Meat's 2015 plans?

[Gez]

Great...potential...news.
Hopefully find that piggy bank I asked the wife to move...

This is what it's all about, Great News Meat

[Meat Loaf_fan]

Originally Posted by Tina

He wrote this today on Facebook:

Meat Loaf : WE might do 2 to 5 of shows in the UK in 2015, the O2, Manchester , and Edinburgh, Scotland . Before going to Poland and Russia. Then South America and do the " Last at bat tour in Australia. Also more shows in Vegas. The new album has 6 Jim Steinman songs on the Record, Total of 14 songs on the record. IT is a great record !!!! M

Erm... really?

Great ... Super news to all fans.

Originally Posted by Tina

He wrote this today on Facebook:

Before going to Poland ... !!!! M

This is (for me) the most exciting part.

[anotherday]

God I wish we could get LAB IN US!!!!!!!

[Ollie241189]

Originally Posted by Fire Ball

Body is not one of them , That song is under contract for the Musical .
Meat

Meat... Excitment has just flooded me hearing the news at the top of this thread! But please, please, please do a recording of What Part Of My Body Hurts The Most please? Even if it's just a B-Side. Good god, Meat, that song is made for your voice... And if you need a duet partner... I'm always a call away lol

[Evil One]

Why the bloody hell would you want to waste such a superb song as a B-side?

There's no reason why Meat can't record the song and release it at a later date though.

[AndrewG]

Originally Posted by Evil One

Why the bloody hell would you want to waste such a superb song as a B-side?

There's no reason why Meat can't record the song and release it at a later date though.

2014 question: What's a B-side?

Given the fact Meat hasn't released a "b side" since 2006 AFAIK I think it's highly unlikely any amount of effort would go into such a process, let alone an amazing song.

BTW given the fact Stuart Beattie's "I, frankenstein" completely bombed at the cinema box office and got terrible reviews even with regards to HIS screenplay I think the chances of Bat out of Hell The Musical still happening are getting slimmer still.... (he was suppossed to be working on the book for the musical)

[Evil Ernie]

Originally Posted by Tina

Meat Loaf : The new album has 6 Jim Steinman songs[/COLOR]

Originally Posted by Fire Ball

Body is not one of them.

[tonyloaf]

Originally Posted by AndrewG

2014 question: What's a B-side?

Given the fact Meat hasn't released a "b side" since 2006 AFAIK I think it's highly unlikely any amount of effort would go into such a process, let alone an amazing song.

BTW given the fact Stuart Beattie's "I, frankenstein" completely bombed at the cinema box office and got terrible reviews even with regards to HIS screenplay I think the chances of Bat out of Hell The Musical still happening are getting slimmer still.... (he was suppossed to be working on the book for the musical)

we can hope

[TheDoode]

Originally Posted by AndrewG

2014 question: What's a B-side?

Given the fact Meat hasn't released a "b side" since 2006 AFAIK I think it's highly unlikely any amount of effort would go into such a process, let alone an amazing song.

Ahem. Prize Fight Lover.

[nikox1]

Body is a great song, but who's to say some of the new ones ain't better? Brave and crazy is a good title etc, but I think it could be given another title? Maybe call it renegade angel? Always loved that title

[CarylB]

I think Brave and Crazy fits Meat much better Renegade Angel sounds like a Steinman title, and whilst it may have 6 Steinman compositions it has 8 more, and it will be a Meat album. This could be his last album (apart from the Christmas one), and Brave & Crazy just sums up this amazing man's career imo .. his approach, his strength, the way he's kicked obstacles out of the way, his refusal to back down in the face of difficulty, his vision for the big and spectacular, his constant pursuit of that elusive perfect show.

Meat may change it by the time it's released, but I think it's perfect. You need to be both brave and not a little crazy to push ahead and succeed in the way he has done all his life

[nikox1]

Each to there own I guess? I like brave and crazy, but I just have a feeling it might not stay that. Tom cochrane has a song called brave and crazy? = maybe meat recorded that? Hence the title. Didn't he do cochranes mad mad world?

[AndrewG]

Originally Posted by TheDoode

Ahem. Prize Fight Lover.

That wasn't a B Side that was a free released download track AFAIK.

It got my hopes up that HCTB was going to sound more like that song like a Steinman/Springsteen hybrid but I actually thought it was somewhat misleading since the song wasn't even on the album. But it's a whole different story....

Sure they could do that with Body but it wouldn't make sense. If Meat can't add it to the album because of contracts etc it's just not going to happen.

To be fair most of the songs that have impressed me most are the ones I didn't know before: Anything for Love, PFL, Objects, Blind as a Bat, DIST, CHSIB., What about Love. etc...

[renegadeangel]

Originally Posted by Evil One

Why the bloody hell would you want to waste such a superb song as a B-side?

There's no reason why Meat can't record the song and release it at a later date though.

My guess is that because its under contract as well as all the other newer Steinman songs that wè`ve heard about, Meat will probably never get the chance to record them. It might all tie in with the deal involving BAT3 and Steinman`s Bat musical agreement.
Or maybe Steinman just said no.

