More detail about the WTTN Special Edition Release - Page 4

evil nickname · 10 Jun 2011, 14:23

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Originally Posted by melon

Ok, minus point 3

how do you explain all that without the technical stuff? ha ha

Ehm, well, you see...

What it comes down to is that the Collectors Edition is just a tiny bit less loud than the original pressing. And if you listen closely enough, you might pick up some minor differences in how the album sounds.

So far I've only listened to the bonus content, but I doubt there will be any noticeable differences. As far as I'm concerned, the old version is perfectly fine.

(Contrast this to the 2006 Collectors Edition of Bat II, which is noticeably a lot louder than the original pressing, and wasn't an improvement at all.)

Vickip · 15 Jun 2011, 23:26

I just got my copy today. I bought it primarily for the DVD, and could honestly care less about what songs were / weren't included on the live CD.

I thoroughly enjoyed the Making of interview with Meat, and am thrilled to have both the TOTP and music videos in such a great quality

My only wish is that we could have a true DVD of the Beacon Theater concert, including the songs Original Sin, Not A Dry Eye and Left In The Dark

Evil One · 16 Jun 2011, 00:36

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Originally Posted by Vickip

I just got my copy today. I bought it primarily for the DVD, and could honestly care less about what songs were / weren't included on the live CD

You don't care that they put the studio version of Red Light on it?

Original Sin and Left In The Dark weren't done at the Beacon Theater show. It was just the nine songs on the CD (not AFL or Hot Patootie) and Not A Dry Eye. There was a full show from the Born To Rock tour filmed, I want to say from Berlin but I might be wrong.

Wario · 16 Jun 2011, 01:00

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Originally Posted by Evil One

You don't care that they put the studio version of Red Light on it?

Original Sin and Left In The Dark weren't done at the Beacon Theater show. It was just the nine songs on the CD (not AFL or Hot Patootie) and Not A Dry Eye. There was a full show from the Born To Rock tour filmed, I want to say from Berlin but I might be wrong.

agreed. When i take over the universe and release a remastered cd set it will be this:

DISK 1: WELCOME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD

Where the Rubber Meets The Road
I'd Lie For You
Original Sin
45 Seconds of Ecstasy
Runnin' For The Red Light
Fiesta
Left in the Dark
Not a Dry Eye
Amnesty Is Granted
If This Is The Last Kiss
Martha
Where Angels Sing
Oh What Beautiful Morning
Come Together
Let It Be

DISK 2: LIVE CD, Beacon Theater 1995 except Hot Patootie

Where The Rubber Meets The Road
Midnight at the Lost & Found
Life Is A Lemon
Dead Ringer For Love
Took The Words
All Revved Up
I'd Lie For You
Amnesty is Granted
Not A Dry Eye
Bat Out Of Hell
Hot Patootie (Live in Florida, 1989)

FREE MP3 DOWNLOAD CODE- I'd Do Anything For Love Live in Berlin 1996

DVD 1: In The Neighborhood, and Two music Videos

Life Is A Lemon
Where The Rubber Meets The ROad
I'd Lie For You
Amnesty Is Granted
Took The Words
Not a Dry Eye
Bat Out Of Hell
Not a Dry Eye (Music Video)
I'd Lie For You (Music Video)
Interview on Making of WTTN

DVD 2: Live in Berlin, 1996 Part 1:

Where The Rubber Meets The Road
Midnight at the Lost & Found
Life Is A Lemon
Dead Ringer For Love
You Took The Words
Original Sin
Amnesty is Granted
Not A Dry Eye

DVD 3: Live in Berlin, 1996 Part 2:

I'd Do Anything For Love
Left In The Dark
Paradise By The Dashboard Light
Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad
Bat Out Of Hell
SPECIAL FEATURE: "Help Patti find Bob The Bat" point and click game.

Plus an artwork print, Bob The Bat pinata order form, Replica white jacket Meat wore on stage in 1996, Two posters, and five WTTN Guitar picks.

