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Old 09 May 2003, 18:01   #51
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Total Pandermonuim!! Typical Meat Loaf!!
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Old 09 May 2003, 18:06   #52
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Hi Ben,

Could you please tell me WHAT that long/unknown word means
I am Dutch and this word is just too difficult for me

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But good to hear you enjoyed it too!!
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Old 09 May 2003, 18:36   #53
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I am English and I have no idea what Pandermonuim means! :)

However pandemonium means chaos, confusion, uproar
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Old 09 May 2003, 18:59   #54
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Pandemonium! Not Pandermonium!

It means: "all of demons" or "confusion"!
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Old 09 May 2003, 23:02   #55
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I am English and I have no idea what Pandermonuim means! :)

However pandemonium means chaos, confusion, uproar
Sorry guys, spelling has never been my strong point!

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Old 10 May 2003, 03:38   #56
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I am English and I have no idea what Pandermonuim means! :)

However pandemonium means chaos, confusion, uproar
Sorry guys, spelling has never been my strong point!

That's ok Ben .. I knew what you meant
And you're absolutely right .. what a riot !!

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Old 10 May 2003, 05:12   #57
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I finally watched the webcast, that was clearly not to be missed! Meat was most assuredly the life of the party! I can't imagine the soul deadening drudgery of sitting through the whole thing to see Meat- those of you who did are seriously dedicated! Is Meat's exagerated US Southern accent lost on native Brits? He sounded like a crazed televangelist. Very cool how they worked the song titles in at the end.

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Old 10 May 2003, 21:16   #58
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Sherrie87 asked:
Is Meat's exagerated US Southern accent lost on native Brits? He sounded like a crazed televangelist.

I doubt it We're generally I suspect better at distinguishing different American accents than Americans are at identiying British regional accents .. and better at understanding them than you would, say a Geordie, a Scot or a cockney.. didn't they say that many people in the US couldn't follow what was being said in the Full Monty? .. and that was just the Sheffield accent ..

Quite apart from the amount of American TV we have broadcast, a pretty fair percentage of Britons will have visited the US .. so most of us would recognise a deep South accent and possibly even distinguish it from the softer Carolinas .. and certainly associate it with evangelists, particularly the tv variety .. who was it that said "If God does decide to send a personal message to the world he will NOT choose a balding overweight man in an expensive suit from the deep South of the USA to deliver it!! " .. :)

But Meat can certainly portray one with some considerable skill!! :)
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Old 11 May 2003, 06:36   #59
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Meat's definately putting alot more emphasis on his Southern accent in his promo interviews this year, he's killing interviews, eg. Des&Mel, Kelly Show, TOTP, what the hell is that all about, he is so not being himself in the promotional tour. Why does he feeel the need to destroy interviews, when he's asked questions he goes all around the world to answer them. He's gone way too hyper this year.
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Old 11 May 2003, 09:01   #60
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Meat's definately putting alot more emphasis on his Southern accent in his promo interviews this year, he's killing interviews, eg. Des&Mel, Kelly Show, TOTP, what the hell is that all about, he is so not being himself in the promotional tour. Why does he feeel the need to destroy interviews, when he's asked questions he goes all around the world to answer them. He's gone way too hyper this year.
That's Meat as we all know him! And remember, he's an actor first and foremost (as he's said so himself), so even if he isn't "being himself", he's being someone else!

I think his accent has changed in the past 25+ years. I watched an interview in which both Meat and Jim were being interviewed, and his accent was a lot more `southern' then. He came from Texas of course.
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Old 11 May 2003, 09:25   #61
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Good Lord .. I didn't see the Kelly Show, but I'm pretty sure I've caught everything else Meat's done on UK TV and radio (and much of what he's done in mainland Europe) to promote the album .. so there must be an accent filter on my sets as I have only heard him use a Southern accent to deliver particular phrases/sentances for effect! He would have made a great living as a televangelist .. a character he has visited frequently in his recent tours, and to be honest the only time I hear him give full rein to his southern accent.

One of the things I always remark on is how far he has lost his original Texas twang. His diction is excellent, his accents in films always spot on (just consider and compare Fight Club, Focus, Everything That Rises, Black Dog and Crazy in Alabama) .. and only when he is excited do his origins show through unbidden :) Although the final word in Decadent Wish comes through with a strong and delightful Texas stamp

Meat Loaf the on stage performer is, and always has been, over the top so I would expect that. He's also quick, very funny and very entertaining imo, and this round of promotional appearances has been no exception. He has said he finds TV scary, and his way with interviews has always been to take control, in much the same way as he does on stage where he will stalk on and put his stamp on the situation and audience from the onset .. a perfect example of ecopower which his audiences usually love and respond to with enthusiasm. He is the Man .. the Rock God .. and they cheer wildly and acknowledge it! Even in the Storytellers tour, in which I think he undertook a series of polished and relaxed interactive and very funny evenings with an audience, he still strode the boards a bit at the onset to make his mark and establish his ownership of the situation.

