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[duke knooby]

read it now, thanks

[MeatGrl1]

Hates when people take a simple joke too far so it's lost all humour !

[melon]

Originally Posted by duke knooby

read it now, thanks

No worries!

[duke knooby]

derren is on tonight

[Sarge]

For a second I thought someone had returned to this place but it was just someone else using that member's avatar.

[duke knooby]

that was a good documentary about marketing meat for the bat 2 campaign


when russel watson performed with meat, was the whole concert filmed or just bat???

[duke knooby]

tis a bit wet out

[duke knooby]

where have the negative comments been made about the afl performance etc etc... is it mainly on facebook/twitter/youtube comments?

[Sebastian.]

Originally Posted by duke knooby

where have the negative comments been made about the afl performance etc etc... is it mainly on facebook/twitter/youtube comments?

Pretty much. Plus the New Papers/companies websites.

[duke knooby]

that would explain why i haven't seen very many... dont have fb or twitter, and didnt read many youtube comments... made my own mind up

and as the newpapers are in oz, didnt go searching for what they were saying lol

if it hadn't been for here i probably would have had no idea the media/cyber bullies/sheep were being so harsh

[melon]

We all know that people are gonna hate, there is always a portion, its the nature of the beast, but why do they have to be so harsh and mean to a guy they don't even know, if they did they would know he doesn't deserve the treatment he has gotten.

[Vickip]

Originally Posted by melon

We all know that people are gonna hate, there is always a portion, its the nature of the beast, but why do they have to be so harsh and mean to a guy they don't even know, if they did they would know he doesn't deserve the treatment he has gotten.

Couldn't have said it better myself Mel.

[juniper]

Originally Posted by melon

We all know that people are gonna hate, there is always a portion, its the nature of the beast, but why do they have to be so harsh and mean to a guy they don't even know, if they did they would know he doesn't deserve the treatment he has gotten.

easier to hate one they don't even know.

[SueL]

Originally Posted by melon

We all know that people are gonna hate, there is always a portion, its the nature of the beast, but why do they have to be so harsh and mean to a guy they don't even know, if they did they would know he doesn't deserve the treatment he has gotten.

Why people must be so downright UGLY escapes me. There must be something seriously lacking in their own lives to make them lash out at others so maliciously. Perhaps it is easier doing that than attempting to confront their own demons in an effort to make things right from within?

A reviewer must, imo, be totally unbiased - it should be a professional requirement of the job, but naturally, an unbiased nature can't be policed. Sure, not every review is going to be positive, but there is absolutely no need for brutal, poisonous personal flaying.

And as Mel points out, Meat certainly doesn't deserve this treatment. Not only is Meat imo one of the greatest performers of all time, he is a true humanitarian. He is a NICE man. He's a passionate man, and passion, imo, is one of Meat's cornerstone traits that makes him such an unforgettable performer. And yes, sometimes the passion manifests in other ways, such as self-defense, but Meat is not a bronze statue - he is a human being.

Meat's exhaustive efforts on Celebrity Apprentice on behalf of his charity, The Painted Turtle, were simply incredibly. And, when frustrated by circumstances he could not control, he was shamelessly moved to tears on behalf of the kids of The Painted Turtle. Did he care that his tears would be seen by millions? No, of course not, because that is the kind of man Meat is ~ unafraid to show his human side, and it's that human side that makes me especially proud to be a life-long Meat Loaf fan.

Just sayin'.


Sue

[melon]

Oh and now its my turn for the kick in the guts..... pleasant

[lyn]

Originally Posted by SueL

Why people must be so downright UGLY escapes me. There must be something seriously lacking in their own lives to make them lash out at others so maliciously. Perhaps it is easier doing that than attempting to confront their own demons in an effort to make things right from within?

A reviewer must, imo, be totally unbiased - it should be a professional requirement of the job, but naturally, an unbiased nature can't be policed. Sure, not every review is going to be positive, but there is absolutely no need for brutal, poisonous personal flaying.