PRICE:
$79.99 without jacket
$210.95 with jacket

Evil One · 16 Jun 2011, 01:03

All to be announced on Wikipedia two months in advance.

Vickip · 16 Jun 2011, 01:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One

You don't care that they put the studio version of Red Light on it?

No I don't. Like I said before, I really bought the set for the DVD anyway, not the live CD

Quote:

Original Sin and Left In The Dark weren't done at the Beacon Theater show. It was just the nine songs on the CD (not AFL or Hot Patootie) and Not A Dry Eye. There was a full show from the Born To Rock tour filmed, I want to say from Berlin but I might be wrong.

Thanks for clearing that up

On the DVD, they showed brief video clips of Meat singing Original Sin and Left In The Dark. It looked like they were from the Beacon Theater concert, but I could be wrong.

drewhiggins · 16 Jun 2011, 08:02

I bought this yesterday afternoon.

- Dynamics and volume was kept at a decent level and might even be less than the original CD that I have. Always great to see that in a re-issue so many years later (even in an original recording from 2011 because we all know how bad most sound).
- The CD tray and booklet were quite well done what with the tour stuff and single covers.
- Getting the videos and interview I didn't already have. I hadn't even seen the interview before (yeah, I'm new to Meat).

Some things that annoyed me (but of course!) and shouldn't have happened:

- The AFL audio on the main DVD menu. This is WTTN, not Bat 2!!!!
- The live CD; having the studio Red Light on there. WTF, indeed.
- The 'live' videos from ToTP. Honestly, why bother?

Apart from that, it's not too bad but could have been done better. Now they need to do a CHSIB remaster with Unsaid and Decadent Wish included (and all the videos).

melon · 16 Jun 2011, 11:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by evil nickname

Ehm, well, you see...

What it comes down to is that the Collectors Edition is just a tiny bit less loud than the original pressing. And if you listen closely enough, you might pick up some minor differences in how the album sounds.

So far I've only listened to the bonus content, but I doubt there will be any noticeable differences. As far as I'm concerned, the old version is perfectly fine.

(Contrast this to the 2006 Collectors Edition of Bat II, which is noticeably a lot louder than the original pressing, and wasn't an improvement at all.)

Ha ha, thanks

melon · 16 Jun 2011, 11:22

Y-y-ya mean no m-m-masculine?

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

agreed. When i take over the universe and release a remastered cd set it will be this:

DISK 1: WELCOME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD

Where the Rubber Meets The Road
I'd Lie For You
Original Sin
45 Seconds of Ecstasy
Runnin' For The Red Light
Fiesta
Left in the Dark
Not a Dry Eye
Amnesty Is Granted
If This Is The Last Kiss
Martha
Where Angels Sing
Oh What Beautiful Morning
Come Together
Let It Be

DISK 2: LIVE CD, Beacon Theater 1995 except Hot Patootie

Where The Rubber Meets The Road
Midnight at the Lost & Found
Life Is A Lemon
Dead Ringer For Love
Took The Words
All Revved Up
I'd Lie For You
Amnesty is Granted
Not A Dry Eye
Bat Out Of Hell
Hot Patootie (Live in Florida, 1989)

FREE MP3 DOWNLOAD CODE- I'd Do Anything For Love Live in Berlin 1996

DVD 1: In The Neighborhood, and Two music Videos

Life Is A Lemon
Where The Rubber Meets The ROad
I'd Lie For You
Amnesty Is Granted
Took The Words
Not a Dry Eye
Bat Out Of Hell
Not a Dry Eye (Music Video)
I'd Lie For You (Music Video)
Interview on Making of WTTN

DVD 2: Live in Berlin, 1996 Part 1:

Where The Rubber Meets The Road
Midnight at the Lost & Found
Life Is A Lemon
Dead Ringer For Love
You Took The Words
Original Sin
Amnesty is Granted
Not A Dry Eye

DVD 3: Live in Berlin, 1996 Part 2:

I'd Do Anything For Love
Left In The Dark
Paradise By The Dashboard Light
Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad
Bat Out Of Hell
SPECIAL FEATURE: "Help Patti find Bob The Bat" point and click game.

