Remastered Bat Out Of Hell

Adam · 11 Mar 2001, 01:11

Has n e one bought the new remastered version of bat out of hell? If so could u please tell me if there is a breif drop in volume 6 minutes and 17 seconds into the first song because i would like to know if it is in the recording or just on my CD. Please reply, Thanx.

Dave · 11 Mar 2001, 03:14

All of the songs on BAT OUT OF HELL 2001 sound 100% better.

David
http://www.mirrorofthesoul.com

Meatles · 10 Jul 2001, 04:56

I have the remastered version with the live
bonus tracks : "Bolero" , and "Bat Out Of Hell". I didn't notice a brief drop in volume. It is probably your cd. That is very strange ! , if you have the receipt you should take it back and get a new copy of
the same version and see if all of them are
like that , you have nothing to lose .

Steve · 10 Jul 2001, 09:46

Maybe not 100% - but certainly a good 96%.

Shane · 11 Jul 2001, 12:38

I saw a review for the remastered version in a magazine (I think it was Q maybe) and it said that the re-released version contained Dead Ringer For Love. Is there more than one re-released version?

Alex · 12 Jul 2001, 00:47

The three 'main' releases of Bat Out Of Hell to my knowledge.

1977 - First release, 7 tracks, last track is FCOL.

1993 - the 'ReVamped' edition.... includes all original tracks plus Dead Ringer For Love.

2001 - Another release. This one including Dead Ringer For Love again, Bolero and Bat Live in addition to the 7 original tracks

There have been various releases of these different track combo's (Vinyl etc), but there appears never to be any quality loss in any song (to answer initial question!)

Have fun batting!
Smiley Faces [img]./icons/icon7.gif[/img]
Alex

Chris · 17 Jul 2001, 00:02

Hi,

There was also a re-release of Bat in 2000. This was the original album with no extra tracks but was on a gold CD. I think it was only available in the UK.

The CD sleeve also unfolds to form the original LP sleeve with cover on one side and lyrics on the other side.

Also does anyone know who the other two people are with Meat on the original sleeve. I think the fella is Steinman but am probably wrong.

Thanks, Chris

YOU GOT NOTHING TO DO AND EVEN LESS TO LOSE

Timewarp.nl · 17 Jul 2001, 17:14

The Guy is indeed the one and only master of rock, Jim Steinman. Who the girl is, I don't have a clue, she doesn't look like Karla Devitto or ellen Folley. Does anyone know who she is?????
Bye Timewarp.nl

Alex · 21 Jul 2001, 22:56

She may not look like her. But other pictures around that seem to be from the same photo shoot show that it really is Karla DeVito. Meat's lead female vocalist on the Bat tours (also sang back up on Jim's album [img]./icons/icon7.gif[/img]

Smiley Faces [img]./icons/icon7.gif[/img]

Timewarp.nl · 03 Aug 2001, 01:47

It's hard for me to imagine that the girl on the photo is karla, because I know carla as a woman with curly black hair, and the woman on the photo has got brown uncurled hair.
But if you say so i believe you.
Woman can do anything with hair
And by the way, as a die hard meat fan, I know who karla is and what she did.
but that's alright.

bye bye for now
Timewarp.nl

Meatles · 06 May 2002, 20:43

I am pretty sure that the woman in that picture inside the Bat sleeve is Ellen Foley , she had long blonde hair and is around that height. Karla wasn't with Meat Loaf when that picture was taken (remember people , Karla wasn't part of Meat until the tour began, after that pic was taken).

Timewarp.nl · 06 May 2002, 21:56

you got some good points.
to it is a mystery, and i like a mystery girl.

Greetz.

Tim · 07 May 2002, 13:40

I don't now if it's Karla or Ellen on the picture. Maybe it's just a girl (i think, now i'm looking at the picture, that it is not Ellen Folley, because she had blond hair). I do know that it's a great photo, and i thought i heard in an interview that that photo was a perfect Rock 'n' Roll photo. With Jim Steinman and Meat Loaf, both with the woman, one hand on the ass of the woman. Typicaly Rock, according to Jim Steinman in an interview.

