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Old 26 Oct 2012, 17:40   #76
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It wasn't your post I posted it about. I just learned that I have a Hurricane to be concerned about (went from yellow advisory, to orange) so I will bid adieu. Best wishes to all East Coast loafers.
Good luck ... stay safe !
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Old 26 Oct 2012, 17:45   #77
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It looks like he wasn't "mic"d up. Or whatever the things in your ears are. They were nowhere near what tehy were last week, I'll put it THAT way.
Maybe the fireworks put him off.
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Old 26 Oct 2012, 17:54   #78
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Maybe people outside the US may not understand but it is in no way "cool" for a celebrity to endorse a conservative.
lol ... Well... Meat HAS said in past... the day he's considered "cool" take him out and shoot him... so... he's safe there... lol ...

What I have issue with is... that the finger pointing, name calling, mud slinging in the circle of politics has become "entertainment" ... There's times I actually cry for a moment for my country and the people in it... There's nothing funny about any of it... As I age... I no longer can appreciate jokes being made about the candidates because I just feel we're in so much trouble... There's troubles all about the world ... It's all too sad ...

Rodney King was a troubled guy always in trouble... but one thing he said always comes to mind when I see issues like this arise... when I see the debating go to anger during political races... and that's ... "Can't we all just get along ?" ... Sometimes I feel that rather than having two candidates competing for being leader of my country, it's two invading countries coming in trying to take over...

Pray to your power for America and all nations of the world ... xo
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Old 26 Oct 2012, 18:00   #79
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lol ... Well... Meat HAS said in past... the day he's considered "cool" take him out and shoot him... so... he's safe there... lol ...

What I have issue with is... that the finger pointing, name calling, mud slinging in the circle of politics has become "entertainment" ... There's times I actually cry for a moment for my country and the people in it... There's nothing funny about any of it... As I age... I no longer can appreciate jokes being made about the candidates because I just feel we're in so much trouble... There's troubles all about the world ... It's all too sad ...

Rodney King was a troubled guy always in trouble... but one thing he said always comes to mind when I see issues like this arise... when I see the debating go to anger during political races... and that's ... "Can't we all just get along ?" ... Sometimes I feel that rather than having two candidates competing for being leader of my country, it's two invading countries coming in trying to take over...

Pray to your power for America and all nations of the world ... xo
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Old 26 Oct 2012, 18:27   #80
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One thing I hate with all this are the freepers (free republic} people "liking" his fb page and trolling it. They come on like Repub attack dogs and try to silence all the people they don't agree with. They do it all the time on CNN, Huffington, and Yahoo, They make sites really ugly and nasty.

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Old 26 Oct 2012, 18:37   #81
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lol ... Well... Meat HAS said in past... the day he's considered "cool" take him out and shoot him... so... he's safe there... lol ...

What I have issue with is... that the finger pointing, name calling, mud slinging in the circle of politics has become "entertainment" ... There's times I actually cry for a moment for my country and the people in it... There's nothing funny about any of it... As I age... I no longer can appreciate jokes being made about the candidates because I just feel we're in so much trouble... There's troubles all about the world ... It's all too sad ...

Rodney King was a troubled guy always in trouble... but one thing he said always comes to mind when I see issues like this arise... when I see the debating go to anger during political races... and that's ... "Can't we all just get along ?" ... Sometimes I feel that rather than having two candidates competing for being leader of my country, it's two invading countries coming in trying to take over...

Pray to your power for America and all nations of the world ... xo
Great post, Sue.

People need a refuge from the fighting and bickering of modern 2-party politics, many seek that in music and entertainment and prefer to keep it that way. I'm one of them.
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Old 26 Oct 2012, 18:37   #82
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I don't care about his political preferences but this was a terrible vocal display. And again YouTube is filled with it. After the AFL debacle and the CA outburst, now Meat seems to have scored another youtube hit

Watching it, for a second I thought Meat is actually vowing for the other guy
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Old 26 Oct 2012, 18:56   #83
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One thing I hate with all this are the freepers (free republic} people "liking" his fb page and trolling it. They come on like Repub attack dogs and try to silence all the people they don't agree with. They do it all the time on CNN, Huffington, and Yahoo, They make sites really ugly and nasty.
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Old 26 Oct 2012, 19:05   #84
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Hell in a Handbasket is a highly political Album and all you seemed to love it.

