new meat site is up and running

[goodhip]

althogh there is very little available on the website i paid the $40 very happly and i have the choice in a years time not to renew if i am not happy with it same as any person has that choice on any sites i feel sorry for thse who find it to much to pay out but it is all done to presonnal choice how people spend there money if you want to join then join if not stop complaing please and finding excuses people are free to say and do what they want have a little respect

[Gez]

That's a deep breath.

May I suggest comma's, full stops etc the next time .
WHERE'S MY INHALER

[goodhip]

if i had any idea, where the. right place Was i would, fill them in

[Gez]

Think of a dartboard........aim.......and away they go .

I mean (comma) does it really matter (full stop)

[goodhip]

But i have a problem hitting the dart board so there is no hope for me.

[AndyK]

Before this thread is dragged kicking and screaming back on topic, may I recommend "Eats, Shoots and Leaves" by Lynne Truss? An excellent and humourous book; all about punctuation

[Gez]

Originally Posted by AndyK

Before this thread is dragged kicking and screaming back on topic, may I recommend "Eats, Shoots and Leaves" by Lynne Truss? An excellent and humourous book; all about punctuation

I hope that isn't the PANDA thing

[goodhip]

eats shots and leaves ok is this available at all leading book store or should got talk to the panda i have living next door

[The Flying Mouse]

We really need to get this thread back on topic

So, a few random thoughts.

Ok, the membership fee works out at approx £30.00, but don't forget that membership of mlukfc for Europe is £24.50, and £27.00 for the rest of the world, so really there is not much difference in price.

I supose it comes down to what do I get for my money?

There are extra benefits open to full members of MLUKFC.A welcome pack, the fabulous RVM, and other extras like merchandise and M&G allocation.Although what will happen for future M&G's will be interesting to see.

Although I don't doubt that there will be extra benefits available to members, it would be useful for the new site to make them a little clearer.
OK.You get a welcome pack, and there are other very interesting features on the site (box office for instance, which I think will be a great idea ), but after the welcome pack arrives, What do I get?News letters through the post?Something that takes time and effort to produce?
What do I get in my hand?

There is also the question of how the subscriptions are spent, and who is running this new site.

On one hand, it's none of our buisness.You pay for what you get.If Meat get's the money, it's his buisness.If Meat's managment make money, that's what they're there for.
If you don't like it, nobody's putting a gun to your head to join.

In the past, Meat's fan clubs have been run by the fans for the fans.On a completly volentary basis.
I must say that I like that approach.I like the interaction between fans.If you get in touch with the fan club, you know your talking to another fan who shares your interest and enthusiasm.Somebody who is actually happy to hear from you.Not somebody who is dealing with you because it's their job.

IF the people running Meat's site are professionals, they are obviously being paid for their services.And as I say, nothing wrong with that.Professionals are there to be paid, but I think the fans have done a good enough job of meeting the fans needs.

This site for instance.Not one member of the fan club or forum staff get any money for what we do.It's a labour of love.So in return, fan club members know that every penny of their subscription is put right back into giving the fans the best club we can.

A professionally run club cannot do that.They have more expences in terms of who is running the site.
But is more professional mean a better site?Not necerserally.After all, when's the last time this site was neglected by the staff in any way?Moderators are hopping on and off the forums all day.


To sum up how I feel, I think the new fan club looks good.I dare say i'll be joining up in the near future.
But there's a two way street between an artist and his fans.
We were privilidged to have Meat here while the promo was running.We were given information before even the record companies new about it (the final track list for CHSIB for instance), but we the fans responded to him too.We answered the call and ran out and bought singles, we called radio stations, and went every extra mile we could to get some decent promo for the album.These are ends a record company or managment wont go to.
I would be very disapointed if Meat stopped visiting other fan sites to keep his presence exclusivly for the new site.
That I think WOULD be putting a gun to people's heads.

[Di]

Originally Posted by THE FLYING MOUSE

We really need to get this thread back on topic

So, a few random thoughts.

Ok, the membership fee works out at approx £30.00, but don't forget that membership of mlukfc for Europe is £24.50, and £27.00 for the rest of the world, so really there is not much difference in price.

I supose it comes down to what do I get for my money?

There are extra benefits open to full members of MLUKFC.A welcome pack, the fabulous RVM, and other extras like merchandise and M&G allocation.Although what will happen for future M&G's will be interesting to see.

Although I don't doubt that there will be extra benefits available to members, it would be useful for the new site to make them a little clearer.
OK.You get a welcome pack, and there are other very interesting features on the site (box office for instance, which I think will be a great idea ), but after the welcome pack arrives, What do I get?News letters through the post?Something that takes time and effort to produce?
What do I get in my hand?

There is also the question of how the subscriptions are spent, and who is running this new site.

On one hand, it's none of our buisness.You pay for what you get.If Meat get's the money, it's his buisness.If Meat's managment make money, that's what they're there for.
If you don't like it, nobody's putting a gun to your head to join.

In the past, Meat's fan clubs have been run by the fans for the fans.On a completly volentary basis.
I must say that I like that approach.I like the interaction between fans.If you get in touch with the fan club, you know your talking to another fan who shares your interest and enthusiasm.Somebody who is actually happy to hear from you.Not somebody who is dealing with you because it's their job.

IF the people running Meat's site are professionals, they are obviously being paid for their services.And as I say, nothing wrong with that.Professionals are there to be paid, but I think the fans have done a good enough job of meeting the fans needs.

This site for instance.Not one member of the fan club or forum staff get any money for what we do.It's a labour of love.So in return, fan club members know that every penny of their subscription is put right back into giving the fans the best club we can.