Plus an artwork print, Bob The Bat pinata order form, Replica white jacket Meat wore on stage in 1996, Two posters, and five WTTN Guitar picks.

PRICE:
$79.99 without jacket
$210.95 with jacket

**allrevvedup** · 16 Jun 2011, 13:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewhiggins

I bought this yesterday afternoon.

- Dynamics and volume was kept at a decent level and might even be less than the original CD that I have. Always great to see that in a re-issue so many years later (even in an original recording from 2011 because we all know how bad most sound).

Yeah, I noticed how the levels seem to be different, listened to the collectors edition of the album for the first time yesterday.

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewhiggins

Some things that annoyed me (but of course!) and shouldn't have happened:

- The AFL audio on the main DVD menu. This is WTTN, not Bat 2!!!!

Yeah I didn't get that either, but these things are sent to try us.

After listening to the album yesterday, it brought back some memories of a very good album for me though I'm still not sure why the ballads seem to be lumped together i.e left in the dark followed by Not a dry eye in the house & Martha followed by Where Angels Sing.

What is more apparent to me now is how well Amnesty is Granted works and that I can appreciate the coming together of the Van Halen and Springsteen type sound with Sammy Hagar and Steve van Zandt producing the track.

drewhiggins · 16 Jun 2011, 16:50

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Yeah I didn't get that either, but these things are sent to try us.

It wasn't a serious issue but just one that annoyed me and made me wonder why they do these things apart from trying to keep people focused too on Bat2 and one of his biggest songs (IMO).

After all, compared to AFL to anything on WTTN, people are going to say something from Bat2 first. But then how many of those people out there who don't even know WTTN exists are going to even pick up this album?

Quote:

After listening to the album yesterday, it brought back some memories of a very good album for me though I'm still not sure why the ballads seem to be lumped together i.e left in the dark followed by Not a dry eye in the house & Martha followed by Where Angels Sing.

What is more apparent to me now is how well Amnesty is Granted works and that I can appreciate the coming together of the Van Halen and Springsteen type sound with Sammy Hagar and Steve van Zandt producing the track.

Amnesty was probably the first track that stood out to me with the album first time I ever heard it and it reminds me of an old late-70s track straight away bought up to be more modern-sounding without sounding overproduced. I thought I'd Lie For You was always pretty good and definitely have a soft spot for Martha, Not A Dry Eye and Where Angels Sing. Still it's a fantastic album and even the Diane Warren tracks are good.

I always thought Amnesty or Last Kiss should have been right after Fiesta because it seems to fit a lot better. A street party-themed tune should go right into a fun party track. Not that AIG is a party track but it rocks much harder than LITD or Dry Eye.

loaferman61 · 16 Jun 2011, 21:08

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Originally Posted by allrevvedup

Yeah I didn't get that either, but these things are sent to try us.

It amazes me how people paid to make a living off making this stuff make the most elementary errors. They could get anyone off this board who would know every little detail.

Wario · 17 Jun 2011, 00:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by loaferman61

It amazes me how people paid to make a living off making this stuff make the most elementary errors. They could get anyone off this board who would know every little detail.

precisely. As I said, I hope someone gets fired.

carole · 17 Jun 2011, 03:35

Yay, I just received my copy now.

Carole

Vickip · 17 Jun 2011, 03:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by carole

Yay, I just received my copy now.

Carole

I got my copy from Townsend today too

Enjoy it Carole !!
Vicki

Cherry.Loaf · 17 Jun 2011, 13:41

My version of let it be is a minute long is that right? Or did my itunes just rip it wrong?

unbekannt · 17 Jun 2011, 13:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry.Loaf

My version of let it be is a minute long is that right? Or did my itunes just rip it wrong?

The CD version is 2:27 long (the last 7 seconds are just silence).

melon · 18 Jun 2011, 03:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by carole

Yay, I just received my copy now.

