The Arguements on this site.

jools35 · 15 Jan 2006, 23:22

Hello All,

I have been visiting this site for a long time(mainly just lurking)
I thought it would be high time to log a post.

I have been a long time fan of Meat Loafs since about 1985.
I have seen him in concert only 7 times, and these have been some of the best concerts that i have ever been to.
I have also got all his albums, be it Jim Steinman or not and for the most part they are great records

Over the last year or so, i have become increasely frustrated with the arguements, the bickering between members on this site.

Please remember that this site is called MLUKFC.

We ALL have different views of Meat Loafs Songs,concerts,material that he uses.
We are all of course are entitled to these views.

People need to calm down and think about what they are writing in posts.

With regards to Bat 3, if that is what they will call it.
Why cant people who are already knocking it, due to the supposed
lack of involvement by Jim Steinmen wait until official announcement are made???

WHAT IF THE MATTER WITH SOME PEOPLE.

I think that we are very lucky that Meat Loaf is recording another album and hopefully that he will tour in support of this record.

Having seen the latest post from Meat(Fireball),which i think we(as in this forum) are very lucky to have him post here!!!.
He is increasely getting more fed up,angry & frustrated(IMO) with certain posters.

We need to support Meat Loaf.
Surely we are all fans ?????

Sorry about the rants, but i hope that EVERYONE can think about what i have said, and hopefully allow this forum to continue for the enjoyment off ALL

Julian

R. · 15 Jan 2006, 23:25

This belongs into the feedback central. *kick*

ChloeLee88 · 15 Jan 2006, 23:27

I agree!

jools35 · 15 Jan 2006, 23:29

Sorry ladies and gents

Posted in the wrong forum

AndrewG · 16 Jan 2006, 01:11

I agree as well. But look at it this way: I think that many people bitch about what will become of Bat 3 on this site because there is not a lot of other decent music out there right now (at least in my opinion) so all credit to Meat and Jim. I definitely do not think Meat should listen too much to what a number of individuals have to bitch about on this website when he is thinking about his future music, he should just do what he thinks is best.

Caelan · 16 Jan 2006, 01:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musicman

I agree as well. But look at it this way: I think that many people bitch about what will become of Bat 3 on this site because there is not a lot of other decent music out there right now (at least in my opinion) so all credit to Meat and Jim. I definitely do not think Meat should listen too much to what a number of individuals have to bitch about on this website when he is thinking about his future music, he should just do what he thinks is best.

agree with that..specially HE SHOULD DO WHAT HE THINK IS BEST.

Pudding · 16 Jan 2006, 03:07

I disagree.

If people want to voice their concerns, then they should be allowed to, after all they are the paying public. Some people are quite happy to sit back, go with the flow and have a wait and see attitude, which is great. But there's also people like myself who aren't like that. If that makes me seem like I'm bitching then so be it, I'll be a bitch. But as much as I respect someone else's opinion for saying nothing, I don't see why my opinion should be disrespected for saying something.

Pud

rockfenris2005 · 16 Jan 2006, 08:52

Exactly. I agree with Pudding. If I want to say something I'll damn well say it. No one's gonna prevent me from having an opinion. And that's what I do here, express my opinions. If you can't live with that then don't make a scene, just linger away and find something else to do

Ageing Bat · 16 Jan 2006, 10:15

Perhaps the problem is more with the way an opinion is expressed, rather than the opinion itself?

Now I'm heading back down to 'Off Topic' where I belong!!

jools35 · 16 Jan 2006, 11:00

hi everyone

In response to rockfenris.

In my first post i said
We ALL have different views of Meat Loafs Songs,concerts,material that he uses.
We are all of course are entitled to these views.

People need to calm down and think about what they are writing in posts.

I have no problem with anyone voicing their views etc.

But as Ageing BAt said, i believe that it is the way anyones views are expressed is the problem.

Julian

ChloeLee88 · 16 Jan 2006, 11:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ageing Bat

Perhaps the problem is more with the way an opinion is expressed, rather than the opinion itself?

Now I'm heading back down to 'Off Topic' where I belong!!