And as Mel points out, Meat certainly doesn't deserve this treatment. Not only is Meat imo one of the greatest performers of all time, he is a true humanitarian. He is a NICE man. He's a passionate man, and passion, imo, is one of Meat's cornerstone traits that makes him such an unforgettable performer. And yes, sometimes the passion manifests in other ways, such as self-defense, but Meat is not a bronze statue - he is a human being.

Meat's exhaustive efforts on Celebrity Apprentice on behalf of his charity, The Painted Turtle, were simply incredibly. And, when frustrated by circumstances he could not control, he was shamelessly moved to tears on behalf of the kids of The Painted Turtle. Did he care that his tears would be seen by millions? No, of course not, because that is the kind of man Meat is ~ unafraid to show his human side, and it's that human side that makes me especially proud to be a life-long Meat Loaf fan.

Just sayin'.


Sue

Couldn't agree more SueL! People have little to do, they really do! They are simply sick and twisted individuals with nothing else to do. Most likely on government benifits and not wanting to work, so they bully people on line! But they only go that far as they haven't got the balls to face people, like Meat, in person! You know, even though I'm only 32, I was brought up old school, like many. If I was caught being nasty that way, I would have got a serve, a smack and priviledges taken away. I was always taught you had to respect others, there opinions, tell the truth, show love and care and compassion. To show common courtesy! But these days! Well the evidence is here and on face book! It's horrid! Old traditions have gone and the younger generation just don't care! As for the press, they are getting worse and worse, and they don't care who they leave in their wake. It's a Mad Mad World we live in!

[lyn]

Originally Posted by juniper

easier to hate one they don't even know.

That's a bit unfair isn't it????????? You would be not considering the fact what sort of a person they could be!!!! You take Meat! I haven't met him, but wish to! I listen to ALL his music, I try and help out TPT/LFTT, I read stuff about him, I discuss him in groups, and you know what? I love the guy! There is nothing to hate there mate!!!! He's loving, caring, compassionate, big hearted, charismatic, and just a beautiful soul! And I didn't learn that from knowing him in the flesh, but from what I was reading and hearing about him, and from going to his concert too! As the age old saying goes "Don't judge a book by it's cover!"

[lyn]

Originally Posted by melon

We all know that people are gonna hate, there is always a portion, its the nature of the beast, but why do they have to be so harsh and mean to a guy they don't even know, if they did they would know he doesn't deserve the treatment he has gotten.

Couldn't agree with you more there Melon! Unfortunately though, the next generations coming up the line have a totally differently attitude in life and don't really get taught all the morals etc in life! How to treat people, well they don't seem to comprehend how to do that properly! I'm lucky, where I'm sending Jessica to school, they teach all this stuff and with Dave and I teaching her that to she is in for a better chance in life and won't be so rude and crude like the younger ones bagging out Meat now! If only they took a moment to know the guy, then they might change their ways!

[juniper]

Originally Posted by lyn

That's a bit unfair isn't it????????? You would be not considering the fact what sort of a person they could be!!!! You take Meat! I haven't met him, but wish to! I listen to ALL his music, I try and help out TPT/LFTT, I read stuff about him, I discuss him in groups, and you know what? I love the guy! There is nothing to hate there mate!!!! He's loving, caring, compassionate, big hearted, charismatic, and just a beautiful soul! And I didn't learn that from knowing him in the flesh, but from what I was reading and hearing about him, and from going to his concert too! As the age old saying goes "Don't judge a book by it's cover!"

uuhh, I think you totally miscontrued and missed my point. From a societal viewpoint, I do believe, perhaps, it's easier for people to cyber-bully someone anonymously, someone they do not even know, because if they were for one second to know someone, for example, Meat Loaf, they would not cyber-bully them or be a hater.

