We need to reinvigorate this place: Live Recordings official and unofficial

[Wario]

I honestly feel like Live recording and bootleg discussion should be a sub forum. will give new life to this forum.

right now its dead. and a waste of money sadly.

if we had a live recording sub forum to discuss and trade thatd really bring people in.

Meat doesnt come here anymore anyway. its been like 2 years.

[AndrewG]

Originally Posted by Wario

I honestly feel like Live recording and bootleg discussion should be a sub forum. will give new life to this forum.

right now its dead. and a waste of money sadly.

if we had a live recording sub forum to discuss and trade thatd really bring people in.

Meat doesnt come here anymore anyway. its been like 2 years.

I doubt there is enough interest to be honest, just for bootlegs. There is enough opportunity for people to create posts about this anyway without changes to the forum structure.

I just randomly looked up Bruce Springsteen's 1975 Main Point show on YouTube. Widely regarded as one of his most famous Bootlegs, the birth of Born to Run. One of the first few videos on YouTube that came up that has the full show has only 50 views over the last half year. If the king of bootlegs gets so little narrowed down attention then in reality how much interest in boots is there for Meat? Much less I would reckon since also many of his set lists hardly changed during tours. With the live shows available (mostly Bat with the Australian orchestra) people's needs are probably mostly fulfilled. Even the awesome Live Around The World set had quite a limited run. Most Meat Loaf's boots never sounded as good as that.

Let's face it if there is no news + the fact forums have been dying around the web for years it's a perfect storm for a fan forum to go down hill right now.
Rockman has had two threads this year. And that is on the back of the musical that countless people were waiting for for over a decade.

[Evil One]

What is there to say that we haven't already said?

[byo1975]

Originally Posted by Wario

I honestly feel like Live recording and bootleg discussion should be a sub forum. will give new life to this forum.

right now its dead. and a waste of money sadly.

if we had a live recording sub forum to discuss and trade thatd really bring people in.

Meat doesnt come here anymore anyway. its been like 2 years.

i want bootlegs....this is dead...

[Evil One]

What bootlegs are there that are not already available? There's probably tonnes of tatty audience recordings I haven't heard/seen, and at least one person has a recording of It Just Wont Quit from a Storytellers show but refuses to share it. Unless someone uncovers something 'new' then I think all the good stuff is already out there.

[Chris77]

Ah Bootlegs,

by the way. Where is the Site of Adje gone?
Still missing Cleveland 1996 bootleg
Chris

[Adje]

Originally Posted by Chris77

Ah Bootlegs,

by the way. Where is the Site of Adje gone?
Still missing Cleveland 1996 bootleg
Chris

I stopped putting money in it. There is hardly anything new to find. Besides I don't have the time for it 😉

[loaferman61]

Originally Posted by AndrewG

I doubt there is enough interest to be honest, just for bootlegs. There is enough opportunity for people to create posts about this anyway without changes to the forum structure.

I just randomly looked up Bruce Springsteen's 1975 Main Point show on YouTube. Widely regarded as one of his most famous Bootlegs, the birth of Born to Run. One of the first few videos on YouTube that came up that has the full show has only 50 views over the last half year. If the king of bootlegs gets so little narrowed down attention then in reality how much interest in boots is there for Meat? Much less I would reckon since also many of his set lists hardly changed during tours. With the live shows available (mostly Bat with the Australian orchestra) people's needs are probably mostly fulfilled. Even the awesome Live Around The World set had quite a limited run. Most Meat Loaf's boots never sounded as good as that.

Let's face it if there is no news + the fact forums have been dying around the web for years it's a perfect storm for a fan forum to go down hill right now.
Rockman has had two threads this year. And that is on the back of the musical that countless people were waiting for for over a decade.

Springsteen fans have been spoiled by so many bootlegs and most of them out there a million times over. Meat and the Pony took a dimmer view of them which frankly I never understood. Meat thought people would sell them, but honestly the market for new studio recordings that get paid for the old way is gone, never minding old live stuff. A new release can chart at #1 now that would have never charted with those numbers back in the day.

I do think most of it is out there. I know I had the Dead Ringer documentary with the "Kill You If You Don't Come Back" video which I shared along with Adje so everyone could have a chance to see it and I also had a few other shows we shared which had not been online before that I am aware of.

I have a really good one that claims to be in France from the 80's but I moved and now I can't find it.

If people want to discuss them now, why not?

[jmfreeman]

The ML bootlegs brought me a great deal of pleasure over the years; especially as (until recently) official releases of live stuff were virtually non-existent, and far from showing the man at his best.