Exactly...!!!!!

KebLou · 16 Jan 2006, 22:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by jools35

I have no problem with anyone voicing their views etc.

But as Ageing BAt said, i believe that it is the way anyones views are expressed is the problem.

Julian

Actually in my own experience, it sometimes isn't. It's because people can't take it that Meat isn't super human and that he does have faults.

R. · 16 Jan 2006, 23:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keb

Actually in my own experience, it sometimes isn't. It's because people can't take it that Meat isn't super human and that he does have faults.

This coin, actually, has two sides. It's not only Meat that isn't super human.

KebLou · 16 Jan 2006, 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.

This coin, actually, has two sides. It's not only Meat that isn't super human.

I agree 100% with you.

Pudding · 16 Jan 2006, 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keb

It's because people can't take it that Meat isn't super human and that he does have faults.

WHAT!!!

when did this happen?

Meat not super human indeed

next you'll be telling us the moon isn't made of cheese

Pud

**The Flying Mouse** · 16 Jan 2006, 23:37

hmmmmmmmm cheese

Steve6 · 17 Jan 2006, 02:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockfenris2005

Exactly. I agree with Pudding. If I want to say something I'll damn well say it. No one's gonna prevent me from having an opinion. And that's what I do here, express my opinions. If you can't live with that then don't make a scene, just linger away and find something else to do

That was really funny 10/10 Ryan very impressive

Everyone that posts at Rockman has the same opinion as to what you said above.
But I agree 100% with Pud and Ryan (which does'nt happen often)
If you can't express an opinion on a forum why have one?

**Ankie** · 17 Jan 2006, 10:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve6

If you can't express an opinion on a forum why have one?

No, there is nothing wrong with expressing an opinion on a forum.
But every forum/website has an owner, who, at first, is paying quite some money to have it online. Then lots and lots of time and energy have to be put into it, to keep it up and running.
So it is the full right of the owners to kind of keep it the way THEY like it to be.
Beside that: it IS a fansite, so there is this ''high'' risk the person/band after who a website is named and dedicated to, is talked about the way it happens on here.

shadow1000001 · 17 Jan 2006, 21:37

I think that alot of the problems are that the written word doesn't always convey the feeling that the writer is trying to portray. Humour and sarcasm are not easily translated.
Alot of posts here are taken too literally. That's why we need more smilies

Steve6 · 18 Jan 2006, 00:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadow1000001

Alot of posts here are taken too literally. That's why we need more smilies

I could'nt have said it better myself Shadow!!!!!!!

Pudding · 18 Jan 2006, 00:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadow1000001

Alot of posts here are taken too literally. That's why we need more smilies

I used a smilie the other day to convey what I thought and my post got deleted

Talk about "Kobayashi Maru"

Pud

Steve6 · 18 Jan 2006, 01:38

That would'nt be the one on "MY MEAT LOAF STORY" thread by any chance Pud?

AndrewG · 18 Jan 2006, 01:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve6

That would'nt be the one on "MY MEAT LOAF STORY" thread by any chance Pud?

In Pud's case it would be "My Jim Steinman Story" posted here.

Pudding · 18 Jan 2006, 02:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musicman

In Pud's case it would be "My Jim Steinman Story" posted here.

How did you know? I was thinking about doing one where I'm constantly ass-kissing, butt-munching and being a sycophantic lunatic

Jim is the king of the world

and Meat Loaf is his lowly serf

I'm his most trusted advisor of course

and I know exactly what he's thinking ALL the time

Pud

**The Flying Mouse** · 18 Jan 2006, 03:00

Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm, where's this going

Back on topic please.