Carole

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vickip

I got my copy from Townsend today too

Enjoy it Carole !!
Vicki

So I should get mine on Monday! YAY

ray-loaf · 29 Jun 2011, 16:42

hi, did everyone recieve a second piece of WTTN artwork from EMI today?

*AndyK* · 29 Jun 2011, 17:10

Yeah I got one this morning.

ray-loaf · 29 Jun 2011, 17:41

an unexpected suprise. very welcome though.

*AndyK* · 29 Jun 2011, 18:25

A little digging has revealed that we were pre-warned about this ...

Kev said here

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Townsend customers will be getting a new extra collectors print. If you've ordered elsewhere, you'll have to check with them.

So it's a kind of apology gift from EMI for the mess up with the live disc.

A Slice Of English · 29 Jun 2011, 18:39

I got mine today. Actually prefer it to the cover print!!

LucyK! · 29 Jun 2011, 18:56

The layout looks a little more thought out than the other print, but again I'm wondering why they've used a promo shot of short-haired Meat from 1998 when there are some fabulous ones from 1995 which were used to promote Neighbourhood at the time

evil nickname · 29 Jun 2011, 18:59

Pics or it didn't happen.

29 Jun 2011, 16:42	#94
ray-loaf Rookie Join Date: 20.05.2006 Location: Boston, Lincolnshire Posts: 17	second artwork hi, did everyone recieve a second piece of WTTN artwork from EMI today?

15 Jun 2011, 23:26	#77
Vickip Mega Loafer Join Date: 07.02.2003 Location: Posts: 8,101	I just got my copy today. I bought it primarily for the DVD, and could honestly care less about what songs were / weren't included on the live CD. I thoroughly enjoyed the Making of interview with Meat, and am thrilled to have both the TOTP and music videos in such a great quality My only wish is that we could have a true DVD of the Beacon Theater concert, including the songs Original Sin, Not A Dry Eye and Left In The Dark

16 Jun 2011, 01:03	#80
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	All to be announced on Wikipedia two months in advance.

16 Jun 2011, 08:02	#82
drewhiggins Loafer Join Date: 11.12.2010 Location: Posts: 69	I bought this yesterday afternoon. - Dynamics and volume was kept at a decent level and might even be less than the original CD that I have. Always great to see that in a re-issue so many years later (even in an original recording from 2011 because we all know how bad most sound). - The CD tray and booklet were quite well done what with the tour stuff and single covers. - Getting the videos and interview I didn't already have. I hadn't even seen the interview before (yeah, I'm new to Meat). Some things that annoyed me (but of course!) and shouldn't have happened: - The AFL audio on the main DVD menu. This is WTTN, not Bat 2!!!! - The live CD; having the studio Red Light on there. WTF, indeed. - The 'live' videos from ToTP. Honestly, why bother? Apart from that, it's not too bad but could have been done better. Now they need to do a CHSIB remaster with Unsaid and Decadent Wish included (and all the videos).

17 Jun 2011, 03:35	#89
carole Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.10.2007 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 2,286	Yay, I just received my copy now. Carole

17 Jun 2011, 13:41	#91
Cherry.Loaf Los Angeloser Join Date: 02.04.2010 Location: Bristol Posts: 1,072	My version of let it be is a minute long is that right? Or did my itunes just rip it wrong?

29 Jun 2011, 17:10	#95
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	Yeah I got one this morning.

29 Jun 2011, 17:41	#96
ray-loaf Rookie Join Date: 20.05.2006 Location: Boston, Lincolnshire Posts: 17	an unexpected suprise. very welcome though.

29 Jun 2011, 18:39	#98
A Slice Of English Guest Join Date: 10.11.2003 Posts: 1,258	I got mine today. Actually prefer it to the cover print!!

29 Jun 2011, 18:56	#99
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	The layout looks a little more thought out than the other print, but again I'm wondering why they've used a promo shot of short-haired Meat from 1998 when there are some fabulous ones from 1995 which were used to promote Neighbourhood at the time

29 Jun 2011, 18:59	#100
evil nickname Guest Join Date: 19.04.2003 Posts: 2,238	Pics or it didn't happen.