Should Meat Loaf play at Donald Trump's Inauguration Ceremony?

nightinr · 29 Dec 2016, 11:42

This could be a big opportunity for Meat Loaf to get massive exposure around the world.

The vast amount of showbiz stars appear to be very negative to Trumps election success. Meat on the otherhand remained neutral in public. Meat has however been a big supporter of the Republican party in the past and coming from Texas is likely to be a Republican I suspect.

With Trump appearing to be desperate for a big name to perform should Meat Loaf offer his services?!

Sebastian. · 29 Dec 2016, 13:10

No.

AndrewG · 29 Dec 2016, 14:05

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Originally Posted by nightinr

With Trump appearing to be desperate for a big name to perform should Meat Loaf offer his services?!

What makes you think he is desperate?

I doubt he is.
Trump tweeted this before Christmas:

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The so-called "A" list celebrities are all wanting tixs to the inauguration, but look what they did for Hillary, NOTHING. I want the PEOPLE!

This "look we have a performing monkey doing some tricks on in a minute so vote for us / like us" approach was Obama/Hillary. Yesterday's news.

I don't believe there is a US law that states a celeb performance is needed at the inauguration.

Perhaps have some military marching bands perform some patriotic music, but celebs such as Meat on at the inauguration? No. It wouldn't help Trump and it wouldn't help Meat.

CarylB · 29 Dec 2016, 16:53

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Originally Posted by nightinr

This could be a big opportunity for Meat Loaf to get massive exposure around the world.

The vast amount of showbiz stars appear to be very negative to Trumps election success. Meat on the otherhand remained neutral in public. Meat has however been a big supporter of the Republican party in the past and coming from Texas is likely to be a Republican I suspect.

With Trump appearing to be desperate for a big name to perform should Meat Loaf offer his services?!

Meat doesn't need "a big opportunity" .. he IS a household name, may well have drawn a line under his touring career .. yet were he to announce one again would sell out venues .. and was very wise to refrain from comment during this US election. Your suspicions are irrelevant; Meat has voted both Democrat and Republican in the past, and who he votes for is up to him and no-one else's business. He has never been a "big supporter" publicly of any party; his one small foray into the arena when he appeared at one Romney rally in the previous election campaign brought him a tirade of rude abuse from some of his fans which upset him greatly.

You don't have to support the President to appear at an inauguration .. however this time it has starkly divided a nation, and I am not in the least surprised that the vast majority of artists don't want to touch it with a bargepole, because of the effect it would have on their fans .. people are not very good at allowing their idols to have opinions that differ to theirs.

So NO .. as I suspect you already expected. You have been on here long enough to know what happened in 2012, so I can only surmise at your reasons for starting this thread

nightinr · 29 Dec 2016, 17:09

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Originally Posted by CarylB

Meat doesn't need "a big opportunity" .. he IS a household name, may well have drawn a line under his touring career .. yet were he to announce one again would sell out venues .. and was very wise to refrain from comment during this US election. Your suspicions are irrelevant; Meat has voted both Democrat and Republican in the past, and who he votes for is up to him and no-one else's business. He has never been a "big supporter" publicly of any party; his one small foray into the arena when he appeared at one Romney rally in the previous election campaign brought him a tirade of rude abuse from some of his fans which upset him greatly.

You don't have to support the President to appear at an inauguration .. however this time it has starkly divided a nation, and I am not in the least surprised that the vast majority of artists don't want to touch it with a bargepole, because of the effect it would have on their fans .. people are not very good at allowing their idols to have opinions that differ to theirs.

So NO .. as I suspect you already expected. You have been on here long enough to know what happened in 2012, so I can only surmise at your reasons for starting this thread

There is no need to get so defensive Caryl!

Meat may actually no longer be a household name to the younger generations in the US. Recent US tours have been performed at relatively small venues unlike the arena shows in the UK.