[SueL]

Originally Posted by lyn

Couldn't agree more SueL! People have little to do, they really do! They are simply sick and twisted individuals with nothing else to do. Most likely on government benifits and not wanting to work, so they bully people on line! But they only go that far as they haven't got the balls to face people, like Meat, in person! You know, even though I'm only 32, I was brought up old school, like many. If I was caught being nasty that way, I would have got a serve, a smack and priviledges taken away. I was always taught you had to respect others, there opinions, tell the truth, show love and care and compassion. To show common courtesy! But these days! Well the evidence is here and on face book! It's horrid! Old traditions have gone and the younger generation just don't care! As for the press, they are getting worse and worse, and they don't care who they leave in their wake. It's a Mad Mad World we live in!

Thanks, Lyn; I agree with everything you said as well. And as for it being a Mad, Mad World, whoa!, how true is that? To Hell in a Handbasket could not be a more apt title for Meat's latest album.

If the human race doesn't wise up enough to stop things from spiraling so out of control and it all falls straight into hell, all hope is gone for future generations. And that's damn scary.

Sue

[SueL]

Originally Posted by juniper

uuhh, I think you totally miscontrued and missed my point. From a societal viewpoint, I do believe, perhaps, it's easier for people to cyber-bully someone anonymously, someone they do not even know, because if they were for one second to know someone, for example, Meat Loaf, they would not cyber-bully them or be a hater.

Originally Posted by lyn
That's a bit unfair isn't it????????? You would be not considering the fact what sort of a person they could be!!!! You take Meat! I haven't met him, but wish to! I listen to ALL his music, I try and help out TPT/LFTT, I read stuff about him, I discuss him in groups, and you know what? I love the guy! There is nothing to hate there mate!!!! He's loving, caring, compassionate, big hearted, charismatic, and just a beautiful soul! And I didn't learn that from knowing him in the flesh, but from what I was reading and hearing about him, and from going to his concert too! As the age old saying goes "Don't judge a book by it's cover!"

Hi Lyn!! I just realized when I finished my last message (it was to you), that we have talked many times on FB. You know I tell it like I see it, and I do think you mis-interpreted Juniper's post.

What I think happened is that we're all trying to convey our own feelings about this "hate factor" that is so abhorrent to everyone, and we're all saying it differently but meaning the same thing. I think "seeing" Meat so upset today has thrown everyone for a loop, but Juniper is one of the good guys. Who is a girl.

Do you know what I'm trying to say? More often than not, I confuse myself! But not this time. It's cool, believe me.

Sue

[juniper]

Originally Posted by SueL

Originally Posted by lyn
That's a bit unfair isn't it????????? You would be not considering the fact what sort of a person they could be!!!! You take Meat! I haven't met him, but wish to! I listen to ALL his music, I try and help out TPT/LFTT, I read stuff about him, I discuss him in groups, and you know what? I love the guy! There is nothing to hate there mate!!!! He's loving, caring, compassionate, big hearted, charismatic, and just a beautiful soul! And I didn't learn that from knowing him in the flesh, but from what I was reading and hearing about him, and from going to his concert too! As the age old saying goes "Don't judge a book by it's cover!"

Hi Lyn!! I just realized when I finished my last message (it was to you), that we have talked many times on FB. You know I tell it like I see it, and I do think you mis-interpreted Juniper's post.

What I think happened is that we're all trying to convey our own feelings about this "hate factor" that is so abhorrent to everyone, and we're all saying it differently but meaning the same thing. I think "seeing" Meat so upset today has thrown everyone for a loop, but Juniper is one of the good guys. Who is a girl.

Do you know what I'm trying to say? More often than not, I confuse myself! But not this time. It's cool, believe me.

Sue

Thank you Sue! Emotions are running high! We love our guy and it's hard to see him going through this.

[melon]

Hrmm, seeing as all seems to be ok in the land of loaf tonight, I may make it to bed before midnight tonight!! Oh that will be so gooooood.

Its been regularly 2/3/4am bed times since halfway through the Aussie Tour lol..... It was 4.30am bed after the Perth concert lmao

I am shattered.... the other night I actually had twitches.....

[A Slice Of English]

Girl: What was Earth called before man existed?

Me: By whom...?

[duke knooby]

failed me exam with 72%

shouldda done some work for it