And why do they re-release an album? I mean, the original Bat out of Hell is great, and it sounds great. Why a re-release? I don't get that, not this is with Meat Loaf albums, but with a lot more artist and albums. And who's idea is that? One from the record company?

Gina · 08 May 2002, 03:46

The girl in the photo was a girl Meat and Jim met in the Rainbow Room club in LA. She has a twin sister too! Meat dated her briefly.

Sorry..don't know her name. It is a cool picture!! One of the greatest in Rock History!

Take Care all!

All The Best
~Gina

Steve · 08 May 2002, 09:34

The answer to this one is simple - no self-respecting young rocker will buy an old album (unless they have been indoctrinated by their parents!! (tee, hee)). So to catch a new audience, you have to repackage and re-release - then a new generation of buyers will be satisfied that it is a new release because they're too damned young to remember it the first or second time round!!!

An old marketing strategy that works from toffee to toilet rolls - so why not music??

Tim · 08 May 2002, 13:28

Well, Steve, i know what you mean, and i can understand it, but is it, maybe, also a money issue form the record company?

But you're right about the generations that don't know what cool music is, and who has to learn to know them by a re-released album.
I grandma loved Meat Loaf, so my love for his music have i got from her

Tom B · 08 May 2002, 22:10

I wonder if it's one of the twins on the Tetley Interviews... Picture Disc 12" ... I don't have either at hand tho'

Shane · 09 May 2002, 13:19

I believe there are commercial reasons for re-release of an album.

First of all, most fans (including me) would go and buy the re-release. Imagine if everyone who bought one initially (in 1977) bought the re-release. I know that wouldn't happen, but I believe many people would, so the total number of Bat Out Of Hell albums sold would skyrocket. If 30 million people had bought one copy each (making 30 million), and each of those people bought it again, that would make 60 million. This would help to push the album up into the top albums of all time (in terms of sales). Bat Out Of Hell used to be in the top 3, but at the moment I think it is somewhere around 25.

Of course, all this means more money for the record companies (and I'm assuming Meat too). There are other tactics used for other albums. Sometimes, record companies will put out the same album with a slightly different cover (like for Michael Jackson's Invincible or No Doubt's Rock Steady), or they'll re-release it again a few weeks (or years later), like they did for Westlife (a boy group) and include some bonus tracks to increase the motivation to purchase.

Now don't get me wrong, I don't think there's anything wrong with this. Record companies and their artists have to make a living just as we do.

Shane · 09 May 2002, 13:22

Is it true that for the UK 2002 re-release of BOOH, that Dead Ringer was on it also? I have the Australasian version purchased in New Zealand, that has the seven original tracks, Bolero and Bat Out Of Hell (live), but no Dead Ringer.

11 Mar 2001, 01:11	#1
Adam Rookie Join Date: 14.04.2002 Posts: 1	Remastered Bat Out Of Hell Has n e one bought the new remastered version of bat out of hell? If so could u please tell me if there is a breif drop in volume 6 minutes and 17 seconds into the first song because i would like to know if it is in the recording or just on my CD. Please reply, Thanx.

11 Mar 2001, 03:14	#2
Dave Mega Loafer Join Date: 12.04.2002 Location: Southern Ohio - United States of America Posts: 2,564	Re: Remastered Bat Out Of Hell All of the songs on BAT OUT OF HELL 2001 sound 100% better. David http://www.mirrorofthesoul.com

10 Jul 2001, 04:56	#3
Meatles Super Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario (born and raised in London England) Posts: 253	Re: Remastered Bat Out Of Hell I have the remastered version with the live bonus tracks : "Bolero" , and "Bat Out Of Hell". I didn't notice a brief drop in volume. It is probably your cd. That is very strange ! , if you have the receipt you should take it back and get a new copy of the same version and see if all of them are like that , you have nothing to lose .

