is it just me...

**allrevvedup** · 03 Dec 2008, 21:50

or is this a dodgy attempt at a meat loaf autograph?

http://cgi.ebay.ie/Meatloaf-SIGNED-A...3A1|240%3A1318

*AndyK* · 03 Dec 2008, 21:55

The M is fairly accurate the rest looks like it could have been written by Scrabble!

**allrevvedup** · 03 Dec 2008, 21:56

i would've expected a paw if that's the case

Wario · 03 Dec 2008, 22:00

the M looks identical. Could be Meat's very rushed version of his sig.

You cant duplicate an M like that ...

**The Flying Mouse** · 03 Dec 2008, 22:03

Looks like it says Millet Cob

*AndyK* · 03 Dec 2008, 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

the M looks identical. Could be Meat's very rushed version of his sig.

You cant duplicate an M like that ...

Yes you can ... I spent many an hour during my school years perfecting both my mother's signature (useful for notes to get me out of things) and Meat Loaf's (not useful at all but more of a challenge).

In my experience if Meat is rushed he'll sign things "Meat" ... if he's not rushed you get he full "Meat Loaf" there really hasn't been a great deal of variation of his signature over the years that I've seen ... other than in the supposed guaranteed certified authentic signatures that appear on ebay.

LucyK! · 03 Dec 2008, 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

You cant duplicate an M like that ...

And clearly he hasn't

Sorry but to me the only similarity between Meat's M and this one is that they both actually are the letter M

carole · 03 Dec 2008, 23:09

Well real or not, I've got my own CD's with Meat's signature on them and it didn't cost me anything to get him to sign them and I would NEVER part with them under any circumstances. So no way would I line this persons pocket by buying his signed CD real or otherwise.

Carole

Hypnobabe · 03 Dec 2008, 23:12

I would have thought that if Meat had signed it, he'd at least have spelled his name right - it looks like it says Meat Lof to me...

meatloaf-unofficial · 04 Dec 2008, 00:52

Its amazing the items that you coem across on ebay - with fake signitures of Meat Loaf... I just laugh really

**The Flying Mouse** · 04 Dec 2008, 00:55

e bay is great for really really rare signed stuff.

I still love the record Brian May mentioned on his blog.

Someone was selling a greatest hits of Freddie Mercury signed very clearly on the front in blue pen.
The sig was as clear as you could wish for, no smudges, crystal clear.

Only one little problem.

That particular compilation did not come out during Freddie's lifetime

**RadioMaster** · 04 Dec 2008, 09:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucy!

And clearly he hasn't

Sorry but to me the only similarity between Meat's M and this one is that they both actually are the letter M

Im with Lucy on that one

MeatGrl1 · 04 Dec 2008, 12:43

First off I have the genuine artical on several goods and it looks absolutely nothing like this

, this screams FAKE and FRAUD to me, don't know how anyone would have the gaul to do this !

daveake · 04 Dec 2008, 14:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatGrl1

First off I have the genuine artical on several goods and it looks absolutely nothing like this

, this screams FAKE and FRAUD to me, don't know how anyone would have the gaul to do this !

Yeah, you can never trust the Frogs ...

Personally, I don't see the point in buying signed stuff. For me the only reason for having a signature is as a memento of having met whoever signed the thing for me.

Dave

**RadioMaster** · 04 Dec 2008, 18:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by daveake

Personally, I don't see the point in buying signed stuff. For me the only reason for having a signature is as a memento of having met whoever signed the thing for me.

Dave

exactly

carole · 04 Dec 2008, 22:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster

exactly

Yeah I agree, it has special meaning to have met your idol and have them sign something for you, it's something you will treasure always. Can't comprehend these people who then turn around and sell them on ebay, they obviously aren't true fans. I even saw a signed picture on ebay once and it was even addressed to that person, now who would buy an item signed that has someone else's name on it? Don't understand how they could bear to part with it myself.

Carole

**Monstro** · 04 Dec 2008, 22:48

On the subject of somewhat overated Meat ebay auctions lol...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MEAT-LOAF-BAT-...1%7C240%3A1318

My apologies to anyone who was watching this with the intention to purchase!!!!!!

carole · 04 Dec 2008, 23:09

I already have one similar to that, but I didn't pay that much for it. Mine was presented to Rob Schnieders when Bat 2 sold 3 000 000 copies. I noticed they have reduced it from $10 000, not surprising that no one wanted to pay that much for it.

