Man jailed for microwaving pet hamster

Pudding · 23 Sep 2010, 02:08

You just couldn't make this shit up if you tried.

Click---> HERE

At the end of the day animal cruelty is just wrong, if he wanted to eat the hamster then he should have killed it properly first. But jailing him for microwaving the hamster when there's child rapists walking free is even more wrong.

If anyone is interested in cooking an hamster (I'm not) then THIS website has some recipes.

AndrewG · 23 Sep 2010, 02:31

Banned from keeping animals for five years? The ~~~~~~~ shouldn't be allowed to keep animals for life. Sick ~~~~~~~ that he is.

duke knooby · 23 Sep 2010, 02:38

evil ~~~~~~~

duke knooby · 23 Sep 2010, 02:42

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Originally Posted by Pudding

You just couldn't make this shit up if you tried.

Click---> HERE

At the end of the day animal cruelty is just wrong, if he wanted to eat the hamster then he should have killed it properly first. But jailing him for microwaving the hamster when there's child rapists walking free is even more wrong.

If anyone is interested in cooking an hamster (I'm not) then THIS website has some recipes.

as deliberate shit stirring posts go... this ones rather high up!!

Pudding · 23 Sep 2010, 03:06

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as deliberate shit stirring posts go... this ones rather high up!!

WTF?

meatfanforlife · 23 Sep 2010, 04:21

...wow

Wario · 23 Sep 2010, 04:32

Hampster really didnt deserve it, but the guy was drunk. He's probably killing himself inside for killing his favorite hampster. If he wasn't drunk he should burn in hell.

suzieq · 23 Sep 2010, 04:38

OMG about the sick person microwaving small animals....I guess it is a trait of a serial killer.

And here animals are helping people: I saw on the news that a parrot being arrested for helping a drug cartel.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...ug-cartel.html

Pudding · 23 Sep 2010, 04:57

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I saw on the news that a parrot being arrested for helping a drug cartel.

Reminds of people from Hartlepool who hung a monkey (that's not some sick euphemism by the way) for apparently being a French Napoleonic spy

GDW · 23 Sep 2010, 10:31

Sick ~~~~~~~. Needs his balls put in a juice blender and turned on full speed.

A Slice Of English · 23 Sep 2010, 10:35

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Originally Posted by Pudding

At the end of the day animal cruelty is just wrong, if he wanted to eat the hamster then he should have killed it properly first. But jailing him for microwaving the hamster when there's child rapists walking free is even more wrong.

Regrettably, rape is a harder offence to prove for a large number of reasons.

**The Flying Mouse** · 24 Sep 2010, 22:26

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Originally Posted by Pudding

You just couldn't make this shit up if you tried.

Click---> HERE

At the end of the day animal cruelty is just wrong, if he wanted to eat the hamster then he should have killed it properly first. But jailing him for microwaving the hamster when there's child rapists walking free is even more wrong.

If anyone is interested in cooking an hamster (I'm not) then THIS website has some recipes.

Can't say I agree with the logic you're applying to that

If the police find a paedophile then thet'll arrest them, but it's no excuse that "there are worse things I could do so nuking my pet in the microwave just for kicks is alright".
It's like people who get stopped by the police for speeding and ask if the copper "why are you bothering me when there are paedophilles in the world"?
Perhaps because you were breaking the law in broad daylight and not giving a flying ~~~~ who sees you do it?

It's a bullshit excuse.
If paedos operated in the street then they would be easy to catch, easy to send down.
Paedos should be punished and punished HARD (strung up by the neck in my book

) but you can't use the fact that there are paedophilles at large to lessen a crime like this.

And besides, hasn't there been a proven link that animal cruelty has been a starting point for many people who have gone on to commit much more serious and disgusting crimes

Catching a sick ~~~~er like that before he hurts a child has got to be a good thing in everyone's book surely?

Pudding · 24 Sep 2010, 22:38

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Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

Can't say I agree with the logic you're applying to that

Maybe you need to read what I said properly before applying your bullshit nonsense and twisting what I say

**The Flying Mouse** · 24 Sep 2010, 22:48

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Originally Posted by Pudding

Maybe you need to read what I said properly before applying your bullshit nonsense and twisting what I say

There is a need to be so offensive because someone disagrees with you?

What part of this statement did I get wrong?

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Originally Posted by Pudding

But jailing him for microwaving the hamster when there's child rapists walking free is even more wrong.

Pudding · 24 Sep 2010, 23:18

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Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

There is a need to be so offensive because someone disagrees with you?

I don't mind anyone disagreeing with me, but adding and twisting what I said on something serious is offensive.

At no point did I say he or anyone who's commited a crime, could use pedophiles walking the street as an excuse to get away with their crime, which is what you've implied I said.

My point is, the punishment doesn't fit the crime when there's more serious crimes that get a lesser punishment or even no punishment at all. That doesn't mean he shouldn't get punished because he should and some serious psychiatric help.