[renegadeangel]

Originally Posted by CarylB

I think Brave and Crazy fits Meat much better Renegade Angel sounds like a Steinman title, and whilst it may have 6 Steinman compositions it has 8 more, and it will be a Meat album. This could be his last album (apart from the Christmas one), and Brave & Crazy just sums up this amazing man's career imo .. his approach, his strength, the way he's kicked obstacles out of the way, his refusal to back down in the face of difficulty, his vision for the big and spectacular, his constant pursuit of that elusive perfect show.

Meat may change it by the time it's released, but I think it's perfect. You need to be both brave and not a little crazy to push ahead and succeed in the way he has done all his life

Very true.
However CHISIB was supposed to be FUNHOUSE and then TESTIFY
HCTB had a working title of BULL IN A CHINA SHOP
BAT 2 was going to be called NEVERLAND
Even going back to DEADRINGER was at one point called I`LL KILL YOU IF YOU DON`T COME BACK but that was more Steinman`s idea
Point is it could be anything until it actually comes out.
I would also be of the opinion that Steinman may have some input into the title as he is clearly more onboard than he was in the beginning.
Gone from 2 to 6 songs and it wouldn`t surprise me to see it go to 10.

[CarylB]

Originally Posted by nikox1

Didn't he do Cochranes mad mad world?

Yes he did, on HIAH, in his own style.

Originally Posted by renegadeangel

Very true.
However CHISIB was supposed to be FUNHOUSE and then TESTIFY
HCTB had a working title of BULL IN A CHINA SHOP
BAT 2 was going to be called NEVERLAND
Even going back to DEADRINGER was at one point called I`LL KILL YOU IF YOU DON`T COME BACK but that was more Steinman`s idea
Point is it could be anything until it actually comes out.

Of course. I'm aware of all the working titles which were revised, and I said Meat may change it. I was simply responding to the suggestion "Renegade Angel" would be better, and saying why I thought Brave & Crazy was a wonderfully apposite title for a Meat album which might be his last, and saying why.

I would also be of the opinion that Steinman may have some input into the title as he is clearly more onboard than he was in the beginning.
Gone from 2 to 6 songs and it wouldn`t surprise me to see it go to 10.

Perhaps .. but it's Meat's album, and his decision imo. From everything I've heard Steinman has been "on board" for a long time in terms of delivering songs for the album. Meat says 6 plus 8 others, and this came across as what he's going with. I'm more than happy with that. He has some other great writers on board and I'm looking forward to those equally. They have already written songs for Meat which I have loved and with which I could connect powerfully today. I think it's about balance

[Evil One]

Originally Posted by CarylB

I was simply responding to the suggestion "Renegade Angel" would be better, and saying why I thought Brave & Crazy was a wonderfully apposite title for a Meat album

I think Brave & Crazy is the better title of the two. I think Renegade Angel is a pretty poor title to be honest.

[Tina.K.]

Aren't 14 songs too much?

It's about quality, not quantity. IMO 10 songs are way enough, focussing on those 10 might give better quality? But I don't know how the recordbusiness works. Maybe they demand a minimum amount of songs.

[Evil One]

All I know is that 14 songs is enough to get the album banned from Walmart.

[nikox1]

Bat 3 had 14 I think?

[Tina.K.]

Originally Posted by nikox1

Bat 3 had 14 I think?

Exactly my point.

[CarylB]

Originally Posted by Tina

Aren't 14 songs too much?

It's about quality, not quantity. IMO 10 songs are way enough, focussing on those 10 might give better quality? But I don't know how the recordbusiness works. Maybe they demand a minimum amount of songs.

Well for me Meat only and always delivers quality. It also depends on the length of the songs.

This isn't a Bat album, so I compare with his last three albums, (and any comparison to Bat 3 is likely to lead to disapprobation from thise here who have little regard for it.

HCTB had 14, HIAH had 12, CHSIB had 12 plus the instrumental. These are imo 3 great albums, and they are the ones I listen to the most. So 14 will not be too much for me .. and I trust Meat to make the decisions on choice and the number of songs .. it's one more thing he does best

[CarylB]

And I was right ...

Although personally I love Bat 3, and that one was quality too!

I'll taste the finished apple pie, He hasn't baked a poor one yet .. has he Paul? (Crook)

[AndrewG]

Originally Posted by renegadeangel

BAT 2 was going to be called NEVERLAND

I never heard that one before.
I did remember seeing on the Hits out of Hell VHS tape that it said in the end credits: "Look out for my reunion project with Jim Steinman in 1992: Bat out of Hell (Part 2)."

[AndrewG]

Originally Posted by Tina

Aren't 14 songs too much?

It's about quality, not quantity. IMO 10 songs are way enough, focussing on those 10 might give better quality? But I don't know how the recordbusiness works. Maybe they demand a minimum amount of songs.

I don't think there is a contractual obligation for length?
In the past I've just taken that on board as Meat and Jim quite often want to give us excess as well. Bad For Good needed a single to fit the extra songs on. Bat 2 was pushing near CD length limit, as was Bat 3 pretty much. Others have been quite long too. Normally at least 60-65 minutes.

A lot of artists get away with 10/11/12 songs and 40-45 minutes for Audio CDs in my buying experience.