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Old 28 Oct 2012, 22:33   #351
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And i'm locking this till i've had my did dins.
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Old 28 Oct 2012, 22:57   #352
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OK, the burning issue first.
I had southern fried chicken, it was very nice, thank you
(I can't help thinking this post would have got more likes if I had put some bacon into the mix )

Right.
It might be "ignorant" not to consider the performance in wider context, but we know what will happen. It'll turn into a debate on weather Meat can still sing or not. Rows will start over it, posts will be reported, edit will follow edit, and the post will lose it's meaning and end up locked.

Like it or not, we know that's what's going to end up happening.

That's why i've said to discuss the performance at hand (as well as the issue of Meat's endocement of Romney.

This thread has got debate enough for us all without adding "has Meat still got it" into the mix.

I'm going to try and clean the thread up a little to bring things back to the discussion at hand.

No, it's not perfect, and I don't want to surpress people's oppinions, but it's the best option I can see to keep this thread on track and open.

This is a big issue that obviously means a lot to the folks posting here, and i'd like everyone to be able to have their say.
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Old 28 Oct 2012, 23:20   #353
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.... ON topic, Meat's performance at the rally was far from his best
Which I have also said more than once. That I understand why doesn't make it a better performance .. simply that I do understand, and treat it as a single event
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Old 29 Oct 2012, 01:47   #354
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It might be "ignorant" not to consider the performance in wider context, but we know what will happen. It'll turn into a debate on weather Meat can still sing or not. Rows will start over it, posts will be reported, edit will follow edit, and the post will lose it's meaning and end up locked.
TBH that's what I was most concerned about.

We KNOW he can do better. His pipes may not be what they used to be, but with proper warm ups (and properly mixed with effects and possibly slight auto-tune) he can do a good performance.

It's just the fact that he could have NOT done it or at the very least keep it to low notes. He tried to belt it out and it sort of made him look foolish. It's like the equivalent of me doing an impromptu performance with an untuned guitar, That's why I made the comment about losing his wits, because as a professional performer he should know better.

I think that it's counter productive to just brush it off. I may critique the big guy, but I love him nonetheless.
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Old 29 Oct 2012, 02:00   #355
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For a long time, fans who dared to say that they were more interested in the music than in the man have been heavily criticized and accused of not being "true fans". They were labelled "haters" and "enemies". If you didn't unconditionally support everything Meat Loaf said or did, whether it was related to his music or not, you had to prepare to take flak. Now we're told to separate the music from the man. Puzzling.
Ha. Amen Brother.

I've always tried to separate the man(or woman)from the music or any other sort of art that they do. Especially these days when you know EVERYTHING that a celebrity does because of the internet...
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Old 29 Oct 2012, 03:11   #356
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How the hell does endorsing a republican over a democrat, which is basically the same damn thing anyway, call Meat's character in question.


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Didn't we already go over this earlier in the thread?
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Old 29 Oct 2012, 03:55   #357
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Didn't we already go over this earlier in the thread?
Over and over and over and over and over again. it's been gone over multiple times by several people, myself included.
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Old 29 Oct 2012, 05:31   #358
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Old 29 Oct 2012, 07:10   #359
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Which I have also said more than once. That I understand why doesn't make it a better performance .. simply that I do understand, and treat it as a single event
Well, understand this - I responded properly to your original post but it was deleted - so I can only make an edited answer...

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Old 29 Oct 2012, 08:03   #360
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Sorry but that is a really really poor point. You can't compare Meat with other artist of his age for obvious reasons. The most obvious reason is that I don't think there is any other artist out there that sings songs as hard on the voice as Meat Loaf.

I will tell you I am a good singer, i have a good range, and I can sing pretty much any artists songs, and i can tell you that whereas i can sing entire albums from other artists and bands, it's a struggle to get through Meat Loaf albums! He has undoubtedly the hardest songs to sing, and he's been doing it for 40+ years ffs! Of course his voice will never be the same as it was, he's had 3+ surgeries on it for a start, done so many back to back shows when he was advised that with these types of songs that are so hard he would damage his voice doing back to back shows, but he needed to capitalise on his success at the time and that's what the record companies scheduled him to do.

But when he's rested, and when he's well prepared and warmed up, he can still blow other singers out of the water. He can still hit notes others can't. Just look at Bat on the DVD. The hardest notes for him to still hit from any of his songs are the high C's at the end and he still can. Even Russell Watson can't hit them as i remember from when he sung with Meat that time.

Meat is 65, yet still charges around the stage like he's 35, doing incredibly hard song after incredibly hard song. After a show he has literally nothing left, and yet you really think he should be able to do a show the next day as well just as well as the night before?
Oh I see, it's because Meat Loaf songs are 'harder to sing' than any other singer's songs. See, now I might think that THAT is delusional (along with the rest of the post)... but it doesn't mean I'm going to attack YOU over it (like you have done here, to me, in the post above). If you can't stay civil, all discussion's off.

I'll keep my own comments to the Romney performance in this thread, and make sure I don't prick my foot on the eggshells while I'm at it.

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Old 29 Oct 2012, 08:16   #361
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