And none of this is surprising given his off-stage persona. "Meat Loaf" is this larger than life character that the self-confessed quiet and rather shy Michael Aday takes on stage, and generally the one that the audience has come to see perform. It's the one that he uses to psych himself and the band up before a performance, in much the same way as an American football captain will psych up his team .. and indeed Meat says he approaches a show in much the same way as he would a football game .. it's all part of calling up that intense focus which enables him to give 150% at every concert.

Interestingly I saw least evidence of his needing to take control of an interview on the Richard and Judy Show on Channel 4, when I thought Meat was probably the most relaxed I'd seen him in a TV interview ... he seemed comfortable and easy without losing any of the zestful and enthusiastic storytelling spirit which is his trademark ... although the old competitive spirit did come rushing in at the end when they were playing that variation of conkers with eggs

So .. is Meat too hyper this year? Not as far as I'm concerned .. he's just being "Meat Loaf". Is he not being himself? .. well yes. He has always said his fans would be amazed at his off-stage persona, and that this is not what they have come to see. He has delivered the on-stage Meat who has been invited to appear and who is expected to appear; expected by both interviewers and audience alike imo.

And is he killing/destroying interviews this year? .. I don't think so. He has done what he has always done, and the response from audiences like those at the Des and Mel show would indicate they love it .. and love every minute
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Old 11 May 2003, 13:56   #62
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I have just come in from taking a lady somewhere by car. I was playing the new Meat album. She said how she liked his singing but said his interviews were awful - so loud and noisy. Turns out she had seen him on "Des and Mel" and "Richard and Judy" So the recent typical Meat interview is not going to come across well to everyone. The fans will still love it (well most fans most of the time) - the only point I would make is that in such interviews it is not the committed fan that Meat is trying to appeal to - it is the television audience. If you go on shows like "Des and Mel" and "Richard and Judy" do you not have to "play the part" and appeal to that programmes audience? I certainly think the play acting has been rather "over the top" on some recent occasions considering the programme.

And as for that "skit" on Top Of The Pops! Well I happened to be watching that show at my sister's. It made me cringe. My sister who likes Meat thought it was stupid. I was so embarrassed. I couldn't really then enjoy the song!

But Meat still gets it right a lot of the time. :) On the Janice Long radio show, I thought he came across real well in the interview part - and that evangelistic bit was sensational. Perhaps an experienced interviewer helped there though I was half expecting Janice to thump him at some point for keeping on calling her "Dear"
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Old 11 May 2003, 14:57   #63
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I'm surprised at someone saying he was noisy on the Richard and Judy show .. I watched that and thought he was relaxed and not over the top at all .. and not sure what the "skit" was on TOTP .. unless you mean the band doing their football warcry just before going on .. that's something Meat says they do before every show .. it's about energising and focus .. and it's a contributor to the high energy and wonderful shows they give!!

If Meat played a part that wasn't him many thousands would be disappointed .. and by that I mean the many thiusands who will stream into his sold out shows in the UK this winter.

I think if people like the songs they will buy the album .. and I wouldn't have Meat change his on-stage persona merely to appeal to a few who would cut off their noses to spite their face just because they didn't like something about him in an interview .. he's a decent man, polite, kind, generous .. he doesn't do drugs, he drinks little .. he's gracious and thankful .. he does a lot for charity .. and that comes across in his interviews .. so if he's noisy .. well there's still a lot of admirable qualities to back the singing imo if people want to judge the man as well as the voice ....
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Old 11 May 2003, 15:37   #64
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Don't like much of the new album, only a couple of songs... but he... i'm going to the concert... not only for those new songs. Think that is a bit of a strange idea... that people go to a show just for the new songs. I'm going to a Meat Loaf show for the music, the other songs, the show, the man himself...

Don't think that people will only spend some money cause they like the new songs... do you think?? i mean, i'm not rich.. so.. that's not for me. But maybe you are rich.

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Old 11 May 2003, 15:53   #65
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Don't like much of the new album, only a couple of songs... but he... i'm going to the concert... not only for those new songs. Think that is a bit of a strange idea... that people go to a show just for the new songs. I'm going to a Meat Loaf show for the music, the other songs, the show, the man himself...
Don't think that people will only spend some money cause they like the new songs... do you think?? i mean, i'm not rich.. so.. that's not for me. But maybe you are rich.
I love all the new album, but I'm not sure who has suggested people would go to a concert just for the new songs .. I thought we were talking about whether or not people would buy the new album. I said I think people will buy the album if they like the songs and not be put off by a TV interview .. for they wouldn't be buying that.

And as far as buying the album goes .. I am far from rich, but on a very limited income I can afford the new album whuch comes in at close to half the price of many released over here.
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