10 Jul 2001, 09:46	#4
Steve Senior Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Staring through the fire at the future Posts: 157	Re: Remastered Bat Out Of Hell Maybe not 100% - but certainly a good 96%.

11 Jul 2001, 12:38	#5
Shane Super Loafer Join Date: 30.04.2002 Location: Palmerston North, New Zealand (GMT+12) Posts: 608	Re: Remastered Bat Out Of Hell I saw a review for the remastered version in a magazine (I think it was Q maybe) and it said that the re-released version contained Dead Ringer For Love. Is there more than one re-released version?

12 Jul 2001, 00:47	#6
Alex Ooh weee ooOOoh! Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: In the Land of the Manc's Posts: 445	Re: Remastered Bat Out Of Hell The three 'main' releases of Bat Out Of Hell to my knowledge. 1977 - First release, 7 tracks, last track is FCOL. 1993 - the 'ReVamped' edition.... includes all original tracks plus Dead Ringer For Love. 2001 - Another release. This one including Dead Ringer For Love again, Bolero and Bat Live in addition to the 7 original tracks There have been various releases of these different track combo's (Vinyl etc), but there appears never to be any quality loss in any song (to answer initial question!) Have fun batting! Smiley Faces [img]./icons/icon7.gif[/img] Alex

17 Jul 2001, 00:02	#7
Chris Mega Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Somewhere in the real world. Posts: 7,527	Re: Remastered Bat Out Of Hell Hi, There was also a re-release of Bat in 2000. This was the original album with no extra tracks but was on a gold CD. I think it was only available in the UK. The CD sleeve also unfolds to form the original LP sleeve with cover on one side and lyrics on the other side. Also does anyone know who the other two people are with Meat on the original sleeve. I think the fella is Steinman but am probably wrong. Thanks, Chris YOU GOT NOTHING TO DO AND EVEN LESS TO LOSE

17 Jul 2001, 17:14	#8
Timewarp.nl Senior Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Transsexual in the galaxy of Transylvania Or Middle Earth Posts: 133	Re: Remastered Bat Out Of Hell The Guy is indeed the one and only master of rock, Jim Steinman. Who the girl is, I don't have a clue, she doesn't look like Karla Devitto or ellen Folley. Does anyone know who she is????? Bye Timewarp.nl

21 Jul 2001, 22:56	#9
Alex Ooh weee ooOOoh! Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: In the Land of the Manc's Posts: 445	Re: Remastered Bat Out Of Hell She may not look like her. But other pictures around that seem to be from the same photo shoot show that it really is Karla DeVito. Meat's lead female vocalist on the Bat tours (also sang back up on Jim's album [img]./icons/icon7.gif[/img] Smiley Faces [img]./icons/icon7.gif[/img]

03 Aug 2001, 01:47	#10
Timewarp.nl Senior Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Transsexual in the galaxy of Transylvania Or Middle Earth Posts: 133	Re: Remastered Bat Out Of Hell It's hard for me to imagine that the girl on the photo is karla, because I know carla as a woman with curly black hair, and the woman on the photo has got brown uncurled hair. But if you say so i believe you. Woman can do anything with hair And by the way, as a die hard meat fan, I know who karla is and what she did. but that's alright. bye bye for now Timewarp.nl

06 May 2002, 20:43	#11
Meatles Super Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario (born and raised in London England) Posts: 253	I am pretty sure that the woman in that picture inside the Bat sleeve is Ellen Foley , she had long blonde hair and is around that height. Karla wasn't with Meat Loaf when that picture was taken (remember people , Karla wasn't part of Meat until the tour began, after that pic was taken).

06 May 2002, 21:56	#12
Timewarp.nl Senior Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Transsexual in the galaxy of Transylvania Or Middle Earth Posts: 133	you got some good points. to it is a mystery, and i like a mystery girl. Greetz.

