Northerners urged to move South

[Pudding]

Here's a story that caught my eye.

Apparently a think-tank has decided that Northern cities such as Liverpool are beyond revival and millions of their residents should move to London and the South East.

I can see their point and I'm a Northerner but now live in one of the most Southern cities on the planet. When you have cities like Liverppol where 26% of the people are sponging off the government (article HERE) and people in the south are paying high taxes so some Northerners can sit on their lazy asses and Southerners are having to employ foreigners to make up the workforce.

The only good thing to come out of this for the Southerners is, at least they'll be shown how to make decent Fish & Chips because because they're pretty clueless

Pud

[Ankie]

Originally Posted by Pudding

The only good thing to come out of this for the Southerners is, at least they'll be shown how to make decent Fish & Chips because they're pretty clueless

Pud

That shows you never were in Holland, Pud.

THERE they know how to make decent chips!!

Realising what you think of other things over here, but this is something you can not deny

[Monstro]

they may make decent chips but all bonus points are lost when they bung mayo on them!!!!!

[RadioMaster]

mayo and or ketchup.....only REAL way to eat them

[Battybarb]

Now in the South you try and find an english fish and chip shop...lol

[Battybarb]

As a Londoner myself ,having visited Liverpool and stayed over as my daughter Jo now lives there with her fiance Neil (( before i upset anyone this is my opinion only)) i have found that northern people are much more friendly and make you much more welcome than southern people and the way i feel now i would not mind moving there myself.The last couple of years in Liverpool there has been a lot of improvement lots and lots of new places ,shops etc..

[Ankie]

Originally Posted by Monstro

they may make decent chips but all bonus points are lost when they bung mayo on them!!!!!

So many things you can ask for to have with it.
Ketchup is available too!! (have seen it myself at the HMH!!)

[Pudding]

Originally Posted by Ankie

That shows you never were in Holland, Pud.

THERE they know how to make decent chips!!

Realising what you think of other things over here, but this is something you can not deny

Yes I've been to Holland but I was talking more about South England not Holland

Pud

[Battybarb]

Pud i really really like your avatar..its great..

[geordieloaf]

Can't see me living down south, whoever came up with this rubbish really need's to take a reality check. The south is more like another country, too many different nationality's and i would say the real England is right here up north!

[Battybarb]

I agree with you totally and im from down south...lol

[Siobhan]

I used to live in London but now I'm about as far south as you can get in Southampton. Imo the chips in London are much better but the people are less friendly and I would class London on its own - I never really thought of it as south but thats just me

[~Helen~]

that's because if you're in southampton, london is north

it's south to us good old northerners

[The Flying Mouse]

So the plan is to move everyone from the North to the South?
So the entire population of the country can live in an area less than half the size of the country?

If the situation is as bad as this "think tank" suggests, then the solution they propose is nothing short of internal immigration
There are those in the country who have a problem with immigration as it is without us "emmergrating" to our own country .
What would the result of this be?
The southerners living in the south, sharing the south with foreign immigrants, and now sharing the south with the northerners.
And this will make things better how exactly?
Land up north will be cheaper because there is nobody there, but the price of land in the south will sky rocket.
Property prices in London are already laughable, but if a mass migration like this was to occur then only the very wealthy would be able to afford to buy their own homes.

A much smaller country with far more people.
I think this think tank has a few leaks


Companies being forced to employ foreigners is a load of bollocks
Companies employ foreign labor for one of two reasons, because they can screw the system by paying them less than minimum wage, or so they can work harder.

You might wonder what I mean by work people harder.
Let me clarify.
Whereas British workers are more inclined to slack, right or wrong, his Polish (for example) counterpart is a much more valued company asset.
The British worker may be happy to send private e mails from work, even read a forum (hello to all you skivving ba$^ards reading this from work ).
The British worker might be happy to take as many loo breaks as wanted during the working day.
The British worker might be happy to go outside and have a fag.
To linger over dinner and get back to work 5 mins late.


Now let's look at our immigrant friend who knows his worth is only what he gets done in a day and that he can be replaced very easily and with as much regret as the manager blowing his nose.
If at a computer, it's work related.
Need a pee? hold it in.
Back late from lunch? not when he's back half an hour early from lunch every day.
Want a ciggie? Save it for the pub after work, oh hang on.... Just quit instead then.

Companies employ immigrants because they are harder workers for cheaper money (sort of legalised slaves) nothing else, so claiming it's because of the north doesn't make a great deal of sense
Especially when there are firms here in the north doing exactly the same thing.Might account for some of that 26% unemployment huh


You might argue that this being the case that the British worker is at fault and deserves to lose their jobs for being lazy and not working as hard, but who among us has never swung the lead instead of giving 110% every moment?