Carole

**The Flying Mouse** · 04 Dec 2008, 23:16

Perhaps a person willing to sell is not a true fan and took the opportunity to make a couple of quid by getting a saleable autograph?

Perhaps the "true fan" died and their collection is being sold off by the family?

Whatever the reason, I think it's a good thing that autographs ARE available on the open market for those who want them.
For years I wanted my copy of Bat Out Of Hell signed (turned into a mania actually) but I always held out on buying an autograph as while Meat is still alive, and I am still alive, there is a chance i'd be able to meet him, and I did.Happy ever after.

But not everyone is lucky enough to meet him these days, especially with the more (IMHO) heavy handed approach to meet and greets, so for those who are not able to spend a couple of hundred pounds on M&G tickets, it's a good cheap option of getting the signature you want.

Forgeries are the downside, and always wondering if it's an original is the price you pay.

The problems with autographs is that it's hard to refute a autograph as 100% fake (unless it's a Shakespear signed in ballpoint pen).

How do we know that the sig is fake?
Because it doesn't look like his sig.
But can you say that you have a completely consistant signature?

Perhaps Meat was feeling ill and scrawled, perhaps Meat was in a rush and hurried, perhaps Meat was walking, leaning the record on someones back while talking to someone else over his left shoulder?

So nobody can say that it's a 100% fake, but even if it's real it will not make the money because it's not a good classic example of his autograph.

If you look on my profile, you'll see a pic of a lovely signed pic of Steve Barton, and if I could justify the expence, i'd be very happy to buy it, but I could never be 100% sure it's the genuine article.

carole · 04 Dec 2008, 23:38

That's some goodd points, I hadn't thought of it that way, and no my signature is never exactly the same every time I sign it. Lucky I'm not famous and people don't want my autograph.

Carole

MeatGrl1 · 05 Dec 2008, 00:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monstro

On the subject of somewhat overated Meat ebay auctions lol...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MEAT-LOAF-BAT-...1%7C240%3A1318

My apologies to anyone who was watching this with the intention to purchase!!!!!!

£5,073.40

!!!

OK I need to go lie down !!

Who the feck has that kind of money dude ?!

carole · 05 Dec 2008, 04:45

I certainly don't, well not to spend on something like that, I really got a bargain with what I spent on mine. Makes up for all the times I've bought things, and later seen them go for less!!!! Which just happened the other day, finally got the Bat 2 picture disc, but it came up just a week later and went for a third what I spent, was majorly pissed off!!!

Carole

daveake · 05 Dec 2008, 11:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by carole

Which just happened the other day, finally got the Bat 2 picture disc, but it came up just a week later and went for a third what I spent, was majorly pissed off!!!

Carole

What I do for things like that is just set myself a limit based on what it's sold for before, and what I'm willing to pay. Then when ones comes up I'll bid my max at the last moment, and either I'll get it or I won't - there'll always be another one soon. No point in paying over the odds.

Dave

LucyK! · 05 Dec 2008, 11:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

But not everyone is lucky enough to meet him these days, especially with the more (IMHO) heavy handed approach to meet and greets, so for those who are not able to spend a couple of hundred pounds on M&G tickets, it's a good cheap option of getting the signature you want.

Even those that did spend a couple of hundred pounds (several times) on M&Gs didn't get the signature they wanted

**The Flying Mouse** · 05 Dec 2008, 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucy!

Even those that did spend a couple of hundred pounds (several times) on M&Gs didn't get the signature they wanted

Exactly

The only way to know for sure a autograph is the real deal is if it happens in front of you (we'll leave out the possibility of imposters wearing expensive realistic latex masks

), so everyone else is basing their belief the autograph is genuine in trust.

I would say a M&G autograph has better prospects of being genuine, of course

but you know what I mean

03 Dec 2008, 21:50	#1
allrevvedup "Most things that i worry about, never happen anyway" Join Date: 29.11.2003 Location: Liverpool Posts: 5,351	is it just me... or is this a dodgy attempt at a meat loaf autograph? http://cgi.ebay.ie/Meatloaf-SIGNED-A...3A1\|240%3A1318

03 Dec 2008, 21:55	#2
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	The M is fairly accurate the rest looks like it could have been written by Scrabble!

03 Dec 2008, 21:56	#3
allrevvedup "Most things that i worry about, never happen anyway" Join Date: 29.11.2003 Location: Liverpool Posts: 5,351	i would've expected a paw if that's the case

03 Dec 2008, 22:00	#4
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	the M looks identical. Could be Meat's very rushed version of his sig. You cant duplicate an M like that ...