I dont see how any of you are surprised. 40 Days, Giving Tree, and ESPECIALLY Mad Mad World have a hugely politically motivated atmosphere.

Meat is in a political mood. Had he come straight forward and said HIAHB is a republican rock album hed be slaughtered.
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Old 26 Oct 2012, 19:15   #85
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Hell in a Handbasket is a highly political Album and all you seemed to love it.

I dont see how any of you are surprised. 40 Days, Giving Tree, and ESPECIALLY Mad Mad World have a hugely politically motivated atmosphere.

Meat is in a political mood. Had he come straight forward and said HIAHB is a republican rock album hed be slaughtered.
Well, exactly that. HIAH projects core values, it doesn't say 'Vote for Romney, argue with your friends and family who don't vote for Romney'.

(I highly doubt Chuck D would have wanted to be a part of it, had it truly been a republican rock album. Blue Sky doesn't strike me as leaning that way either, but this is the problem - now people are inevitably going to read things into the songs that may or may not be there).

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Old 26 Oct 2012, 19:17   #86
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Yep.....what did I say? #mylastpost
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Old 26 Oct 2012, 19:22   #87
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Meat endorsing a right wing candidate is not so surprising. It sounds odd to me only because he never sang any political/social content song. We know the carachters Meat plays and we love them, knowing that there is nothing autobiographical. So this thing about Romney comes out of nowhere, and I don't know if it was a good move. Maybe at this point of his life and career he wants us to know "all of him", literally!
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I liken America to a heart attack patient at the moment; they had 8 years where so many things that can damage them were constantly piled on before the heart attack hit and now it's slowly trying to recover by making some strides but not overdoing things because all the problems could come back again and force another collapse.
I think a lot of us are in the same boat

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As for that performance of America the beautiful, if Meat hadn't tried to be 'Meat Loaf' and just sang it, I doubt there'd be the reaction there has been.

Maybe he just got caught up in the moment but I doubt anyone not knowing who he was would've come away from watching that thinking 'Hey, I'd better get me some Meat Loaf albums'
Probably not, but then that wasn't the purpose. As far as I can make out, he went to this immediately after the Cleveland show where he had been on stage for well over two hours, in good voice and giving it everything he had .. and that's not just the view of a few fervent fans, but in published reviews. And I'm sure the same will be said by those who go to the next show, because his voice will be rested again.

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Old 26 Oct 2012, 20:02   #89
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Just to clarify, I have no problem with Meat (or anyone else's) choice of political party. I do however, have a problem with him (or any musician) using his position as a performer to tell others who to vote for.

Of course, it's his life, his career etc. He's free to make that choice. Just personally, as a fan, I wish he hadn't for the reasons I cited earlier (divides the fanbase, colours opinions).

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Old 26 Oct 2012, 20:26   #90
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As much as I disagree with their view points on many things it doesn't really change my opinion on Meat's music
Except it's not Meat's music - largely - its Steinman's ...
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Old 26 Oct 2012, 20:55   #91
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Meat supports Mitt Romney?


Oh

I support Meat whole heartedly as an artist. It doesn't mean I have to agree with his politics.
It's funny that I noticed at least one person, who recently told me that my world is too full of Meat Loaf, go ape shit over Meat's personal political choice
If an artists political leanings effect your enjoyment of their work, then you are much more invested in that artist personally than I am
It's funny that I (among others) who am accused of supporting Meat Loaf the MAN is less effected by Meat's personal life choices.

I'm still backing Obama to kick Romney's ass!



