Title ideas for Meat's next album.

[misterfive]

After Hot Holidays his next album should be something theatric maybe, "Escape From The Good Old U.S.A"! Similar to HIAH, EFTGOU (Escape From The Good Old U.S.A) would be about how things change.

It would start have the following tracks.

Track 1 - Blood for Love - (6:01) (A song about a man who is dealing with his wife who had his children but continues to sell herself).

Track 2 - I Am Going To Kill You God - (4:23) (A ballad about a man's shattered faith for losing everything chasing his dreams)

Track 3 - Lawyers, Guns, and Money - (4:04) (A cover song he did live that he should reall put on an album)

Track 4 - I Pledge Myself (For What I Can Get) - (3:45) (About a former army man turned mercenary to pay for his back taxes).

Track 5 - Escape From The Good Old U.S.A (Gonna' Make The Scene) - (6:29) (The title song about the American dream "meatloaf and apple pie for desert", and how its becoming a nostalgic feeling).

Track 6 - Slaves Be Damned - (5:54) (A Duet-Ballad with Leonard Cohen but its a pretty crazy song about Abe Lincon returning from the grave to end modern slavery of the working class).

Track 7 - Hear Me In The Night - (2:01) (A short melody about having trust in God and Man "if God is dead and buried, then please brother hear me").

Track 8 - It Is Too Late For Us But It's Not Too Soon - (4:54) (A Closing about how it is too late to help the old and weary of the world but it's not to soon for the next generation. Its basically a plead for change for the better).

So yeah that is what I'd think would make a fitting album for Meat Loaf. Oh and the cover of the album should be Uncle Sam fighting with an angle of death over his open grave.

[CarylB]

I'd say there's not much left for Meat to do .. Except he has already told us he has some songs ready for the next album (and at the time was talking about next spring) and the Christmas album seems more likely to be next year.

Caryl

[misterfive]

He said after his Mad Mad World Tour.

[CarylB]

Originally Posted by misterfive

He said after his Mad Mad World Tour.

And we don't know the date of that, as we don't know whether a tour in the UK next year would be MMW or would have another title more in line with what he's been talking about in the USA for 2013, do we? ... But he has also mentioned recording in February next year, and I doubt any Christmas album would be released in 2012 .. in fact I think 2013 had been mentioned. Imo his decisions on, and recording of his next album is more likely to be before the Christmas album comes out, which by definition would be at the end of any year

Caryl

[misterfive]

Indeed but after Hot Holidays what kind of album would you like to see I am hoping of a Bad Attitude meets Hell In A Handbasket.

[Smithie]

Bat IV

[glamourgirl]

Meat mentioned an announcement in October, so I guess it has something to do with Hot Holidays or maybe some holiday tunes on iTunes.

[renegadeangel]

Originally Posted by Smithie

Bat IV

Renegade Angel
Songs by Jim Steinman

[AndyK]

Originally Posted by misterfive

Indeed but after Hot Holidays what kind of album would you like to see

Meat Loaf: Live at Andy & Lucy's Wedding

[Paul Richardson]

Originally Posted by Smithie

Bat IV

... and there's enough Steinman material already out there to make it happen - they just both need the desire to do it ...

[Elijah's way]

Meat Loaf
Bat Out Of Hell IV
Sex, Drugs And Rock N' Roll

[The Flying Mouse]

Originally Posted by Paul Richardson

... and there's enough Steinman material already out there to make it happen - they just both need the desire to do it ...

Unreleased material?

There was a lot of comment when Meat covered IACBTMN, and I don't think an album of covers would go down too well.

There is a belief that Jim has tons of unreleased material, that it's all A material, and one day it will be let loose on the world.

Although there might be some stuff, I think the ammount and quality is exagerated by hopeful fans.

For one, Jim is famous for recycling lyrics and pieces of music. Who knows how much of this unreleased material we've heard in other songs?

Also, if Jim had a wealth of unreleased material, why would he recycle so much the material that has been released?

I don't doubt that there are some undiscovered jems, but wheather it's enough for an album without any additional work from Jim (who, to my knowledge, has done no work for a long time now) is up for debate.


If Meat and Jim were to work together (which i'd be VERY happy about) i'd rather that it wasn't a Bat album. The trillogy is complete. Once you go past the magic number 3 there is no logical place to stop. If there is no place to stop then the work is never finished. Think of it like a race where the runners keep running and running and running but nobody ever crosses the finish line. They just keep running until they get too tired and stop running and it all ends a bit "meh"

[Paul Richardson]

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

Unreleased material?

I meant 'released' material like:

We're Still The Children
Which Part Of My Body Hurts The Most
Not Allowed To Love
Angels Arise
Graveyard Shift
Braver Than We Are
Who Needs The Young
It Hurts Only When I Feel (ie Break It done justice...)
Souvenirs
Come in the Night

There's enough here, and if Jim has couple of songs hidden away or could write a couple specially, then there could be an album like Bat II, lots of 'recycling' with some new songs thrown in ...

[Paul Richardson]

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

There was a lot of comment when Meat covered IACBTMN, and I don't think an album of covers would go down too well.

I don't think of IACBTMN as a cover ... I really dislike Celine Dion - great singer but zero passion - and I've erased her version from my memory !

Meat has always recycled and reinterpreted Steinman songs which were originally done by others. I don't see any reason why he shouldn't do this now especially if Steinman were producing it.

[Evil One]

Originally Posted by Paul Richardson

I don't think of IACBTMN as a cover

I do. Whether you like Celine Dion's version or not (I don't) there's no escaping the fact that she made the song famous.

[Paul Richardson]

Originally Posted by Evil One

I do. Whether you like Celine Dion's version or not (I don't) there's no escaping the fact that she made the song famous.