**The Flying Mouse** · 24 Sep 2010, 23:38

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Originally Posted by Pudding

I don't mind anyone disagreeing with me, but adding and twisting what I said on something serious is offensive.

At no point did I say he or anyone who's commited a crime, could use pedophiles walking the street as an excuse to get away with their crime, which is what you've implied I said.

My point is, the punishment doesn't fit the crime when there's more serious crimes that get a lesser punishment or even no punishment at all. That doesn't mean he shouldn't get punished because he should and some serious psychiatric help.

You better read your first post again then, because that's exactly what it says.

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Originally Posted by Pudding

At the end of the day animal cruelty is just wrong, if he wanted to eat the hamster then he should have killed it properly first. But jailing him for microwaving the hamster when there's child rapists walking free is even more wrong.

No twists added.

Now if you'd said something like..............

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Originally Posted by paraphrasing Pudding

At the end of the day animal cruelty is just wrong, if he wanted to eat the hamster then he should have killed it properly first. But jailing him for microwaving the hamster when convicted child rapists are allowed to walk free with little more than a slap on the wrist is even more wrong.

...............I could agree with that.

Pudding · 25 Sep 2010, 00:07

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Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

You better read your first post again then, because that's exactly what it says.

No it isn't. In your world it may be exactly the same, but in reality it isn't.

But jailing him for microwaving the hamster when there's child rapists walking free is even more wrong.

Nowhere in there do I say that he should get away with what he did and use pedophilia as an excuse. That's nonsense that's come from you not me.

**The Flying Mouse** · 25 Sep 2010, 00:11

I have a feeling we could go on all night like this

*Backs slowly out of the room*

A Slice Of English · 25 Sep 2010, 00:22

I can guarantee you that anyone convicted of child sex offences or rape will most certainly receive a more stringent punishment than this man received.

I work in the child protection arena so believe me, I know.

Pudding · 25 Sep 2010, 01:31

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Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

I have a feeling we could go on all night like this

Or all morning in my case

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Originally Posted by A Slice Of English

I can guarantee you that anyone convicted of child sex offences or rape will most certainly receive a more stringent punishment than this man received.

I think key word there is 'convicted'. Personally I'm all for a bit of vigilantism when these people aren't successfully convicted

A Slice Of English · 25 Sep 2010, 01:55

The difficulty in convicting someone is that the evidence has to go beyond any reasonable doubt that it happened. An inherent difficulty with proving sexual offences, particularly historical ones, is that forensic evidence is often lacking and we rely on witness testimony and corroboration to be able to prove things. It can be a lengthy and frustrating process and success is never guaranteed. I subscribe to the opinion that I would do everything in my power to try and prove an offence but at the end of the day, all you can do is gather the facts. It is not my place to judge people, that comes down to those members of the public charged with being a jury. I don't envy them that job.

I would suggest that proving a man microwaved his hamster is a lot easier than proving someone is a paedophile, particularly when you take into account the fact this man admitted his offence whereas the majority of paedophile's are aware that their sexual preference is prohibited and despised and they learn very clever ways of concealing their desires.

A frustrating area to work in, but also fascinating and rewarding. I do not condone vigilantism.

Pudding · 25 Sep 2010, 02:24

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Originally Posted by A Slice Of English

I do not condone vigilantism.

Unfortunately society is spiralling downwards that fast that that's what will eventually happen. People have had enough of living in fear or having criminals walk free.

A Slice Of English · 25 Sep 2010, 02:29

Trouble is, people make judgments without hearing all the facts. they accuse people of being criminals when they haven't been convicted. It's a step away from lawlessness. I doubt very much that the UK will ever become a vigilante state. It just won't happen. That's not to say the criminal justice system is infallible. Clearly it isn't. But it would take something really huge for the general public to rise up in a wave of vigilantism.

Pudding · 25 Sep 2010, 02:57

The crime rate in UK alone is rising with vandalism, burglary, violence, drugs etc The Police can't keep up, and when they do the courts don't throw the full weight of the law at them and the prisons are getting full. Something's twisted in society.

How can it be that a country be outraged that a delinquent puts an hamster in microwave, or a cat in a bin, yet old ladies being beaten, mugged and sometimes raped hardly bats an eye-lid?

Alternatively to vigilantism, bring back national service and boot camps for the little b*stards.

A Slice Of English · 25 Sep 2010, 09:39

I think you'll find that peoples perception is that crime is on the up but in actual fact, crime rates have fallen pretty much across the board. In Dorset, where I work, the only crime that is up at the moment is burglary and robbery and that can, in part, be explained by the downturn in the economy where such crimes become more commonplace. Serious violent crime is down some 15% and lower level violence is also down around that figure. Overall crime is down 6.4% in Dorset. So people continue to perceive what they want to perceive and the only reason these other crimes go unreported is because the newspapers don't publish them because they're not going to sell papers. Sad but true.