I am just suggesting if his health allows this will give him some publicity to the worldwide market.

nikox1 · 29 Dec 2016, 17:17

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Originally Posted by nightinr

There is no need to get so defensive Caryl!

Meat may actually no longer be a household name to the younger generations in the US. Recent US tours have been performed at relatively small venues unlike the arena shows in the UK.

I am just suggesting if his health allows this will give him some publicity to the worldwide market.

I do see your point to a degree, but i think Caryl stated some very good points.
And i cant see people going out to buy Meat Loaf albums because he sang a song on that disturbed individuals big night.

CarylB · 29 Dec 2016, 17:30

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Originally Posted by nikox1

... but i think Caryl stated some very good points.
And i cant see people going out to buy Meat Loaf albums because he sang a song on that disturbed individuals big night.

Thank you

Pointing out what should be obvious is hardly defensive.

Meat is hardly at a point in his career where he has particular need to attract "younger generations in the US" .. and certainly doesn't imo need to grasp this particular poisoned chalice

nightinr · 29 Dec 2016, 18:30

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Originally Posted by CarylB

Thank you

Pointing out what should be obvious is hardly defensive.

Meat is hardly at a point in his career where he has particular need to attract "younger generations in the US" .. and certainly doesn't imo need to grasp this particular poisoned chalice

The audience is likely to be in the hundreds of millions if not topping a billion so maybe worth some consideration?

Caryl I find your tone towards me quite patronising. We're not living in North Korea people can have different opinions.

nikox1 · 29 Dec 2016, 19:48

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Originally Posted by nightinr

The audience is likely to be in the hundreds of millions if not topping a billion so maybe worth some consideration?

Caryl I find your tone towards me quite patronising. We're not living in North Korea people can have different opinions.

Im not getting involved between you and Caryl, if you feel she is doing this? Fair enough but i dont see it myself.
Again i understand what you are pointing out, but i dont see how it would help Meat? Could he plug the album?

MarkS · 29 Dec 2016, 20:11

No. I have no problem with Trump or with anyone that wants to perform at the inauguration, good for them.

But, Meat's voice needs no where near that level of scrutiny. If the AFL debacle was bad, this would be that times 100, the live voice just is not up to par anymore.

nightinr · 29 Dec 2016, 20:15

Yep fair point Mark. As much as we all love Meat we have to be honest and say his voice has been in decline for 15 years.

If he mimed like he has done on several TV shows he would get criticism for that as well.

AndrewG · 29 Dec 2016, 20:24

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Originally Posted by MarkS

No. I have no problem with Trump or with anyone that wants to perform at the inauguration, good for them.

But, Meat's voice needs no where near that level of scrutiny. If the AFL debacle was bad, this would be that times 100, the live voice just is not up to par anymore.

Unfortunately and I really hate to admit it but I do think you indeed revealed the elephant in the room.

Julie in the rv mirror · 29 Dec 2016, 20:36

When all the cool kids wouldn't come to my party, I said I never would have invited them anyway.

CarylB · 29 Dec 2016, 21:18

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Originally Posted by nightinr

The audience is likely to be in the hundreds of millions if not topping a billion so maybe worth some consideration?

I disagree for the reasons I have given

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Caryl I find your tone towards me quite patronising. We're not living in North Korea people can have different opinions.

Really? Sorry you choose to feel that way. You asked the question in the first place. I merely expressed my opinion. That it is frequently different to yours should by now be no surprise, and I do so precisely because we are not in N Korea, and I am entitled to hold it

Just as I do not agree that Meat's voice has been on the decline for 15 years. I have attended many concerts where he has been on superb form during that time.

I would agree that his physical fitness, given he is still recovering from back surgery, would be another reason to preclude his attending .. but stand by the fact that it would be a poisoned chalice to take anyway on this occasion.

loaferman61 · 29 Dec 2016, 22:24

The answer is if Meat wants to and was feeling up to it. As far as I know the band is not doing anything Meat Loaf related at the moment. I also feel like that if Meat did this and no matter how good it was he would get nothing but scorn for doing it from the media and a lot of fans. Plus Jim would probably faint at the idea of his songs being done.