A professionally run club cannot do that.They have more expences in terms of who is running the site.
But is more professional mean a better site?Not necerserally.After all, when's the last time this site was neglected by the staff in any way?Moderators are hopping on and off the forums all day.


To sum up how I feel, I think the new fan club looks good.I dare say i'll be joining up in the near future.
But there's a two way street between an artist and his fans.
We were privilidged to have Meat here while the promo was running.We were given information before even the record companies new about it (the final track list for CHSIB for instance), but we the fans responded to him too.We answered the call and ran out and bought singles, we called radio stations, and went every extra mile we could to get some decent promo for the album.These are ends a record company or managment wont go to.
I would be very disapointed if Meat stopped visiting other fan sites to keep his presence exclusivly for the new site.
That I think WOULD be putting a gun to people's heads.

Well thought out post; thought provoking and straight from the heart. This was a pleasure to find. I have a lot of admiration for a person who will climb out on a limb alone, and say his peace in a manner that is so subjective and self honest.

Thank you for the morning read,

Di

[Pudding]

I have absolutely no problems whatsoever on spending money to join a fan club if it is money well spent.

So far there has been no indication on any future projects by Meat Loaf, so that's the news section blown away.
There's been no indication on any new merchandise
There's been no indication on the rumoured upcoming DVD or CD
So what exactly do you get for your money? Emotional support and friendship doesn't really cut it with me.

I do take it that a year long membership lasts for a year no matter when you join and not from say January to December only. Because if that's the case then why join now and not join when there's something worth joining for?

Just a rambling thought

Pud

[goodhip]

you do get a full 365 days member ship fpr your money and while it is thin on the ground at the moment i am sure good thihgs will come my only concern do we have to pay wxtra for a leap you just a random thought

[Winston]

Originally Posted by Pudding

I have absolutely no problems whatsoever on spending money to join a fan club if it is money well spent.

So far there has been no indication on any future projects by Meat Loaf, so that's the news section blown away.
There's been no indication on any new merchandise
There's been no indication on the rumoured upcoming DVD or CD
So what exactly do you get for your money? Emotional support and friendship doesn't really cut it with me.

I do take it that a year long membership lasts for a year no matter when you join and not from say January to December only. Because if that's the case then why join now and not join when there's something worth joining for?

Just a rambling thought

Pud

Good call Pud. I'll join when something happens in regards to Meat's music and not his movie career.

[rockfenris2005]

What really irks me (and everyone's been giving great opinions btw) is if Meat Loaf will hop online and give all the little diary entries on the creative process of BAT III, without my being able to read them. This reason, I confess, is very selfish, but HEY, I consider myself a fan and I want to know. And I, as a fan, should have a right to know what's going on every day with BAT III. Then again, I could save $40 and just get the info FOR FREE from Steinman.com....... and this is not advertising, btw.

[gerard359]

Hi all, dont get me wrong cause Im not complaining, i was just wondering has anyone else noticed the complete lack of new content on the website. Like im sure that it wouldnt be too hard to stick a couple of videos on just to let us know that they havent forgot about us???
Any views??? thanks

[madonna123968848]

Hey,

Just out of interest, has Meat been posting much on his new web site? Looks like he is not posting on here at the moment.

Sam.

[Vickip]

Originally Posted by madonna123968848

Hey,

Just out of interest, has Meat been posting much on his new web site? Looks like he is not posting on here at the moment.

Sam.

So far he's only posted a couple of messages in the journal on his new site :) Hopefully he'll post more often when he gets a chance.

Vicki

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Pudding

So what exactly do you get for your money? Emotional support and friendship doesn't really cut it with me.
Pud

Hey Pud.... Couldn't Have Said It Better Myself!!!

I have all the friends and emotional support from the people I chatter with here and on my own message board.

*** EDITED AS I WAS POSTING BASED ON THE FURY OF JUST HAVING SUFFERED THROUGH ANOTHER MORNIC SPEECH BY JOHN KERRY ***
ROCK ON MLUKFC & MIRROROFTHESOUL!!!

Dave

[Alice]

Well, $40 is a lot for some people. Imagine that average salary in Russia for example is $200 a month!

But... if Meat Loaf (his porfessional people) would think a bit and make something like Collector's Club based on this membership - like releasing two full concerts on cds a year for "members only" and sending them out to fans - I would support such thing!

If they had at least 500 members who paid those $40 it would cover all their costs. Printing of 500 cds with reduced booklet (4 pages) doesn't cost much.

(Concerts could go from all the back catalogue of concerts recorded through out Meat Loaf's career, I know he recorded a lot for last 15 years at least.)

I think it would be a great idea...

[badger]

Originally Posted by rockfenris2005

And I, as a fan, should have a right to know what's going on every day with BAT III.

Why?

Just because you are a fan does not mean you have the right to anything.

As a fan I would LIKE to know what is going on with Bat III, but Meat and Jim are well within their rights to keep it locked up and secret until the release date if they really wanted to.

[Di]

I really do not have any strong feelings about Meats official site; but I do think every artist should have one, with a good representation of his work. I am sure his site will grow with time, and it seems to be very professionally laid out. What I have seen in the Meat community especially is that there are a lot of webboards with some overlapping of the community at each. This seems to be for me just another webboard to perhaps keep up with, and the truth is I have only visited it a couple of times and did not stay long.

I wouldn't mind paying the membership fee if I felt interested in joining. But at this point I find what I enjoy and need to know here and at MOTS. MOTS is home, and this is a great place to come as well... and I am enjoying my membership here.

Everyone is different, that is why there are so many varied webboards and approaches to being a fan. Something for everyone, and if a fan is enjoying the official Meat Loaf fan site, that is great.

My pittance,

Di