Original Sin's Agony Page. - Page 15

Tim · 12 Aug 2003, 01:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs Mouse

hi aunty sin, please help me i wish to know how to deal with grief, i am going through a lot of it just now ,please help.

Hello Mrs. Mouse,

I'm not Aunty Sin, but maybe i can help you. I know / understand what you are going trough. And that is tough and hard.
Grief is one thing that belongs to life. It is hard, but it will learn you see life in another way.
There is no real sollution about dealing with it. Everybody is dealing with it on his or her own way.

Maybe talking about it will help you. Or find some distraction.

This ain't much for a reaction to your post... but it is something. In my toughts you are with me, and i'm with you. Feel free to talk, if you want.

I wish you and Flying Mouse the best!

The Butcher, and here uncle Tim

Bren · 12 Aug 2003, 01:53

Mrs Mouse ,
so sorry to hear this....try to remember the good times
the following is a poem i wrote when grieving
My thoughts fall
in to the emptiness
unspoken.
whatever i do
and whatever i say
The silence steals my words away.
Tomorrow is broken
i think of things
i should have done
and words
i should have spoken....
But love
was always there
unbroken
This and our memories
are the tokens
left for us to remember
you by.
That same love
which often went
unspoken
is now the strength
that sees us through
when with grief, the heart
is broken.

just my thoughts...
thinking of you
Bren

CarolM · 12 Aug 2003, 02:03

thanx bren that poem says it all, how im feeling, how i have felt over the past few weeks, and how i feel always.
This is such a comfort thanx Bren best wishes Carolxxx

Tim · 12 Aug 2003, 08:51

Beautifull poem Bren. That is the only thing i have to say at this moment.

heat · 12 Aug 2003, 11:33

Hi Carol,

Just wanted you to know that you are in my thoughts and prayers hun, at this difficult time. We are always here for you, whenever you need us.

Quote:

When you call out my name, you know wherever i am, i'll come running just to see you again, Winter, spring, summer or fall, all you hafta do is call, and we'll be there, yes we will....you got your friends.

Take care of you hun,
Heat
xxx

P.S. Sin,Tim, hope you didn't mind me posting here.

original sin · 12 Aug 2003, 14:54

Mrs Mouse

Its a well worn phrase but true "Time is a great healer". The wound closes but the scars remain, you just adjust to living with them.

Two passages/poems give me strength and I'll share them here but I have pm'd you also.

1 Thessalonians ch 3 v 13-18
But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so those who also sleep in Jesus God will bring with him.
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that, we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to 1meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Therefore comfort one another with these words.

and also

Death is Nothing At All

Death is nothing at all.
I have only slipped away
into the next room.
I am I and You are You.
Whatever we were to each other,
that we still are.

Call me by my old familiar name,
Speak to me in the easy way
which you always used.
Put no difference in your tone,
Wear no forced air of solemnity or sorrow.

Laugh as we always laughed
At the little jokes we enjoyed together.
Pray, smile, think of me, pray for me
Let my name be the household word
that it always was.
Let it be spoken without effect,
without the trace of a shadow on it.

Life means all that it ever meant.
It is the same as it ever was;
There is unbroken continuity.
Why should I be out of mind
because I am out of sight?

I am waiting for you, for an interval,
somewhere very near, just round the corner.
All is well

My thoughts are with you and Mousie get comfort from each other and from the knowledge that you have many friends here in cyberspace.

Sinxxx

CarolM · 13 Aug 2003, 00:58

to all you guys on the forums thanx for all your support, kind words and readings and lovely poem, this has helped me a lot beleive me you are all priceless, also mousie couldnt of gone through it without you hun, you have all kept me together, thanx really from my heart you are all one in a million, best wishes to you all.Carol and Mousie. xxx

Tim · 13 Aug 2003, 01:12

Carol and Neil, now you know where you can talk if you have a problem... a lot of people are happy to help you with it. I know from my own experience!

The Butcher.

Ps. thanks to all who send me a pm.

CarolM · 13 Aug 2003, 01:22

Thanx Timmy, iam now a happy bunny so is mousie.

oops or should i say happy mousies

oh well.

back to aunty sin now.

original sin · 13 Aug 2003, 01:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs Mouse

Thanx Timmy, iam now a happy bunny so is mousie.

oops or should i say happy mousies

oh well.

back to aunty sin now.

Good to see

take care of each other.