07 May 2002, 13:40	#13
Tim The Butcher Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Westervoort, The Netherlands Posts: 10,321	I don't now if it's Karla or Ellen on the picture. Maybe it's just a girl (i think, now i'm looking at the picture, that it is not Ellen Folley, because she had blond hair). I do know that it's a great photo, and i thought i heard in an interview that that photo was a perfect Rock 'n' Roll photo. With Jim Steinman and Meat Loaf, both with the woman, one hand on the ass of the woman. Typicaly Rock, according to Jim Steinman in an interview. And why do they re-release an album? I mean, the original Bat out of Hell is great, and it sounds great. Why a re-release? I don't get that, not this is with Meat Loaf albums, but with a lot more artist and albums. And who's idea is that? One from the record company?

08 May 2002, 03:46	#14
Gina Senior Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: North Carolina, US Posts: 152	The girl in the photo was a girl Meat and Jim met in the Rainbow Room club in LA. She has a twin sister too! Meat dated her briefly. Sorry..don't know her name. It is a cool picture!! One of the greatest in Rock History! Take Care all! All The Best ~Gina

08 May 2002, 09:34	#15
Steve Senior Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Staring through the fire at the future Posts: 157	Why Re-release? The answer to this one is simple - no self-respecting young rocker will buy an old album (unless they have been indoctrinated by their parents!! (tee, hee)). So to catch a new audience, you have to repackage and re-release - then a new generation of buyers will be satisfied that it is a new release because they're too damned young to remember it the first or second time round!!! An old marketing strategy that works from toffee to toilet rolls - so why not music??

08 May 2002, 13:28	#16
Tim The Butcher Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Westervoort, The Netherlands Posts: 10,321	Well, Steve, i know what you mean, and i can understand it, but is it, maybe, also a money issue form the record company? But you're right about the generations that don't know what cool music is, and who has to learn to know them by a re-released album. I grandma loved Meat Loaf, so my love for his music have i got from her

08 May 2002, 22:10	#17
Tom B Junior Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: West Mids. UK Posts: 42	Twins I wonder if it's one of the twins on the Tetley Interviews... Picture Disc 12" ... I don't have either at hand tho'

09 May 2002, 13:19	#18
Shane Super Loafer Join Date: 30.04.2002 Location: Palmerston North, New Zealand (GMT+12) Posts: 608	Commercial Reasons I believe there are commercial reasons for re-release of an album. First of all, most fans (including me) would go and buy the re-release. Imagine if everyone who bought one initially (in 1977) bought the re-release. I know that wouldn't happen, but I believe many people would, so the total number of Bat Out Of Hell albums sold would skyrocket. If 30 million people had bought one copy each (making 30 million), and each of those people bought it again, that would make 60 million. This would help to push the album up into the top albums of all time (in terms of sales). Bat Out Of Hell used to be in the top 3, but at the moment I think it is somewhere around 25. Of course, all this means more money for the record companies (and I'm assuming Meat too). There are other tactics used for other albums. Sometimes, record companies will put out the same album with a slightly different cover (like for Michael Jackson's Invincible or No Doubt's Rock Steady), or they'll re-release it again a few weeks (or years later), like they did for Westlife (a boy group) and include some bonus tracks to increase the motivation to purchase. Now don't get me wrong, I don't think there's anything wrong with this. Record companies and their artists have to make a living just as we do.

09 May 2002, 13:22	#19
Shane Super Loafer Join Date: 30.04.2002 Location: Palmerston North, New Zealand (GMT+12) Posts: 608	Dead Ringer on BOOH re-release??? Is it true that for the UK 2002 re-release of BOOH, that Dead Ringer was on it also? I have the Australasian version purchased in New Zealand, that has the seven original tracks, Bolero and Bat Out Of Hell (live), but no Dead Ringer.