Oh, and crime rates in Dorset have fallen every year for the last 10 years. No doubt someone will suggest that the figures are manipulated but there will always be such conspiracy theorists. I have no hand in totting up the figures, I simply do my best to try and bring them down and to protect children, first and foremost.

23 Sep 2010, 02:08	#1
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	Man jailed for microwaving pet hamster You just couldn't make this shit up if you tried. Click---> HERE At the end of the day animal cruelty is just wrong, if he wanted to eat the hamster then he should have killed it properly first. But jailing him for microwaving the hamster when there's child rapists walking free is even more wrong. If anyone is interested in cooking an hamster (I'm not) then THIS website has some recipes.

23 Sep 2010, 02:31	#2
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,077	Banned from keeping animals for five years? The ~~~~~~~ shouldn't be allowed to keep animals for life. Sick ~~~~~~~ that he is.

23 Sep 2010, 02:38	#3
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,882	evil ~~~~~~~

23 Sep 2010, 04:21	#6
meatfanforlife Banned Join Date: 12.09.2010 Posts: 327	...wow

23 Sep 2010, 04:32	#7
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	Hampster really didnt deserve it, but the guy was drunk. He's probably killing himself inside for killing his favorite hampster. If he wasn't drunk he should burn in hell.

23 Sep 2010, 04:38	#8
suzieq Mega Loafer Join Date: 26.10.2008 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 2,319	OMG about the sick person microwaving small animals....I guess it is a trait of a serial killer. And here animals are helping people: I saw on the news that a parrot being arrested for helping a drug cartel. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...ug-cartel.html

23 Sep 2010, 10:31	#10
GDW Super Loafer Join Date: 26.03.2010 Location: Perth Posts: 984	Sick ~~~~~~~. Needs his balls put in a juice blender and turned on full speed.

25 Sep 2010, 00:11	#18
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	I have a feeling we could go on all night like this Backs slowly out of the room

25 Sep 2010, 00:22	#19
A Slice Of English Guest Join Date: 10.11.2003 Posts: 1,258	I can guarantee you that anyone convicted of child sex offences or rape will most certainly receive a more stringent punishment than this man received. I work in the child protection arena so believe me, I know.

25 Sep 2010, 01:55	#21
A Slice Of English Guest Join Date: 10.11.2003 Posts: 1,258	The difficulty in convicting someone is that the evidence has to go beyond any reasonable doubt that it happened. An inherent difficulty with proving sexual offences, particularly historical ones, is that forensic evidence is often lacking and we rely on witness testimony and corroboration to be able to prove things. It can be a lengthy and frustrating process and success is never guaranteed. I subscribe to the opinion that I would do everything in my power to try and prove an offence but at the end of the day, all you can do is gather the facts. It is not my place to judge people, that comes down to those members of the public charged with being a jury. I don't envy them that job. I would suggest that proving a man microwaved his hamster is a lot easier than proving someone is a paedophile, particularly when you take into account the fact this man admitted his offence whereas the majority of paedophile's are aware that their sexual preference is prohibited and despised and they learn very clever ways of concealing their desires. A frustrating area to work in, but also fascinating and rewarding. I do not condone vigilantism.

25 Sep 2010, 02:29	#23
A Slice Of English Guest Join Date: 10.11.2003 Posts: 1,258	Trouble is, people make judgments without hearing all the facts. they accuse people of being criminals when they haven't been convicted. It's a step away from lawlessness. I doubt very much that the UK will ever become a vigilante state. It just won't happen. That's not to say the criminal justice system is infallible. Clearly it isn't. But it would take something really huge for the general public to rise up in a wave of vigilantism.

25 Sep 2010, 02:57	#24
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	The crime rate in UK alone is rising with vandalism, burglary, violence, drugs etc The Police can't keep up, and when they do the courts don't throw the full weight of the law at them and the prisons are getting full. Something's twisted in society. How can it be that a country be outraged that a delinquent puts an hamster in microwave, or a cat in a bin, yet old ladies being beaten, mugged and sometimes raped hardly bats an eye-lid? Alternatively to vigilantism, bring back national service and boot camps for the little b*stards.

25 Sep 2010, 09:39	#25
A Slice Of English Guest Join Date: 10.11.2003 Posts: 1,258	I think you'll find that peoples perception is that crime is on the up but in actual fact, crime rates have fallen pretty much across the board. In Dorset, where I work, the only crime that is up at the moment is burglary and robbery and that can, in part, be explained by the downturn in the economy where such crimes become more commonplace. Serious violent crime is down some 15% and lower level violence is also down around that figure. Overall crime is down 6.4% in Dorset. So people continue to perceive what they want to perceive and the only reason these other crimes go unreported is because the newspapers don't publish them because they're not going to sell papers. Sad but true. Oh, and crime rates in Dorset have fallen every year for the last 10 years. No doubt someone will suggest that the figures are manipulated but there will always be such conspiracy theorists. I have no hand in totting up the figures, I simply do my best to try and bring them down and to protect children, first and foremost.