Tim · 03 Sep 2003, 23:37

Mmm... long time no posts in this topic. No more problems?? or has everybody forgotten about this topic???

The Butcher.

Bren · 04 Sep 2003, 00:03

everyone discusses their problems on Post whores methinks, instead of here at the moment

Bren

original sin · 04 Sep 2003, 01:10

Quote:

Mmm... long time no posts in this topic. No more problems?? or has everybody forgotten about this topic???
The Butcher.

Quote:

everyone discusses their problems on Post whores methinks, instead of here at the moment
Bren

Thats ok I still get paid

Tim they will need us one day

Personally I'm waiting for GOD to come moaning that no one beilives in him/her/it these days

The Archangel Gabriel · 04 Sep 2003, 18:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by original sin

Personally I'm waiting for GOD to come moaning that no one beilives in him/her/it these days

Sin my Dear child
(or could i call you Virtue? Sin just seems so wrong for such a helpful, kind person)

GOD is far too busy, GOD Simply is, Believe.

I am NOT responsible for Charlotte Church, Satan made me do it.

Yours Faithfully

The Archangel Gabriel.

original sin · 04 Sep 2003, 23:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Archangel Gabriel

Sin my Dear child
(or could i call you Virtue? Sin just seems so wrong for such a helpful, kind person)

I have taken a look deep in my soul and realize that along with any virtues I am equally endowed with faults. Not knowing which way my deck is loaded I'll not go in for a name change just yet

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I am NOT responsible for Charlotte Church, Satan made me do it.

Oh dear! I do find this a very disturbing statement. One ery important thing to enable a person to develop is to take responsibility for their actions.

Dear Gabriel I think that considering the elevated position you hold you should set a shining example an stand up and say "It was me" "I did it and I have my reasons".

Of course for this deed you will pobably be denounced and stoned

but you will feel good about yourself at the end of the day

Tim · 05 Sep 2003, 01:49

Dear Sin,

I've got a problem with the God person... he's is answering very strange in: Get to know you topic in offtopic... He is talking about the last cd that he bought is the Australian CHSIB album..... THat makes me think. Can you please help me with finding out who is fooling around here??

The Butcher.

original sin · 05 Sep 2003, 21:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim

Dear Sin,
I've got a problem with the God person... he's is answering very strange in: Get to know you topic in offtopic... He is talking about the last cd that he bought is the Australian CHSIB album..... THat makes me think. Can you please help me with finding out who is fooling around here??
The Butcher.

Indeed Tim, I too have noticed that there are some very strange if not conflicting posts made

However I can think of little I can do to help you or anyone unravel this mystery.
I think we need to watch and wait, Please don't "stress over it". So far it appears harmless and amusing(imo).

JJ · 13 Sep 2003, 04:42

Hello there father
It's been several weeks since my last confession.........oops! wrong place! Sorry about that! strange too considering I'm not even Catholic!

I Do have a problem though.....does anyone know when the Jim Steinman/MTV version of 'Wuthering Heights' will be shown over here??? I've been annoying my neighbour who has satellite (because I dont), thinking it was on this Sunday (which it is) but only to find that that's MTV America.....not Europe!! (How was I to know there's more than one damn it??!!) Stupid channels!

Any ideas?? I've looked on the Neverland and Dream Pollution sites but they don't help. Pleeease just a hint someone????? I'm going insaaanne!!!!

Sue K · 13 Sep 2003, 05:39

dear auntie sin...

i warned you i'd make my way to here sometime with a problem..and here i yam...

auntie sin...i find that the majority of the people that post on this forum are very nice...just here to talk about Meat and chitchat back and forth...but there's some i find to be downright nasty...i want to call them bad names...however i know that is flaming and not allowed...sometimes i find myself wanting to reach through the screen and rip their heads off..but that's not a possibility either....i don't have the stamina or ability to wrote eloquently...and i get so dang angry ..i just want to tell them to f ...off...but i know that's not acceptable either...

auntie sin...what can i do????

tink...XO

original sin · 13 Sep 2003, 20:16

JJ

I’m sorry I can’t help you. I have no idea when, where, if, this may happen .
No all members read this topic so you may be better off starting a thread to ask everyone for help either in General or Off Topic. Someone may have the answer for you.
However if you really are going insane then I may be able to offer some assistance

Try appealing for help and come back if you still feel this way

original sin · 13 Sep 2003, 20:17

Tink

I think the important thing is to hang on the fact that there is a lot of kindness and goodness about.
When people appear to be “nasty” there is usually a reason for this, although it is not necessarily the one they are voicing.
I believe that we all need to be true to ourselves, if we can examine our conscious and have no query of other motives on our actions, then that should be our indicator.
You say you see things happening that aren’t allowed, and in that case others will be seeing it too, so you need to wait and see if it is rectified.
Do not let anger and frustration drive you to act in any way that is not your style.