03 Dec 2008, 22:03	#5
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	Looks like it says Millet Cob

03 Dec 2008, 23:09	#8
carole Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.10.2007 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 2,286	Well real or not, I've got my own CD's with Meat's signature on them and it didn't cost me anything to get him to sign them and I would NEVER part with them under any circumstances. So no way would I line this persons pocket by buying his signed CD real or otherwise. Carole

03 Dec 2008, 23:12	#9
Hypnobabe mszee's Mistress with sexy goddess boots Join Date: 13.07.2005 Location: Hitting the highway like a battering ram... Posts: 7,686	I would have thought that if Meat had signed it, he'd at least have spelled his name right - it looks like it says Meat Lof to me...

04 Dec 2008, 00:52	#10
meatloaf-unofficial Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.02.2006 Location: Touring the Country Posts: 2,558	Its amazing the items that you coem across on ebay - with fake signitures of Meat Loaf... I just laugh really

04 Dec 2008, 00:55	#11
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	e bay is great for really really rare signed stuff. I still love the record Brian May mentioned on his blog. Someone was selling a greatest hits of Freddie Mercury signed very clearly on the front in blue pen. The sig was as clear as you could wish for, no smudges, crystal clear. Only one little problem. That particular compilation did not come out during Freddie's lifetime

04 Dec 2008, 12:43	#13
MeatGrl1 No Day But Today Join Date: 29.05.2006 Location: Sitting on the steps outside looking so restless and reckless and lost! Posts: 9,089	First off I have the genuine artical on several goods and it looks absolutely nothing like this , this screams FAKE and FRAUD to me, don't know how anyone would have the gaul to do this !

04 Dec 2008, 22:48	#17
Monstro Promoted to Wario's spellchecker Join Date: 17.09.2005 Location: London Posts: 12,946	On the subject of somewhat overated Meat ebay auctions lol... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MEAT-LOAF-BAT-...1%7C240%3A1318 My apologies to anyone who was watching this with the intention to purchase!!!!!!

04 Dec 2008, 23:09	#18
carole Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.10.2007 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 2,286	I already have one similar to that, but I didn't pay that much for it. Mine was presented to Rob Schnieders when Bat 2 sold 3 000 000 copies. I noticed they have reduced it from $10 000, not surprising that no one wanted to pay that much for it. Carole

04 Dec 2008, 23:16	#19
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	Perhaps a person willing to sell is not a true fan and took the opportunity to make a couple of quid by getting a saleable autograph? Perhaps the "true fan" died and their collection is being sold off by the family? Whatever the reason, I think it's a good thing that autographs ARE available on the open market for those who want them. For years I wanted my copy of Bat Out Of Hell signed (turned into a mania actually) but I always held out on buying an autograph as while Meat is still alive, and I am still alive, there is a chance i'd be able to meet him, and I did.Happy ever after. But not everyone is lucky enough to meet him these days, especially with the more (IMHO) heavy handed approach to meet and greets, so for those who are not able to spend a couple of hundred pounds on M&G tickets, it's a good cheap option of getting the signature you want. Forgeries are the downside, and always wondering if it's an original is the price you pay. The problems with autographs is that it's hard to refute a autograph as 100% fake (unless it's a Shakespear signed in ballpoint pen). How do we know that the sig is fake? Because it doesn't look like his sig. But can you say that you have a completely consistant signature? Perhaps Meat was feeling ill and scrawled, perhaps Meat was in a rush and hurried, perhaps Meat was walking, leaning the record on someones back while talking to someone else over his left shoulder? So nobody can say that it's a 100% fake, but even if it's real it will not make the money because it's not a good classic example of his autograph. If you look on my profile, you'll see a pic of a lovely signed pic of Steve Barton, and if I could justify the expence, i'd be very happy to buy it, but I could never be 100% sure it's the genuine article.

04 Dec 2008, 23:38	#20
carole Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.10.2007 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 2,286	That's some goodd points, I hadn't thought of it that way, and no my signature is never exactly the same every time I sign it. Lucky I'm not famous and people don't want my autograph. Carole

05 Dec 2008, 04:45	#22
carole Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.10.2007 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 2,286	I certainly don't, well not to spend on something like that, I really got a bargain with what I spent on mine. Makes up for all the times I've bought things, and later seen them go for less!!!! Which just happened the other day, finally got the Bat 2 picture disc, but it came up just a week later and went for a third what I spent, was majorly pissed off!!! Carole