Typically in the US it is considered fine for people in the performing industry to appear for one party's candidates, yet career suicide to appear for the other party. I assume this is because the performer's politics lean that direction and certainly their bosses must approve or they wouldn't risk it.

The way the world is today - much due to the internet- people are so venomous about any little issue that if I were a performer I would be totally apolitical in public.

nightinr · 29 Dec 2016, 23:48

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Originally Posted by CarylB

I disagree for the reasons I have given

Really? Sorry you choose to feel that way. You asked the question in the first place. I merely expressed my opinion. That it is frequently different to yours should by now be no surprise, and I do so precisely because we are not in N Korea, and I am entitled to hold it

Just as I do not agree that Meat's voice has been on the decline for 15 years. I have attended many concerts where he has been on superb form during that time.

I would agree that his physical fitness, given he is still recovering from back surgery, would be another reason to preclude his attending .. but stand by the fact that it would be a poisoned chalice to take anyway on this occasion.

I'm amazed that you think Meat's voice has not detoriated Caryl? If you listened to some of Meat's performances in the 80's, 90's on youtube you will see his incredible power he use to have in his live vocals. I think even Meat has admitted his vocals aren't what they once were.

NightAngel · 30 Dec 2016, 00:09

Meat has chosen to not publicly speak about his politics.. why would we need to speculate.

That is Meats business.

Adje · 30 Dec 2016, 00:11

I thought Bocceli was going to perform?

**Monstro** · 30 Dec 2016, 00:15

The question..................

Quote:

Originally Posted by nightinr

With Trump appearing to be desperate for a big name to perform should Meat Loaf offer his services?!

And the answer........................................

Quote:

Originally Posted by nightinr

The audience is likely to be in the hundreds of millions if not topping a billion so maybe worth some consideration?

Quote:

Originally Posted by nightinr

As much as we all love Meat we have to be honest and say his voice has been in decline for 15 years.

If he mimed like he has done on several TV shows he would get criticism for that as well.

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Originally Posted by nightinr

I think even Meat has admitted his vocals aren't what they once were.

Didn't need us at all then

AndrewG · 30 Dec 2016, 00:40

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Originally Posted by Adje

I thought Bocceli was going to perform?

He isn't, exactly for the reasons which Loaferman pointed to.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/new...uch-heat-fans/

Although I don't think any celeb needs to perform at this event like I said, a bunch of whining snowflaky assholes starting a hashtag #boycottbocelli against an amazing singer who has battled blindness and done tons of charitable work throughout his life is very sad and completely pathetic.

Yes even the "cool" kids are capable of bullying, in fact I would argue they do it more than the uncool kids.

Maybe the uncool kids are really the cool ones....

Wario · 30 Dec 2016, 00:49

Meat should, the audience would be huge.

And even if it sucks, hell overshadow Trump. Id rather have Meat on the news good or bad. No way wed treat him like Australia did.

CarylB · 30 Dec 2016, 00:57

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Originally Posted by Wario

No way wed treat him like Australia did.

And how did many of you treat him when he appeared at Romney's rally?

nikox1 · 30 Dec 2016, 01:03

Its not happening anyway, so who cares?

CarylB · 30 Dec 2016, 01:15

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Originally Posted by nightinr

I'm amazed that you think Meat's voice has not detoriated Caryl? If you listened to some of Meat's performances in the 80's, 90's on youtube you will see his incredible power he use to have in his live vocals. I think even Meat has admitted his vocals aren't what they once were.

