Stunning new Springsteen box set! - Page 3

Devil's Son · 27 Aug 2010, 20:27

thanks the spirits my ass is converted

- no wait that's wrong i listen to him before i listen to meat .... mmmmhhh so it's an old love?
btw cool stuff and i noticed the shirts looking better

Julie in the rv mirror · 27 Aug 2010, 21:53

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

do it like me and get your ass converted!

*Whispers in Wario's ear* Psssst....bootlegs....

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

I take it the Darkness box also contains about 7 songs not even the most hardcore Springsteen fans have ever heard of....

Could be that, or it could be he is releasing them under their proper titles, rather than their "bootleg" titles.

Believe it or not, though, a few people are still crabbing about what he left off...

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

The reason the Springsteen studio material boxsets approach works so well is because he has literally written hundreds and hundreds of songs (and recorded most of these at some point) unlike Mr Steinman.

Yeah, didn't Jimmy Iovine say in that clip that they recorded something like 70 songs for Darkness? Bruce's engineer, Toby Scott, said recently that Bruce has at least 100-200 unreleased recorded songs.

Evil One · 27 Aug 2010, 21:57

I suspect Meat would only have 10-20 if we're lucky.

**RadioMaster** · 27 Aug 2010, 22:57

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Originally Posted by Julie in the rv mirror

Believe it or not, though, a few people are still crabbing about what he left off...

lol i read that

AndrewG · 27 Aug 2010, 23:19

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Originally Posted by Julie in the rv mirror

Yeah, didn't Jimmy Iovine say in that clip that they recorded something like 70 songs for Darkness? Bruce's engineer, Toby Scott, said recently that Bruce has at least 100-200 unreleased recorded songs.

I seem to have around 18 "additional" Darkness outtakes, so in addition to what's on Tracks (5) and what's on the original album (10) and the different songs on the new Promise CD (almost 20 - some I already have indeed) the figure of songs indeed starts to head towards 70 but even then there's still enough left for another release potentially.

I believe Bruce had around the same number of songs recorded for The River.

Must say though these boots are sometimes quite bad quality. The version of The Brokenhearted I have sounds like it was re-recorded from the audio in the studio rather than that it is actually from the master tape. So it'd be good to have these in proper quality anyway. I'm guessing most people (including me) never thought to get more Darkness outtakes (in addition to the Tracks ones) in good quality. Really can't see how you can complain about what's potentially been left off.

Having said that! "The Way" is a stunning song in my opinion and I believe that's from the Darkness outtakes, but I could be wrong.
There are two versions known to have been recorded, one a bit faster than the other.

Slow version:

YouTube Video

Faster version:

YouTube Video

**The Flying Mouse** · 27 Aug 2010, 23:26

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Originally Posted by Julie in the rv mirror

Believe it or not, though, a few people are still crabbing about what he left off...

Yeah, they're really, errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, getting screwed

You gotta love the net.

AndrewG · 27 Aug 2010, 23:36

Bruce also stated that he had a "full" rock album worth of songs ready just before the Tom Joad period. I wonder if we have seen the "majority" of those ideas surface so far, doubt it actually.

Julie in the rv mirror · 27 Aug 2010, 23:53

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

Must say though these boots are sometimes quite bad quality. The version of The Brokenhearted I have sounds like it was re-recorded from the audio in the studio rather than that it is actually from the master tape. So it'd be good to have these in proper quality anyway. I'm guessing most people (including me) never thought to get more Darkness outtakes (in addition to the Tracks ones) in good quality. Really can't see how you can complain about what's potentially been left off.

Having said that! "The Way" is a stunning song in my opinion and I believe that's from the Darkness outtakes, but I could be wrong.
There are two versions known to have been recorded, one a bit faster than the other.

Bruce could throw open the vault door and say "Help yourself", and somebody would still find a reason to complain.

LOL, "The Way" is one of the songs that people are complaining that he left off, but personally, I think it's overrated (blasphemy, I know

). I like the lyrics, but I think the music's kind of plodding, especially the slow version.