[byo1975]

Originally Posted by Chris77

Ah Bootlegs,

by the way. Where is the Site of Adje gone?
Still missing Cleveland 1996 bootleg
Chris

yep...we all missed adjes bootlegs...he is the best!!

[anotherday]

Between Wario and Adje, we had a treasure trove for years!

[jmfreeman]

The boys did good. God bless 'em both.

[Adje]

Originally Posted by loaferman61

I know I had the Dead Ringer documentary with the "Kill You If You Don't Come Back" video which I shared along with Adje so everyone could have a chance to see it and I also had a few other shows we shared which had not been online before that I am aware of.

I have a really good one that claims to be in France from the 80's but I moved and now I can't find it.

If people want to discuss them now, why not?

Ahhh yes. Those were the days. Washington 94, Deadringer documentary among other material. The only reason I kept you close

It always was a community thing. All the bootlegs I was able to share came from other fans. Also plenty of Internet searching but mostly fans contacting me because they had something to share. And mostly without wanting something in return or even being credited. Just being able to have the community enjoy those shows were enough reward for them.
They are the real heroes of our bootleg community. I was merely the lucky guy that got the credit, because they didn't want the credit

And I can tell you. English fans are fantastic, but the German fans are the best. Bless them for all they did for our bootleg community!

[loaferman61]

Originally Posted by Adje

Ahhh yes. Those were the days. Washington 94, Deadringer documentary among other material. The only reason I kept you close

It always was a community thing. All the bootlegs I was able to share came from other fans. Also plenty of Internet searching but mostly fans contacting me because they had something to share. And mostly without wanting something in return or even being credited. Just being able to have the community enjoy those shows were enough reward for them.
They are the real heroes of our bootleg community. I was merely the lucky guy that got the credit, because they didn't want the credit

And I can tell you. English fans are fantastic, but the German fans are the best. Bless them for all they did for our bootleg community!

You had the means to get them to a large number of people and also never sought any credit or anything in return. You deserve a ton of credit, the fact that you don't seek it is admirable but a lot of people got those through your work.

[Adje]

In the meantime I did upload something Meat Loaf not everybody has seen before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkdgEXutPQk

[Dick]

Originally Posted by Adje

In the meantime I did upload something Meat Loaf not everybody has seen before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkdgEXutPQk

I saw that earlier today and very much enjoyed it. Do you have any clips of Meat actually 'playing' guitar rather than 'acting' like he's playing? lol

I vaguely remember once seeing a YT clip of him playing one of Paul's white guitars during the band intros on the 3 Bats tour, and as far as i remember reading he did his fun Animal song for a while on Hang Cool tour. But i never saw that.

[AndrewG]

Originally Posted by Dick

I saw that earlier today and very much enjoyed it. Do you have any clips of Meat actually 'playing' guitar rather than 'acting' like he's playing? lol

I vaguely remember once seeing a YT clip of him playing one of Paul's white guitars during the band intros on the 3 Bats tour, and as far as i remember reading he did his fun Animal song for a while on Hang Cool tour. But i never saw that.

I remember Meat strumming quite a bit without pretty much anyone else on stage in 1999 in Glasgow during the acoustic set.

[AndrewG]

Originally Posted by Adje

In the meantime I did upload something Meat Loaf not everybody has seen before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkdgEXutPQk

Loved the intro to the show and glad Meat kept that going into 2004. It was a very fun way dealing with the amount of press he got after collapsing on stage. That and the whole tongue in cheek story about buying tickets from eBay during the Paradise play made this so fun.
I took some girl from South America from where I worked at the time to see the first Glasgow gig. She didn't know what the hell was going on during the nurse / Meat on the bed & do it parts.
The second Glasgow gig in Jan 2004 is still one of my favourites. Shame video recording was so rare at that time.

[jcmoorehead]

Maybe a little bit off topic for this thread but this is a question I have always wondered, can Meat actually play any instruments? I've often seen him with a guitar during concerts from time to time but it is just acting rather than playing. Can Meat play any guitar at all or any other instruments?

[proctorloaf]

Hi Folks - what is the DeadRinger documentary please? Not the film?

[Adje]

Originally Posted by proctorloaf

Hi Folks - what is the DeadRinger documentary please? Not the film?

[proctorloaf]

Ooo never seen that!

[Adje]

Originally Posted by proctorloaf

Ooo never seen that!

Tried to upload it to YT for you, but it got blocked. So I made you a clicky

[proctorloaf]

THANK YOU SO MUCH Adje!

[ajf33]

Many Thaks Adje, been looking for that for a while!