The British worker may be lazier than his counterpart, but we have worked damn hard so we would never be slaves, and we have never worked as slaves either.

[~Helen~]

the think tank didn't. (think, that is.)

[The Flying Mouse]

More like a THICK Tank

Honestly, what kind of no brainer are you on when you're opening argument includes the admission you might be a bit "barmy"?

I've got no time for these people.

[Pudding]

Originally Posted by geordieloaf

The south is more like another country, too many different nationality's and i would say the real England is right here up north!

It depends what you class as 'real England' as some would argue Bradford isn't 'real England' and that's up north.

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

So the plan is to move everyone from the North to the South?
So the entire population of the country can live in an area less than half the size of the country?

I don't think the plan was to move everyone just to move the lazy ones who can't be arsed to get a job to move South and take up the jobs the immigrants are doing down South. That then would solve Geordieloaf's argument of too many different nationalities in south and then you'd make ALL of England the real England.

In a way it makes perfect sense.

Pud

[geordieloaf]

Originally Posted by Pudding

It depends what you class as 'real England' as some would argue Bradford isn't 'real England' and that's up north.



I don't think the plan was to move everyone just to move the lazy ones who can't be arsed to get a job to move South and take up the jobs the immigrants are doing down South. That then would solve Geordieloaf's argument of too many different nationalities in south and then you'd make ALL of England the real England.

In a way it makes perfect sense.

Pud

So isn't there lazy people down south that don't work? I'm sure there are in which case give them the job's that other Nationalities are currently doing down there. Then it would free up more space for us Northerners to move in with are whippet's, flat caps and peas pudding!

[Pudding]

There's probably more lazy arses sponging off handouts in the North than there are in the South and I'm originally from Yorkshire, so no one can accuse me of being racist towards Northerners

Liverpool for example has 26% living off handouts (apparently) I don't know what the poplulation is of Liverpool, but that's a hell of a lot cashing their Giro's each week. Bradford has an high unemployment rate and that's a shithole, I'm originally from Brighouse a few miles away so I know what I'm talking about. And don't forget Dewsbury, think of the Shannon Matthews family, Christ almighty you get the picture.

Whether moving South is a practical idea or not (it would lower the house prices in the South that's for sure ) it has certain merits in getting people who do sponge off the state to move South and get a job, or at least get them working for their dole.

Pud

[geordieloaf]

To be honest i don't know the figures for unemployment through out the country. Yes there are alot of shitholes in the north, like wise there are plenty down south. What pisses me off is these knob heads from down south who assume that people up north would love the chance to move down south where everthing is so much better!
I have been all over the country, and i would say imo that London (not the tourist places) is the dirtiest most unfreindly city i have been to.
I'm not anti-south i just don't like the way they treat us northerners with such contempt. Your right Bradford is a shithole, i have a friend who was brought up there and moved away as soon as he was old enough.

[Battybarb]

I agree Bradford is a shithole,which is up north,but you are also right go to plces down south e.g.places like Woolwich, which now is a total p**s hole must have 1000 different nationalities all on the dole ,not safe to walk round during the day let alone night time,there are plenty of other places down here that are becoming like that.
On the whole i find northern people to be much friendlier than southern people...thats talking from experience..coming from a southerners mouth...lol

[Pudding]

Originally Posted by geordieloaf

I have been all over the country, and i would say imo that London (not the tourist places) is the dirtiest most unfreindly city i have been to.

London is a nightmare place and if it wasn't for the tourist places it could do with a good flooding to give it a clean.

Originally Posted by Battybarb

On the whole i find northern people to be much friendlier than southern people...

Burgled with a smile ...LMAO

Pud

[mszee]

I feel like I am in the middle of the American Civil War...North and South...why don't all unemployed Northerners all move over here...then they can have my personal fricking immigrant job...

Whoever doesn't want to work, doesn't have education and/or ambition to work will not work whether they are in the North or South...whether they are in England or America...what a ridiculous argument...

[Battybarb]

LOl...i am so fed up any way think im gonna move to Spain..lol

[djfierce]

Originally Posted by mszee

Whoever doesn't want to work, doesn't have education and/or ambition to work will not work whether they are in the North or South...whether they are in England or America...what a ridiculous argument...

Exactly, i have long believed that there is a job for everyone, not neccessarily what you WANT to do for a living but if you want to work then there is always something, even if its cleaning toilets or something else you didnt imagine yourself doing.

There are always alot of pro's and cons for living anywhere....nowhere is perfect...could i see myself living up north right now?? Well no, not right now but i'll never say never and i will go wherever i think my children are best placed, if i had a choice right now, i would go back to hertfordshire...it was a pretty happy medium as far as quality of life goes