I'm most interested to hear that studio version of "The Promise"- I wonder if it will be the same one that's in circulation? My favorite versions of that song, however, are the live versions from '77- '78.

You're right though- regardless of what songs we get, it will be awesome to have good quality versions, since some boots come from very high generation tapes.

It will also be interesting to see what they have remixed/ re-recorded versus what is original from the time period. For instance, what do you think of the "new" song- "Save My Love"? It sounds like a current vocal to me. (I like it, btw

)

AndrewG · 27 Aug 2010, 23:59

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Originally Posted by Julie in the rv mirror

It will also be interesting to see what they have remixed/ re-recorded versus what is original from the time period. For instance, what do you think of the "new" song- "Save My Love"? It sounds like a current vocal to me. (I like it, btw

)

Indeed that definitely sounds like a newer than 78 vocal to me too!
Who knows, the whole song may have been recorded recently. Maybe one of those instances where what was recorded was simply not good enough/complete enough to release. I don't mind the finishing off at all.
I like it too! Thanks for pointing it out.

YouTube Video

Julie in the rv mirror · 28 Aug 2010, 00:04

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Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

Yeah, they're really, errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, getting screwed

You gotta love the net.

Oh, yeah, some don't like the price, either.

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

Bruce also stated that he had a "full" rock album worth of songs ready just before the Tom Joad period. I wonder if we have seen the "majority" of those ideas surface so far, doubt it actually.

I doubt it, as well.

Personally, I would looove to see "Electric Nebraska"

, but I don't think it will ever happen. I'll settle for an official release of the Magic Tour "Reason to Believe"- that was stunning!

Pudding · 28 Aug 2010, 00:11

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

Having said that! "The Way" is a stunning song in my opinion and I believe that's from the Darkness outtakes, but I could be wrong.

I've never heard this song before and indeed it is stunning. Do you have any 'outtakes' that can be sent via email

GDW · 28 Aug 2010, 10:59

Is this the MLUKFC or BSUKFC? WTF.:roll Maybe you have typed in the wrong name??

duke knooby · 28 Aug 2010, 14:18

its great when people love other performers as well as meat

GDW · 28 Aug 2010, 16:13

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Originally Posted by duke knooby

its great when people love other performers as well as meat

Yeah. You are right. I was just thinking along the Meat Loaf path.

ianmar · 28 Aug 2010, 19:09

There quite a lot of synergy between Springsteen and Meat. Each's album reviews have often included comparisons with the other. I think this is mainly Jim's songwriting but also much to do with Meats passionate delivery.

Funniest (but probably honest) comparison I read was many years ago when a hack from the old UK record paper Sounds wrote:

"While you feel Springsteen would be content to drive round the block with his girl you cant help feel that Meat Loaf would be groping her tits by the first corner."

**RadioMaster** · 28 Aug 2010, 20:18

let's not forget that they also shared quite a number of musicians!

Wario · 28 Aug 2010, 20:28

Have Meat and bruce ever met? Are they rivals? Are they freinds?

Does Bruce feel a little ripped off by Meat and Jim with bat?

Did he like the fact some E Street Band members are on BOOH?

Springsteen should cover All Revved Up. It just would be epic.

They should do a duet version of PFL at a charity event. Just imagine....

**RadioMaster** · 28 Aug 2010, 20:34

the only connection I can think of is that Steinman said in several interviews that Springsteen was one of his bigger influences for BOOH, which is pretty obvious anyway lol

Wario · 28 Aug 2010, 20:35

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

the only connection I can think of is that Steinman said in several interviews that Springsteen was one of his bigger influences for BOOH, which is pretty obvious anyway lol

And Clarence Clemons was borrowed for All Revved Up...

**RadioMaster** · 28 Aug 2010, 20:41

he was? never knew that

Wario · 28 Aug 2010, 20:43

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

he was? never knew that

never mind, Its Edgar Walker.

i could have sworn an e street member or two were used...

AndrewG · 28 Aug 2010, 20:44

According to the Bat credits it was Edgar Winter.

AndrewG · 28 Aug 2010, 20:45

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

i could have sworn an e street member or two were used...