Sue K · 13 Sep 2003, 20:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by original sin

Tink

I think the important thing is to hang on the fact that there is a lot of kindness and goodness about.
When people appear to be “nasty” there is usually a reason for this, although it is not necessarily the one they are voicing.
I believe that we all need to be true to ourselves, if we can examine our conscious and have no query of other motives on our actions, then that should be our indicator.
You say you see things happening that aren’t allowed, and in that case others will be seeing it too, so you need to wait and see if it is rectified.
Do not let anger and frustration drive you to act in any way that is not your style.

thank you for your wise words...

tink...

**The Flying Mouse** · 14 Sep 2003, 05:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by tink

dear auntie sin...

i warned you i'd make my way to here sometime with a problem..and here i yam...

auntie sin...i find that the majority of the people that post on this forum are very nice...just here to talk about Meat and chitchat back and forth...but there's some i find to be downright nasty...i want to call them bad names...however i know that is flaming and not allowed...sometimes i find myself wanting to reach through the screen and rip their heads off..but that's not a possibility either....i don't have the stamina or ability to wrote eloquently...and i get so dang angry ..i just want to tell them to f ...off...but i know that's not acceptable either...

auntie sin...what can i do????

tink...XO

If anyone has a problem on the forums the appropriate course of action is to contact a moderator.

Dave · 14 Sep 2003, 05:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE FLYING MOUSE

If anyone has a problem on the forums the appropriate course of action is to contact a moderator.

I could not agree more. Posting things like this is only meant to cause tempers to flare and start new issues.

ROCK ON FIRE BALL!!!

Sue K · 14 Sep 2003, 05:52

... apologies....

tink...

12 Aug 2003, 01:53	#352
Bren The Bat Join Date: 23.03.2003 Location: Roosting on a Silver-Black Phantom Bike. Posts: 10,017	Mrs Mouse , so sorry to hear this....try to remember the good times the following is a poem i wrote when grieving My thoughts fall in to the emptiness unspoken. whatever i do and whatever i say The silence steals my words away. Tomorrow is broken i think of things i should have done and words i should have spoken.... But love was always there unbroken This and our memories are the tokens left for us to remember you by. That same love which often went unspoken is now the strength that sees us through when with grief, the heart is broken. just my thoughts... thinking of you Bren

12 Aug 2003, 02:03	#353
CarolM Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.06.2003 Location: Near The End Of The Line Posts: 1,498	thanx bren that poem says it all, how im feeling, how i have felt over the past few weeks, and how i feel always. This is such a comfort thanx Bren best wishes Carolxxx

12 Aug 2003, 08:51	#354
Tim The Butcher Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Westervoort, The Netherlands Posts: 10,321	Beautifull poem Bren. That is the only thing i have to say at this moment.

12 Aug 2003, 14:54	#356
original sin Sinner Join Date: 15.04.2003 Location: cyber space Posts: 2,457	Mrs Mouse Its a well worn phrase but true "Time is a great healer". The wound closes but the scars remain, you just adjust to living with them. Two passages/poems give me strength and I'll share them here but I have pm'd you also. 1 Thessalonians ch 3 v 13-18 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so those who also sleep in Jesus God will bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that, we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to 1meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words. and also Death is Nothing At All Death is nothing at all. I have only slipped away into the next room. I am I and You are You. Whatever we were to each other, that we still are. Call me by my old familiar name, Speak to me in the easy way which you always used. Put no difference in your tone, Wear no forced air of solemnity or sorrow. Laugh as we always laughed At the little jokes we enjoyed together. Pray, smile, think of me, pray for me Let my name be the household word that it always was. Let it be spoken without effect, without the trace of a shadow on it. Life means all that it ever meant. It is the same as it ever was; There is unbroken continuity. Why should I be out of mind because I am out of sight? I am waiting for you, for an interval, somewhere very near, just round the corner. All is well My thoughts are with you and Mousie get comfort from each other and from the knowledge that you have many friends here in cyberspace. Sinxxx

