Possible scam warning - Page 3

**The Flying Mouse** · 02 Aug 2010, 00:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vickip

I just feel so stupid and gullable right now

You shouldn't Vicki.
It's the nice people, the kind people, the generous people, that make the world a good place to be.
The world would be a much darker place without random acts of kindness.

The thing that makes this kind of scam so succesful is that it takes (IMHO) a seriously sick and deranged mind to even contemplate pretending to have cancer to defraud people.
A lot of decent folk would read his post and take what he said at face value because they simply can't comprehend a state of mind so sick as to lie about having cancer.
That is not gullability.
I think one of the reasons this investigation was so thorough was that I don't believe any of the mod team wanted this to be true.
It is not a nice feeling that this person was a member of our forum.

The biggest victim in all of this, I feel, is the next poor sod who is in genuine need and goes unaided because this con man has made the world the much more cynical.

Vickip · 02 Aug 2010, 00:11

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Originally Posted by Dave

*hugz*

Thanks Dave
*hugz*

AndrewG · 02 Aug 2010, 00:16

This boy needs to read "The boy who cried wolf" before being allowed online again. Failing that has any effect placing him behind bars would be fine with me.

Quote:

The liar will lie once, twice, and then perish when he tells the truth.

Vickip · 02 Aug 2010, 00:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monstro

Bet we all wish we could have a quid/buck for everytime we've been taken in, I know I would.

Next in line with a hug when you're done with Dave!!!

Thanks. Yes you're next

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

You shouldn't Vicki.
It's the nice people, the kind people, the generous people, that make the world a good place to be.
The world would be a much darker place without random acts of kindness.

Thanks Mouse. That's how I feel too.

Quote:

The thing that makes this kind of scam so succesful is that it takes (IMHO) a seriously sick and deranged mind to even contemplate pretending to have cancer to defraud people.
A lot of decent folk would read his post and take what he said at face value because they simply can't comprehend a state of mind so sick as to lie about having cancer.
That is not gullability.
I think one of the reasons this investigation was so thorough was that I don't believe any of the mod team wanted this to be true.
It is not a nice feeling that this person was a member of our forum.

The biggest victim in all of this, I feel, is the next poor sod who is in genuine need and goes unaided because this con man has made the world the much more cynical.

Exactly. It was devastating watching my Dad die of cancer, and I still can't believe someone would lie about having the disease

Wario · 02 Aug 2010, 00:23

Do you think their should be a rule instated about this money thing? Maybe something along the lines of "no asking other users for money" or something?

Just a suggestion.

~Helen~ · 02 Aug 2010, 00:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vickip

I just feel so stupid right now

Sometimes I'm too gullable ... but I should have known better.

Thanks for taking care of this all of the mods did a great job.
Vicki

Not gullible, kind-hearted and caring. And it's a nice trait not a bad one that you are trusting enough not to assume anyone who comes along with a sorrow story isn't having you on - like many of us did (and let's face it, it's not a nice world to be in where you can't believe that kind of story until you have some evidence ... even then, some of us may still be too skeptical to believe).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monstro

Bet we all wish we could have a quid/buck for everytime we've been taken in, I know I would.

Ha yeah I second that.

Vicki sorry to hear how this has affected you, but certainly don't blame yourself for someone else's actions!

~Helen~ · 02 Aug 2010, 00:39

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Originally Posted by Monstro

On the other hand reading a certain thread on another mentioned forum reveals his home address

What sort of clot provides his home address to people he's scamming?

duke knooby · 02 Aug 2010, 00:42

like i said before, theres 3 sides to every story... on this occasion, we appear to have a ~~~~wit, kind and caring people, and a great mod team

Evil One · 02 Aug 2010, 00:44

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Originally Posted by Monstro

Next in line with a hug when you're done with Dave!!!

You want a hug from Dave too?

~Helen~ · 02 Aug 2010, 00:47

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

Do you think their should be a rule instated about this money thing? Maybe something along the lines of "no asking other users for money" or something?

Just a suggestion.

This has its logical side, but I'm sure there have been a few occasions in the past where people have been doing some sponsored event and advertised their sponsorship site here. So maybe it'd need further clarification in a no asking for money to be transferred directly to yourself kind of way.

I don't know.

**The Flying Mouse** · 02 Aug 2010, 00:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

:
The biggest victim in all of this, I feel, is the next poor sod who is in genuine need and goes unaided because this con man has made the world the much more cynical.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

Do you think their should be a rule instated about this money thing? Maybe something along the lines of "no asking other users for money" or something?

Just a suggestion.

I rest my case.

It's never been something we have encouraged , but we have in the past (if I recall) let people have threads concerning sponsored events they are taking part in.
I think we've even stickied those threads for a week or so.
It's not something we've really had a problem with.

Also consider that this guy never actually asked for money.
He asked for advice (hey guys, what can I do), but it was pretty obvious what he wanted.
Then when he PM'd people who offered help, he did not PM them asking them for money (as I understand) rather he was asking "so what are you doing to help me?".
We can ban people from asking for money (and this guy wouldn't even technically come under that category), but we can't exactly ban people for being generous to somebody they think is in need.

It's something for the staff to think on.

**Monstro** · 02 Aug 2010, 00:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

Do you think their should be a rule instated about this money thing? Maybe something along the lines of "no asking other users for money" or something?

Just a suggestion.

Taken under advisement

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Helen~

What sort of clot provides his home address to people he's scamming?

He's not that clever....
'Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive''...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One

You want a hug from Dave too?

Sorry m8, didn't realise I was pushing in, please go first lol

Evil One · 02 Aug 2010, 00:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monstro

Sorry m8, didn't realise I was pushing in, please go first lol

I'll go in the middle and be a human contraceptive!