15 Jan 2006, 23:22	#1
jools35 Julian Join Date: 03.03.2005 Posts: 106	The Arguements on this site. Hello All, I have been visiting this site for a long time(mainly just lurking) I thought it would be high time to log a post. I have been a long time fan of Meat Loafs since about 1985. I have seen him in concert only 7 times, and these have been some of the best concerts that i have ever been to. I have also got all his albums, be it Jim Steinman or not and for the most part they are great records Over the last year or so, i have become increasely frustrated with the arguements, the bickering between members on this site. Please remember that this site is called MLUKFC. We ALL have different views of Meat Loafs Songs,concerts,material that he uses. We are all of course are entitled to these views. People need to calm down and think about what they are writing in posts. With regards to Bat 3, if that is what they will call it. Why cant people who are already knocking it, due to the supposed lack of involvement by Jim Steinmen wait until official announcement are made??? WHAT IF THE MATTER WITH SOME PEOPLE. I think that we are very lucky that Meat Loaf is recording another album and hopefully that he will tour in support of this record. Having seen the latest post from Meat(Fireball),which i think we(as in this forum) are very lucky to have him post here!!!. He is increasely getting more fed up,angry & frustrated(IMO) with certain posters. We need to support Meat Loaf. Surely we are all fans ????? Sorry about the rants, but i hope that EVERYONE can think about what i have said, and hopefully allow this forum to continue for the enjoyment off ALL Julian

15 Jan 2006, 23:25	#2
R. You dig. Join Date: 02.04.2002 Location: On the fothermucker Posts: 7,179	This belongs into the feedback central. kick

15 Jan 2006, 23:27	#3
ChloeLee88 Super Loafer Join Date: 27.07.2005 Location: Bolton, Greater Manchester Posts: 666	I agree!

15 Jan 2006, 23:29	#4
jools35 Julian Join Date: 03.03.2005 Posts: 106	Sorry ladies and gents Posted in the wrong forum

16 Jan 2006, 01:11	#5
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,077	I agree as well. But look at it this way: I think that many people bitch about what will become of Bat 3 on this site because there is not a lot of other decent music out there right now (at least in my opinion) so all credit to Meat and Jim. I definitely do not think Meat should listen too much to what a number of individuals have to bitch about on this website when he is thinking about his future music, he should just do what he thinks is best.

16 Jan 2006, 03:07	#7
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	I disagree. If people want to voice their concerns, then they should be allowed to, after all they are the paying public. Some people are quite happy to sit back, go with the flow and have a wait and see attitude, which is great. But there's also people like myself who aren't like that. If that makes me seem like I'm bitching then so be it, I'll be a bitch. But as much as I respect someone else's opinion for saying nothing, I don't see why my opinion should be disrespected for saying something. Pud

16 Jan 2006, 08:52	#8
rockfenris2005 Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.02.2003 Location: Posts: 2,217	Exactly. I agree with Pudding. If I want to say something I'll damn well say it. No one's gonna prevent me from having an opinion. And that's what I do here, express my opinions. If you can't live with that then don't make a scene, just linger away and find something else to do

16 Jan 2006, 10:15	#9
Ageing Bat Young at heart. Slightly older in other places. Join Date: 20.11.2003 Location: Here! Posts: 1,311	Perhaps the problem is more with the way an opinion is expressed, rather than the opinion itself? Now I'm heading back down to 'Off Topic' where I belong!!

16 Jan 2006, 11:00	#10
jools35 Julian Join Date: 03.03.2005 Posts: 106	hi everyone In response to rockfenris. In my first post i said We ALL have different views of Meat Loafs Songs,concerts,material that he uses. We are all of course are entitled to these views. People need to calm down and think about what they are writing in posts. I have no problem with anyone voicing their views etc. But as Ageing BAt said, i believe that it is the way anyones views are expressed is the problem. Julian

16 Jan 2006, 23:37	#16
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	hmmmmmmmm cheese

17 Jan 2006, 21:37	#19
shadow1000001 Mega Loafer Join Date: 10.07.2003 Location: Red Deer, Alberta, Canada Posts: 2,580	I think that alot of the problems are that the written word doesn't always convey the feeling that the writer is trying to portray. Humour and sarcasm are not easily translated. Alot of posts here are taken too literally. That's why we need more smilies

18 Jan 2006, 01:38	#22
Steve6 Batman Join Date: 28.11.2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,690	That would'nt be the one on "MY MEAT LOAF STORY" thread by any chance Pud?

18 Jan 2006, 03:00	#25
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm, where's this going Back on topic please.