You said "his voice has been in decline for 15 years." I disagreed. I don't need to listen on YT; I attended many of Meat's performances in the 80s and 90s .. and almost all tours since then. Storytellers, Night of the Proms, Having Fun, CHSIB (if you missed the first show after his WPWS surgery, you missed an amazing vocal performance), even Hair of the Dog tours were great. His voice began to show weakness as the vocal cyst developed (although he was still magnificent at the RAH) .. and when it healed he came back strongly in Casa de Carne and Hang Cool. Has his voice altered? Yes, of course; it would be unreasonable to expect it to remain constantly the same over 40 years. But to suggest it has been "in decline for 15 years" is not something I agree with .. and Last at Bat 3 years ago was superb, and showed just how much power and strength he still had.

nightinr · 30 Dec 2016, 01:15

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Originally Posted by Wario

Meat should, the audience would be huge.

And even if it sucks, hell overshadow Trump. Id rather have Meat on the news good or bad. No way wed treat him like Australia did.

You know what they say..... "there is no such thing as bad publicity"

29 Dec 2016, 11:42	#1
nightinr Super Loafer Join Date: 04.09.2011 Posts: 358	Should Meat Loaf play at Donald Trump's Inauguration Ceremony? This could be a big opportunity for Meat Loaf to get massive exposure around the world. The vast amount of showbiz stars appear to be very negative to Trumps election success. Meat on the otherhand remained neutral in public. Meat has however been a big supporter of the Republican party in the past and coming from Texas is likely to be a Republican I suspect. With Trump appearing to be desperate for a big name to perform should Meat Loaf offer his services?!

29 Dec 2016, 13:10	#2
Sebastian. Biggles Join Date: 15.02.2011 Location: Texas Posts: 2,027	No.

29 Dec 2016, 20:11	#10
MarkS Super Loafer Join Date: 20.03.2012 Posts: 312	No. I have no problem with Trump or with anyone that wants to perform at the inauguration, good for them. But, Meat's voice needs no where near that level of scrutiny. If the AFL debacle was bad, this would be that times 100, the live voice just is not up to par anymore.

29 Dec 2016, 20:15	#11
nightinr Super Loafer Join Date: 04.09.2011 Posts: 358	Yep fair point Mark. As much as we all love Meat we have to be honest and say his voice has been in decline for 15 years. If he mimed like he has done on several TV shows he would get criticism for that as well.

29 Dec 2016, 20:36	#13
Julie in the rv mirror Spirit in the Night Join Date: 23.07.2008 Location: On the edge of town (in the Darkness...) Posts: 1,559	When all the cool kids wouldn't come to my party, I said I never would have invited them anyway.

29 Dec 2016, 22:24	#15
loaferman61 Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.03.2003 Location: In the dark Posts: 1,557	The answer is if Meat wants to and was feeling up to it. As far as I know the band is not doing anything Meat Loaf related at the moment. I also feel like that if Meat did this and no matter how good it was he would get nothing but scorn for doing it from the media and a lot of fans. Plus Jim would probably faint at the idea of his songs being done. Typically in the US it is considered fine for people in the performing industry to appear for one party's candidates, yet career suicide to appear for the other party. I assume this is because the performer's politics lean that direction and certainly their bosses must approve or they wouldn't risk it. The way the world is today - much due to the internet- people are so venomous about any little issue that if I were a performer I would be totally apolitical in public.

30 Dec 2016, 00:09	#17
NightAngel Loafer Join Date: 13.04.2014 Location: Sydney Posts: 94	Meat has chosen to not publicly speak about his politics.. why would we need to speculate. That is Meats business.

30 Dec 2016, 00:11	#18
Adje trying to be realistic Join Date: 28.09.2007 Location: Posts: 1,958	I thought Bocceli was going to perform?

30 Dec 2016, 00:49	#21
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	Meat should, the audience would be huge. And even if it sucks, hell overshadow Trump. Id rather have Meat on the news good or bad. No way wed treat him like Australia did.

30 Dec 2016, 01:03	#23
nikox1 Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.07.2007 Location: Front line of the battle Posts: 2,657	Its not happening anyway, so who cares?