13 Aug 2003, 00:58	#357
CarolM Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.06.2003 Location: Near The End Of The Line Posts: 1,498	to all you guys on the forums thanx for all your support, kind words and readings and lovely poem, this has helped me a lot beleive me you are all priceless, also mousie couldnt of gone through it without you hun, you have all kept me together, thanx really from my heart you are all one in a million, best wishes to you all.Carol and Mousie. xxx

13 Aug 2003, 01:12	#358
Tim The Butcher Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Westervoort, The Netherlands Posts: 10,321	Carol and Neil, now you know where you can talk if you have a problem... a lot of people are happy to help you with it. I know from my own experience! The Butcher. Ps. thanks to all who send me a pm.

13 Aug 2003, 01:22	#359
CarolM Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.06.2003 Location: Near The End Of The Line Posts: 1,498	Thanx Timmy, iam now a happy bunny so is mousie. oops or should i say happy mousies oh well. back to aunty sin now.

03 Sep 2003, 23:37	#361
Tim The Butcher Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Westervoort, The Netherlands Posts: 10,321	Mmm... long time no posts in this topic. No more problems?? or has everybody forgotten about this topic??? The Butcher.

04 Sep 2003, 00:03	#362
Bren The Bat Join Date: 23.03.2003 Location: Roosting on a Silver-Black Phantom Bike. Posts: 10,017	everyone discusses their problems on Post whores methinks, instead of here at the moment Bren

05 Sep 2003, 01:49	#366
Tim The Butcher Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Westervoort, The Netherlands Posts: 10,321	Dear Sin, I've got a problem with the God person... he's is answering very strange in: Get to know you topic in offtopic... He is talking about the last cd that he bought is the Australian CHSIB album..... THat makes me think. Can you please help me with finding out who is fooling around here?? The Butcher.

13 Sep 2003, 04:42	#368
JJ Senior Loafer Join Date: 07.07.2003 Location: Near the end of the line. UK Posts: 100	Hello there father It's been several weeks since my last confession.........oops! wrong place! Sorry about that! strange too considering I'm not even Catholic! I Do have a problem though.....does anyone know when the Jim Steinman/MTV version of 'Wuthering Heights' will be shown over here??? I've been annoying my neighbour who has satellite (because I dont), thinking it was on this Sunday (which it is) but only to find that that's MTV America.....not Europe!! (How was I to know there's more than one damn it??!!) Stupid channels! Any ideas?? I've looked on the Neverland and Dream Pollution sites but they don't help. Pleeease just a hint someone????? I'm going insaaanne!!!!

13 Sep 2003, 05:39	#369
Sue K Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.04.2003 Posts: 13,041	dear auntie sin... i warned you i'd make my way to here sometime with a problem..and here i yam... auntie sin...i find that the majority of the people that post on this forum are very nice...just here to talk about Meat and chitchat back and forth...but there's some i find to be downright nasty...i want to call them bad names...however i know that is flaming and not allowed...sometimes i find myself wanting to reach through the screen and rip their heads off..but that's not a possibility either....i don't have the stamina or ability to wrote eloquently...and i get so dang angry ..i just want to tell them to f ...off...but i know that's not acceptable either... auntie sin...what can i do???? tink...XO

13 Sep 2003, 20:16	#370
original sin Sinner Join Date: 15.04.2003 Location: cyber space Posts: 2,457	JJ I’m sorry I can’t help you. I have no idea when, where, if, this may happen . No all members read this topic so you may be better off starting a thread to ask everyone for help either in General or Off Topic. Someone may have the answer for you. However if you really are going insane then I may be able to offer some assistance Try appealing for help and come back if you still feel this way

13 Sep 2003, 20:17	#371
original sin Sinner Join Date: 15.04.2003 Location: cyber space Posts: 2,457	Tink I think the important thing is to hang on the fact that there is a lot of kindness and goodness about. When people appear to be “nasty” there is usually a reason for this, although it is not necessarily the one they are voicing. I believe that we all need to be true to ourselves, if we can examine our conscious and have no query of other motives on our actions, then that should be our indicator. You say you see things happening that aren’t allowed, and in that case others will be seeing it too, so you need to wait and see if it is rectified. Do not let anger and frustration drive you to act in any way that is not your style.

14 Sep 2003, 05:52	#375
Sue K Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.04.2003 Posts: 13,041	... apologies.... tink...