my faves to have always changed their mind!! And if they have thats fine!! Its a very simple process, they don't have to buy the album!

[Jayd]

Originally Posted by wenners

Do you think any of them paid attention to the following review in RS in 1977?

He knew a lot didnt he?

RS quote>

Meatloaf earned his somewhat eccentric name as a performer in the Rocky Horror Show, the theatrical torture, although he had previously spent several years as a rock singer in Detroit, even recording a single or two for Motown. Bat Out of Hell reflects such diversity, but can't resolve it. Meat Loaf has an outstanding voice, but his phrasing is way too stage-struck to make the album's pretensions to comic-book street life real. He needs a little less West Side Story and a little more Bruce Springsteen.
Jim Steinman, who wrote and arranged the entire album, needs a lot less of both. Some of the songs here, particularly "You Took the Words Right Out of My Mouth," are swell, but they are entirely mannered and derivative. Steinman is wordy, and his attempts to recapture adolescence are only remembrances; he can't bring out the transcendently personal elements that make a song like "Night Moves," an obvious influence here. The arrangements aren't bad, although they play into the hammiest of Meat Loaf's postures, and the playing is excellent, led by pianist Roy Bittan and drummer Max Weinberg of Springsteen's E Street Band and producer Todd Rundgren's guitars. But the principals have some growing to do. (RS 254)

Well no one must have paid much attention, if this album went on to be one of the best selling albums of all time. What Meat and Jim did, back then was different, very different, and that is what people liked. Same with Bat 2, it was different back in 1993, and again, Bat 3, is different to what people are listening to right now, because all the albums are catchy, there is something there, that makes people say, 'Mmmmmm, that's rather good'.

Not every publication, is gonna like Meat's style. And he knows, whatever he does, he is gonna get some sort of criticism.