Pudding · 02 Aug 2010, 01:03

I shared my suspicions of this joker to the mod(s) . Seems once again the Proof was with the Pudding

roomster · 02 Aug 2010, 01:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vickip

I just feel so stupid right now

Sometimes I'm too gullable ... but I should have known better.

I was also fooled by the scam...

So you're not alone

Dave · 02 Aug 2010, 01:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One

You want a hug from Dave too?

Everyone should want a hug from Dave....why not?

carole · 02 Aug 2010, 01:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vickip

I just feel so stupid right now

Sometimes I'm too gullable ... but I should have known better.

Thanks for taking care of this all of the mods did a great job.
Vicki

Don't feel stupid Vicki, just because you were nice enough to offer help to him, and he took advantage of that generosity. I think everyone at some time gets taken in by people like that. Some people can be very convincing when pulling on our heart strings.

Carole

**allrevvedup** · 02 Aug 2010, 01:13

i'm really sorry that people were hurt and affected by this, so called, man who decided to use an absolutely horrendous disease simply to be popular and to take people's money.

the mods had a long discussion as to what should be done and in particular monstro, r, rj and Neil were in contact with this, so called, man trying to find out if this was genuine or a scam.

unfortunately it turned out to be a scam. there are genuine causes that need our help but the likes of this leaves a bad taste in the mouth and will, no doubt, make people a little hesitant when a donation is badly needed next time to a group.

what's worse is this, so called man, is on facebook boasting that he's been banned from here. karma comes around to punish bad people so i'm of the belief it will happen to this, so called, man

Wario · 02 Aug 2010, 01:16

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Originally Posted by allrevvedup

the mods had a long discussion as to what should be done and in particular monstro, r, rj and Neil were in contact with this, so called, man trying to find out if this was genuine or a scam.

Thats why the MLUKFC Mod team is the best MOD team on the internet.

Bubbles · 02 Aug 2010, 01:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

The biggest victim in all of this, I feel, is the next poor sod who is in genuine need and goes unaided because this con man has made the world the much more cynical.

indeed

and regarding that:

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

Do you think their should be a rule instated about this money thing? Maybe something along the lines of "no asking other users for money" or something?

Just a suggestion.

I think there is no need for that. I'd say we should all learn from that story to be more critical and wait until the mods have figured out a way to reassure it's genuine and all is fine.
Things like that do not happen every second week after all, so adding another rule there is not necerssary if you ask me.

And also, adding that rule would make it even harder for the "next poor sod" neil mentioned to get help.

oh, and yes, you mods did a great job on that :)

Evil One · 02 Aug 2010, 01:22

Just out of interest, what is the policy on the mods/admins reading everyones personal messages? It could have turned out that this tosser had been begging those taken in for money via PM. Then again there is the issue of privacy to consider. I assume it's possible for someone to monitor all messages sent from/to a certain member, but would it ever be done?

Pudding · 02 Aug 2010, 01:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by allrevvedup

i'm really sorry that people were hurt and affected by this, so called, man who decided to use an absolutely horrendous disease simply to be popular and to take people's money.

As Caryl rightfully pointed out earlier, anyone who's known someone battling cancer, knows that they get on with the fight and don't broadcast it to gain sympathy or financial help.

24K · 02 Aug 2010, 01:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Helen~

I don't normally do this but will make an exception in this case - couldn't agree more, on all issues. Well said (despite necessity for ^signs

)

LOL..I wish the word ~~~~ing ~~~~ could be used in full flow for the piece of work that has took the piss out of the genuine people on here.

24K · 02 Aug 2010, 01:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vickip

I just feel so stupid right now

Sometimes I'm too gullable ... but I should have known better.

Thanks for taking care of this all of the mods did a great job.
Vicki

Aww Vicki, no, you were not stupid, gullible yes, but so have i been in the past on more than one occasion. Trusted someone then got screwed !
Please don't beat yourself up, you have a kind heart and that is a good quality to have.
I line up to give you a hug, who's next ?

Pudding · 02 Aug 2010, 01:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by 24K

I wish the word ~~~~ing ~~~~ could be used in full flow

Does FUKKING TW@T work for you?

02 Aug 2010, 00:23	#55
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	Do you think their should be a rule instated about this money thing? Maybe something along the lines of "no asking other users for money" or something? Just a suggestion.

02 Aug 2010, 00:42	#58
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,884	like i said before, theres 3 sides to every story... on this occasion, we appear to have a ~~~~wit, kind and caring people, and a great mod team

02 Aug 2010, 01:03	#64
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	I shared my suspicions of this joker to the mod(s) . Seems once again the Proof was with the Pudding

02 Aug 2010, 01:13	#68
allrevvedup "Most things that i worry about, never happen anyway" Join Date: 29.11.2003 Location: Liverpool Posts: 5,351	i'm really sorry that people were hurt and affected by this, so called, man who decided to use an absolutely horrendous disease simply to be popular and to take people's money. the mods had a long discussion as to what should be done and in particular monstro, r, rj and Neil were in contact with this, so called, man trying to find out if this was genuine or a scam. unfortunately it turned out to be a scam. there are genuine causes that need our help but the likes of this leaves a bad taste in the mouth and will, no doubt, make people a little hesitant when a donation is badly needed next time to a group. what's worse is this, so called man, is on facebook boasting that he's been banned from here. karma comes around to punish bad people so i'm of the belief it will happen to this, so called, man

02 Aug 2010, 01:22	#71
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	Just out of interest, what is the policy on the mods/admins reading everyones personal messages? It could have turned out that this tosser had been begging those taken in for money via PM. Then again there is the issue of privacy to consider. I assume it's possible for someone to monitor all messages sent from/to a certain member, but would it ever be done?