On the general subject of celebrities in politics..............
I don't think it's a good idea. Unless them themselves are running for office of course
As i've said above, I like Meat because he's a great artist. His political views, to me, are about as relevant as Roy Orbison's driving skills. Completly alien to my source of interest
I might as well pick a football team to support based on which football team managers own a Westie

I think for an artist to back a political candidate, they risk alienating part of their fan base. At the same time, I can't see many Romney fans being converted to Meat's music just because of his political support.
For the artist, and some of the fans, no good can come of it

I feel entertainers should be impartial in such things. We are there to entertain the public, not preach to them (unless that's their act ).
Can you imagine a political variety show?

First on the bill is a Labour Singer.
Then we've got a conservative magician (the lib dem is the girl in the yellow frock being sawn in half).
Then it's a BNP stand up comedy act (reading their manifesto)
A Green Party Juggler.
An Indipendant mime.
A Socialist puppeteer.
An anarchist doing origami.
A right wing blogger doing balloon animals.

Followed by the big finish - the ensemble singing Johnny Cash's The One In The Middle Was The One On THe Right.





Some political singers do very well, but again, that's their act. And their act (to me) seems to be "isn't the government we have at this present time a bitch?".
No political singer in the history of anywhere is ever known to be happy.
The lyrics "well this is a bit of alright isn't it?" don't appear often.

But on the other hand, artists have their views and the right to air them if they feel strongly about it.

At the same time, i'll say this.

I've never bought a pair of underpants because someone else wears them.

I've never bought an aftershave named after someone.

I've never stayed at a hotel because it was endorsed by a comedian.

I've never been politically moved by an entertainer. No matter how funny they are, or how hard they rock.


I guess i'm not as starstruck as others


One other thing to remember is that fans of other artists/actors/whatever have gone through far worse than their hero having some barmy political ideas.
I still feel very very sorry for Gary Glitter fans.
To follow an artist for all that time and then to hear something like that.
Now that's trully shaking.

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Old 26 Oct 2012, 21:04   #92
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'This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Red Pony Tours'

Someone is getting particularly sensitive ...
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'This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Red Pony Tours'

Someone is getting particularly sensitive ...
I find that quite ironic.
I'm going to publicly endorse a political candidate, but FFS don't let anyone see it happen
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Old 26 Oct 2012, 21:10   #94
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I find that quite ironic.
I'm going to publicly endorse a political candidate, but FFS don't let anyone see it happen
Is it embarrassment caused by endorsing a poor candidate, or embarrassment caused by poor singing ... ?
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Old 26 Oct 2012, 21:12   #95
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Is it embarrassment caused by endorsing a poor candidate, or embarrassment caused by poor singing ... ?
If it's the candidate, I don't think Meat would have backed him in the first place.
The singing, I don't know because i've not seen the clip.
I just think the red pony is doing it's usual job of clearing anything interesting to fans off youtube
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I find that quite ironic.
I'm going to publicly endorse a political candidate, but FFS don't let anyone see it happen
Amen to that! I agree 100%. If you are going to step into the nasty world of politics by publicly endorsing a candidate, then you need to be ready to take the heat for it.
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Amen to that! I agree 100%. If you are going to step into the nasty world of politics by publicly endorsing a candidate, then you need to be ready to take the heat for it.
I also agree 100%. Never thought that we ever would, but its cool
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Old 26 Oct 2012, 21:22   #98
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Amen to that! I agree 100%. If you are going to step into the nasty world of politics by publicly endorsing a candidate, then you need to be ready to take the heat for it.
I agree, to an extent.
If you put your head above the parapet, expect to get shot at.

But Meat has done ads for A1 Stek Sauce, and Gophone, and i've never bought either of those things either
It seems his influence in these things doesn't effect me very much lol.
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Old 26 Oct 2012, 21:23   #99
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Meat Loaf trending in the top 10 on Twitter. First ive ever seen that
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But Meat has done ads for A1 Stek Sauce, and Gophone, and i've never bought either of those things either
It seems his influence in these things doesn't effect me very much lol.
You can't buy either over here, and neither can you vote for the next President of the United States, so ML's influence is kind of limited over me also
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