Prize Fight Lover: HCTB or BTWA version?

Wario · 10 Sep 2016, 07:35

discuss. Im curious.

2jaxx · 10 Sep 2016, 09:14

I can't decide. Actually both have their pros and cons. I am impressed by the new version because it does a few things right that I didn't expect. Both versions are very different.

BostonAngel · 10 Sep 2016, 10:13

Have to wait until I receive the US version next week

proctorloaf · 10 Sep 2016, 10:27

Does anyone have the HCTB version please? I originally had it but lost it when my iPod died and it's not on iTunes to redownload

x

ashkent7 · 10 Sep 2016, 21:45

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Originally Posted by proctorloaf

Does anyone have the HCTB version please? I originally had it but lost it when my iPod died and it's not on iTunes to redownload

x

Have look on youtube...I think it is still on there.

ashkent7 · 10 Sep 2016, 21:48

I do like the new version's guitar over keyboard/pipe organ whatever it is intro and throughout. I also like Meat's new vocal, but I do still like the HCTB version.

anotherday · 10 Sep 2016, 22:09

BTWA wins it for me.

Wario · 10 Sep 2016, 22:12

The overlap of vocals is terrible on the BTWA Version!!

ThatWriterGuy · 10 Sep 2016, 22:13

Although there are a lot of good aspects on this version, it's still HCTB for me, all the way.

anotherday · 10 Sep 2016, 22:17

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Originally Posted by Wario

The overlap of vocals is terrible on the BTWA Version!!

JFC...can't you just ENJOY something, instead of complaining about every little thing you find?

Wario · 10 Sep 2016, 22:28

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Originally Posted by anotherday

JFC...can't you just ENJOY something, instead of complaining about every little thing you find?

When mixing is bad and editing is bad i can, and i will. I spent so much on this record I have the right.

All these 5 star fruitless reviews are blind imo. the record has some serious problems.

Im far from the only one here who thinks this. im just the only one who will say anything publicly and get the backlash. idgaf.

ThatWriterGuy · 10 Sep 2016, 22:29

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Originally Posted by anotherday

JFC...can't you just ENJOY something, instead of complaining about every little thing you find?

Let's not argue -- it's been blissfully peaceful here these past few days. Let Chris dissect, it's okay, you can still enjoy it all, and Chris can vent about what he doesn't like. It's all cool in my book

Wario · 10 Sep 2016, 22:30

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Originally Posted by ThatWriterGuy

Let Chris dissect, it's okay, you can still enjoy it all, and Chris can vent about what he doesn't like. It's all cool in my book

Exactly!!!

CarylB · 10 Sep 2016, 23:26

Again, no options for Like them both for different reasons. As a poll designer you have some problems dear

stretch37 · 10 Sep 2016, 23:31

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Originally Posted by ThatWriterGuy

Let's not argue -- it's been blissfully peaceful here these past few days. Let Chris dissect, it's okay, you can still enjoy it all, and Chris can vent about what he doesn't like. It's all cool in my book

Precicily

stretch37 · 10 Sep 2016, 23:34

For me it's about power and technique. The old version of SITS (Stand in the storm for those new here or acronym deficient like myself) was my favorite, as is the old version of Prize Fight Lover.

Meat sang the older versions with power and like Meat Loaf.

The new versions are in 'new incarnation Meat Loaf' mode with the slidey vocals the seem to droop down to no sound, and then blast out a yell, and I just find that, while it does show more emotion, it doesn't hook me, but rather distracts me from the song. And actually, turns me off from listening entirely.

Also agreed about the chopping up of words on this version and mashing them, it just sounds weird.

Wario · 10 Sep 2016, 23:46

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Originally Posted by CarylB

Again, no options for Like them both for different reasons. As a poll designer you have some problems dear

That would break the poll...

AndrewG · 11 Sep 2016, 00:21

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Originally Posted by Wario

That would break the poll...

No it would break your intention of trying to box people into a certain group.

The overlap of vocals on the BTWA version is clearly stylistic. Meat isn't that stupid ffs. I love it.

AndrewG · 11 Sep 2016, 00:27

Breaking news: Anything for Love has overlapped vocal tracks so it proves Meat Loaf couldn't sing in 1993 or Steinman was a terrible producer. Poll options a) Meat Loaf couldn't sing in 1993. b) Jim Steinman is a terrible producer.

MarkS · 11 Sep 2016, 00:38

I like the instrumentation/arrangement of the BTWA, but the vocals of HCTB. I'll be sticking with the HCTB version in my playlist

stretch37 · 11 Sep 2016, 01:00

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Originally Posted by MarkS

I like the instrumentation/arrangement of the BTWA, but the vocals of HCTB. I'll be sticking with the HCTB version in my playlist

That's me as well

AndrewG · 11 Sep 2016, 02:23

I like both versions so can't vote. The BTWA version I find quite exciting since it's new and since it's on CD it's better playback quality for me.