I'd prefer to forget she ever did it, but strictly speaking her version was a cover also and Meat's a cover of a cover.

Its all, I think, slightly academic as Meat tends (and I accept IACBTMN is probably not the best example) to make the recycled song his own in any case.

Arguably IACBTMN is no different from It Just Won't Quit, Out Of The Frying Pan & In To The Fire, Rock & Roll Dreams Come Through, Good Girls Go To Heaven, Lost Boys & Golden Girls, The Future Ain't What It Used To Be, Bad For God, Surfs Up, Nowhere Fast, Left In The Dark and Original Sin, all of which had a previous major label release.

[Anubis]

Originally Posted by Paul Richardson

I'd prefer to forget she ever did it, but strictly speaking her version was a cover also and Meat's a cover of a cover.

Its all, I think, slightly academic as Meat tends (and I accept IACBTMN is probably not the best example) to make the recycled song his own in any case.

Arguably IACBTMN is no different from It Just Won't Quit, Out Of The Frying Pan & In To The Fire, Rock & Roll Dreams Come Through, Good Girls Go To Heaven, Lost Boys & Golden Girls, The Future Ain't What It Used To Be, Bad For God, Surfs Up, Nowhere Fast, Left In The Dark and Original Sin, all of which had a previous major label release.

Yes CD made it bought the song into the main streem, but I do not think it was not the best verson, on the other hand , as much as I like MR, for me IACBTMN didn't work as a duet- pandora's box was the best verson.

As much as I like Bat III, I think it din't have the same vibe as the first two, and i think jims absence controbuted to that.

If Meat was was goning to Recycle some of Jim's matiral i'd like to see 'Loving you's a dirty job' done with Patti.

[Mr. Happy]

Originally Posted by Anubis

If Meat was was goning to Recycle some of Jim's matiral i'd like to see 'Loving you's a dirty job' done with Patti.

I'd also love to hear this. Maybe without the ginormous outro, though. You could trim two or three minutes off the end of this one (maybe ever more) without anyone noticing I'd also love to hear Meat take a crack at Tonight Is What It Means To Be Young. This seguing into We're Still the Children would make the perfect finale for an album.

Also, Jim apparently does have a vault secreted away somewhere. Rob Evan did an interview a while back claiming he'd heard stuff out of it (such as a song called Vaults of Heaven, to the tune of Fur Sarah). So there may be hope yet.

To drag this back OT, though, how about...

Meat Loaf:
Come in the Night
Songs by Jim Steinman

With the songs mentioned by Paul above, minus Graveyard Shift (half the song is Bad for Good) and with Loving You is a Dirty Job and Tonight is What It Means to Be Young. Doesn't have to be Bat 4

[Anubis]

Originally Posted by Mr. Happy

I'd also love to hear this. Maybe without the ginormous outro, though. You could trim two or three minutes off the end of this one (maybe ever more) without anyone noticing I'd also love to hear Meat take a crack at Tonight Is What It Means To Be Young. This seguing into We're Still the Children would make the perfect finale for an album.

Also, Jim apparently does have a vault secreted away somewhere. Rob Evan did an interview a while back claiming he'd heard stuff out of it (such as a song called Vaults of Heaven, to the tune of Fur Sarah). So there may be hope yet.

To drag this back OT, though, how about...

Meat Loaf:
Come in the Night
Songs by Jim Steinman

With the songs mentioned by Paul above, minus Graveyard Shift (half the song is Bad for Good) and with Loving You is a Dirty Job and Tonight is What It Means to Be Young. Doesn't have to be Bat 4

I would love to hear Meat do TIWIMTBY as well.

To drage this back myself I was thinking to keep with the sequence but Not a Bat album, how about

Meat Loaf: 'WAITING FOR HEAVEN'

[misterfive]

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

Unreleased material?


:

What about "A Kiss Is A Terrible Thing To Waste" (1985 Demo)

The best unreleased Steinman song in my opinion outside of the Everly Brothers.

[The Flying Mouse]

Originally Posted by misterfive

What about "A Kiss Is A Terrible Thing To Waste" (1985 Demo)

The best unreleased Steinman song in my opinion outside of the Everly Brothers.

Meat's already sang it.

[loaferman61]

Originally Posted by Paul Richardson

I meant 'released' material like:

We're Still The Children
Which Part Of My Body Hurts The Most
Not Allowed To Love
Angels Arise
Graveyard Shift
Braver Than We Are
Who Needs The Young
It Hurts Only When I Feel (ie Break It done justice...)
Souvenirs
Come in the Night

There's enough here, and if Jim has couple of songs hidden away or could write a couple specially, then there could be an album like Bat II, lots of 'recycling' with some new songs thrown in ...

I was told that Jim had a song called "You Break It, You Buy It" but it was apparently lost or somewhere incomplete. There are thousands of cliche's, signs, etc. to draw from, LOL. Personally I doubt he's done anything in years, maybe a gem stashed someplace though. The list above is all we know for sure.

[loaferman61]

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

Meat's already sang it.

The demo is not like the one Meat recorded.

[Paul Richardson]

Originally Posted by loaferman61

Personally I doubt he's done anything in years, maybe a gem stashed someplace though.

The fact is there are enough songs already written - they just need to bury the hatchet and do it !!!

[The Flying Mouse]

Originally Posted by Paul Richardson

The fact is there are enough songs already written - they just need to bury the hatchet and do it !!!

AS we saw at the SWHOF induction, there doesn't seem to be any hatchet to bury.

It's just the age old problem of getting Jimmy to get his ass into the studio.

Maybe he's not well enough, or maybe he just can't be arsed anymore and wants to enjoy a richly deserved retirement, but he just doesn't seem to want to do anything.

It's not an issue of bad blood.