Yes Roy Bittan (piano) and Max Weinberg (drums) were on Bat.

Julie in the rv mirror · 28 Aug 2010, 23:29

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Originally Posted by ianmar

Funniest (but probably honest) comparison I read was many years ago when a hack from the old UK record paper Sounds wrote:

"While you feel Springsteen would be content to drive round the block with his girl you cant help feel that Meat Loaf would be groping her tits by the first corner."

The guy clearly didn't know much about Bruce.

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

Have Meat and bruce ever met? Are they rivals? Are they freinds?

Does Bruce feel a little ripped off by Meat and Jim with bat?

I'm curious about those questions myself. I don't know if they've ever met, but I doubt they're friends. Bruce has never said anything publicly regarding BOOH, AFAIK.

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

Did he like the fact some E Street Band members are on BOOH?

Liked it or not (I doubt he cared), I don't see how he could have prevented it (or would have wanted to). Besides, BOOH was recorded during a time period when Bruce was prevented by a lawsuit from recording anything.

Most of the band members have done other work; I know Roy has done lots of session work on other artists' albums, such as Dire Straits, Bob Seger, Stevie Nicks, to name a few. Ever hear Dire Straits' album "Making Movies"? "Romeo and Juliet" sounds a lot like "Jungleland".

Since we've been posting videos, I thought I'd put this one in so the "unconverted" (and maybe the "converted" as well

) might get a taste of what we're in for with this release. The Houston video should be better quality than this, and in color. Plus, this video is from September- Bruce's guitar solo only evolved and got longer as the tour went on; Houston is from December 1978. (Roy's in here too, so it's sort of ML- related

)

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Wario · 28 Aug 2010, 23:35

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Originally Posted by Julie in the rv mirror

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Corrected Video.

TERRIFIC

27 Aug 2010, 20:27	#51
Devil's Son always behind you Join Date: 09.05.2006 Posts: 1,342	thanks the spirits my ass is converted - no wait that's wrong i listen to him before i listen to meat .... mmmmhhh so it's an old love? btw cool stuff and i noticed the shirts looking better

27 Aug 2010, 21:57	#53
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	I suspect Meat would only have 10-20 if we're lucky.

27 Aug 2010, 23:36	#57
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,077	Bruce also stated that he had a "full" rock album worth of songs ready just before the Tom Joad period. I wonder if we have seen the "majority" of those ideas surface so far, doubt it actually.

28 Aug 2010, 10:59	#62
GDW Super Loafer Join Date: 26.03.2010 Location: Perth Posts: 984	Is this the MLUKFC or BSUKFC? WTF.:roll Maybe you have typed in the wrong name??

28 Aug 2010, 14:18	#63
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,883	its great when people love other performers as well as meat

28 Aug 2010, 19:09	#65
ianmar Rookie Join Date: 29.04.2002 Location: but living in Leeds, England Posts: 24	There quite a lot of synergy between Springsteen and Meat. Each's album reviews have often included comparisons with the other. I think this is mainly Jim's songwriting but also much to do with Meats passionate delivery. Funniest (but probably honest) comparison I read was many years ago when a hack from the old UK record paper Sounds wrote: "While you feel Springsteen would be content to drive round the block with his girl you cant help feel that Meat Loaf would be groping her tits by the first corner."

28 Aug 2010, 20:18	#66
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	let's not forget that they also shared quite a number of musicians!

28 Aug 2010, 20:28	#67
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	Have Meat and bruce ever met? Are they rivals? Are they freinds? Does Bruce feel a little ripped off by Meat and Jim with bat? Did he like the fact some E Street Band members are on BOOH? Springsteen should cover All Revved Up. It just would be epic. They should do a duet version of PFL at a charity event. Just imagine....

28 Aug 2010, 20:34	#68
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	the only connection I can think of is that Steinman said in several interviews that Springsteen was one of his bigger influences for BOOH, which is pretty obvious anyway lol

28 Aug 2010, 20:41	#70
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	he was? never knew that

28 Aug 2010, 20:44	#72
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,077	According to the Bat credits it was Edgar Winter.