NightAngel · 11 Sep 2016, 04:21

I like both... so I can't use the poll Wario!

stretch37 · 11 Sep 2016, 04:27

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Originally Posted by NightAngel

I like both... so I can't use the poll Wario!

It's like all those times you do one of those games with your wife or your friend like "ok ok, if the house was burning down, would you save sam or piper the dog if you had to pick one", and you say "BOTH!"

The poll doesn't have the option both, and neither did my game. YOU LOSE as willy wonka would say

#thisisallinjest

Wario · 11 Sep 2016, 05:23

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

The overlap of vocals on the BTWA version is clearly stylistic. Meat isn't that stupid ffs. I love it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewG

Breaking news: Anything for Love has overlapped vocal tracks so it proves Meat Loaf couldn't sing in 1993 or Steinman was a terrible producer. Poll options a) Meat Loaf couldn't sing in 1993. b) Jim Steinman is a terrible producer.

I get it was obviously a stylistic choice, DUH

BUT it's not smooth, unlike in AFL and Two Out Of Three and If I Can't Have You. That's the mixing.

Also the choppy hiss on the AFL track is terrible. You can fade in and out those tracks slightly. That was lazy. And fill it with room tone

These bonus tracks couldn't have been produced by Paul

View Poll Results: Well?????
HCTB	14	50.00%
BTWA	10	35.71%
The Demo	2	7.14%
I dont like PFL	2	7.14%
Voters: 28. You may not vote on this poll

10 Sep 2016, 07:35	#1
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	Prize Fight Lover: HCTB or BTWA version? discuss. Im curious.

10 Sep 2016, 09:14	#2
2jaxx Senior Loafer Join Date: 19.07.2006 Location: Posts: 131	I can't decide. Actually both have their pros and cons. I am impressed by the new version because it does a few things right that I didn't expect. Both versions are very different. Last edited by 2jaxx; 10 Sep 2016 at 09:53.

10 Sep 2016, 10:13	#3
BostonAngel Super Loafer Join Date: 03.02.2009 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 822	Have to wait until I receive the US version next week

10 Sep 2016, 10:27	#4
proctorloaf Super Loafer Join Date: 28.02.2010 Location: Liverpool, UK Posts: 353	Does anyone have the HCTB version please? I originally had it but lost it when my iPod died and it's not on iTunes to redownload x

10 Sep 2016, 21:48	#6
ashkent7 Super Loafer Join Date: 02.12.2010 Location: Durham,UK Posts: 338	I do like the new version's guitar over keyboard/pipe organ whatever it is intro and throughout. I also like Meat's new vocal, but I do still like the HCTB version.

10 Sep 2016, 22:09	#7
anotherday Super Loafer Join Date: 12.10.2012 Posts: 801	BTWA wins it for me.

10 Sep 2016, 22:12	#8
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	The overlap of vocals is terrible on the BTWA Version!!

10 Sep 2016, 22:13	#9
ThatWriterGuy Super Loafer Join Date: 19.10.2015 Location: UK Posts: 669	Although there are a lot of good aspects on this version, it's still HCTB for me, all the way.

10 Sep 2016, 23:26	#14
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	Again, no options for Like them both for different reasons. As a poll designer you have some problems dear

10 Sep 2016, 23:34	#16
stretch37 Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.06.2008 Location: Posts: 2,119	For me it's about power and technique. The old version of SITS (Stand in the storm for those new here or acronym deficient like myself) was my favorite, as is the old version of Prize Fight Lover. Meat sang the older versions with power and like Meat Loaf. The new versions are in 'new incarnation Meat Loaf' mode with the slidey vocals the seem to droop down to no sound, and then blast out a yell, and I just find that, while it does show more emotion, it doesn't hook me, but rather distracts me from the song. And actually, turns me off from listening entirely. Also agreed about the chopping up of words on this version and mashing them, it just sounds weird.

11 Sep 2016, 00:27	#19
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,077	Breaking news: Anything for Love has overlapped vocal tracks so it proves Meat Loaf couldn't sing in 1993 or Steinman was a terrible producer. Poll options a) Meat Loaf couldn't sing in 1993. b) Jim Steinman is a terrible producer.

11 Sep 2016, 00:38	#20
MarkS Super Loafer Join Date: 20.03.2012 Posts: 312	I like the instrumentation/arrangement of the BTWA, but the vocals of HCTB. I'll be sticking with the HCTB version in my playlist

11 Sep 2016, 02:23	#22
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,077	I like both versions so can't vote. The BTWA version I find quite exciting since it's new and since it's on CD it's better playback quality for me.

11 Sep 2016, 04:21	#23
NightAngel Loafer Join Date: 13.04.2014 Location: Sydney Posts: 94	I like both... so I can't use the poll Wario!