Rank the Songs Greatest To Least: Jim Steinman's Bad For Good - Page 2

Pudding · 11 Sep 2010, 00:49

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Originally Posted by Evil One

You are inventing facts to suit your arguement.

He HAS an argument

I thought he was just talking shit

Wario · 11 Sep 2010, 00:52

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Originally Posted by duke knooby

spot the wannabe mod

ive a question though...

are the songs being ranked as songs, or are the songs being ranked as that version of the song?

that version of the song of course

thats why frying pan is dead last. its not a jim song jim can sing

Evil One · 11 Sep 2010, 00:53

But the arrangement is far superior to that of Bat 2. It's a shame about the singing though.

duke knooby · 11 Sep 2010, 00:54

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

thats why frying pan is dead last. its not a jim song jim can sing

what about the jim songs rory sang? are they included?

24K · 11 Sep 2010, 00:55

My rating is the whole lot is shite, sorry but imo Jim can't sing, i listened to it a few times, but just did nowt for me !

However as a songwriter Jim is immense !

Wario · 11 Sep 2010, 00:59

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Originally Posted by duke knooby

what about the jim songs rory sang? are they included?

of course

Steve6 · 11 Sep 2010, 01:00

I've but forward some facts which are the truth in my opinion, and I'm leaving it at that. Jim didn't get greedy or look for self glory. The gun was put to his head and he had to release the album. An album that Meat Loaf didn't like and probaly didn't want to record anyway even though he couldn't. If Jim was becoming so self obsessed and wanting all the attention for himself why give Meat Loaf a whole album of songs to record?

Evil One · 11 Sep 2010, 01:02

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Originally Posted by Steve6

I've but forward some facts which are the truth in my opinion

Research the meaning of these three words. It is important.

Pudding · 11 Sep 2010, 01:03

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Originally Posted by 24K

My rating is the whole lot is shite, sorry but imo Jim can't sing, i listened to it a few times, but just did nowt for me !

What about the songs Jim didn't sing on?

Evil One · 11 Sep 2010, 01:08

I don't really think much to Rory Dodd's singing either if I'm honest.

Steve6 · 11 Sep 2010, 01:10

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Originally Posted by Pudding

What about the songs Jim didn't sing on?

I have to say when I heard the record I thought it was Jim all the way through. His voice is identical to Rory Dodds. You can paint both of them with the same brush to be fair.

Sarge · 11 Sep 2010, 01:15

*Recalling Bad For Good*: Great songs, weak vocals, risible videos.

24K · 11 Sep 2010, 01:30

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Originally Posted by Pudding

What about the songs Jim didn't sing on?

To be fair its 2 years since i listened to it, what i should have said was that i think Jim can't sing. I do remember the duet Karla did Dance in My Pants i thought was canny. In honesty i suppose i need to listen to it again and then comment on what i thought of the songs that Jim didn't sing on. I just couldn't get into it much, so did not perserve with it.

Evil One · 11 Sep 2010, 01:34

I think the overall quality of the production is not on a par with Bat Out Of Hell. It may not have been done on the cheap, but it sort of sounds like it.

Steve6 · 11 Sep 2010, 02:02

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Originally Posted by Evil One

I think the overall quality of the production is not on a par with Bat Out Of Hell. It may not have been done on the cheap, but it sort of sounds like it.

I agree with that totally, and the one thing that annoyed me most when listening to the record was the drums. They sounded like thrash cans, and were way to overwhelming to be honest.

Fire Ball · 11 Sep 2010, 11:06

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Originally Posted by Steve6

Meat's voice was gone and he was suffering a mental breakdown around that period too. It certainly wasn't any of Jim's fault. The record company were demanding a follow up to BOOH and Jim had to record Bad for Good himself, because Meat was in no position mentally or vocally to do so. Plus his relationship with Jim was starting to show cracks. Jim either released Bad for good or got his ass sued. You can't say "Oh he should have waited a few years"; when you are contracted to release a record by your record company you bloody well have to. They can buy and sell your ass in a heartbeat. We all know Jim could wait a decade or two to release an album, but Bad For Good had to be done. End of story.

Jim is a good singer, but he was no where near as good as Meat Loaf. I liked BFG for what it was, but it could have been better. Meat from my understanding hated all the songs on Bad for Good when he heard them at the time. Even though he did record most of them in later years.

Nothing that you wrote is true ! About the record Co. or being sued. Jim was not on the contract. End of story, BS

Pudding · 11 Sep 2010, 11:19

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Originally Posted by Fire Ball

Nothing that you wrote is true !

That's hardly a revelation. Steve6 is very temperamental, that's 50% temper and 50% mental...LOL

Sarge · 11 Sep 2010, 11:22

So much for his "common sense".

Fire Ball · 11 Sep 2010, 11:23

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Originally Posted by Steve6

I have to say when I heard the record I thought it was Jim all the way through. His voice is identical to Rory Dodds. You can paint both of them with the same brush to be fair.

MOST OF THE ALBUM IS RORY !!

Evil One · 11 Sep 2010, 12:09

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Originally Posted by Fire Ball

MOST OF THE ALBUM IS RORY !!

I thought it was about half and half? Either way Jim should have stuck to writing and left the singing to those who can actually sing.

GDW · 11 Sep 2010, 13:57

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Originally Posted by Fire Ball

MOST OF THE ALBUM IS RORY !!

Who was Milli and who was Vanilli?

Steve6 · 11 Sep 2010, 15:02

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Originally Posted by Fire Ball

Nothing that you wrote is true ! About the record Co. or being sued. Jim was not on the contract. End of story, BS

What is the truth then? Wasn't Bad for Good supposed to be Renegade Angel? Didn' the original songbook get stolen? Did Jim get greedy and go for self glory on BFG? You did say you hated the songs on BFG!!

daveake · 11 Sep 2010, 20:18

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Originally Posted by Fire Ball

MOST OF THE ALBUM IS RORY !!

We should put you in touch with Mad Susan from Rockman. She'd put you straight ...

Wario · 11 Sep 2010, 20:24

JIM:
Bad For Good
Stark Raving Love
Left In The Dark
Dance In My Pants
Frying Pan

RORY:
Lost Boys & Golden Girls
Surfs Up
Rock & Roll Dreams

most of the lead is jim, but rory is on every track (as BG Vocal)

Pudding · 12 Sep 2010, 00:55

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Originally Posted by Steve6

What is the truth then?

If you got told the truth would you believe it? Seems lately you you have an agenda on versions of facts.

11 Sep 2010, 00:53	#28
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	But the arrangement is far superior to that of Bat 2. It's a shame about the singing though.

11 Sep 2010, 00:55	#30
24K Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.10.2003 Location: WAY UP NORTH Posts: 1,923	My rating is the whole lot is shite, sorry but imo Jim can't sing, i listened to it a few times, but just did nowt for me ! However as a songwriter Jim is immense !

11 Sep 2010, 01:00	#32
Steve6 Batman Join Date: 28.11.2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,690	I've but forward some facts which are the truth in my opinion, and I'm leaving it at that. Jim didn't get greedy or look for self glory. The gun was put to his head and he had to release the album. An album that Meat Loaf didn't like and probaly didn't want to record anyway even though he couldn't. If Jim was becoming so self obsessed and wanting all the attention for himself why give Meat Loaf a whole album of songs to record?

11 Sep 2010, 01:08	#35
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	I don't really think much to Rory Dodd's singing either if I'm honest.

11 Sep 2010, 01:15	#37
Sarge Mega Loafer Join Date: 09.05.2008 Posts: 3,562	Recalling Bad For Good**: Great songs, weak vocals, risible videos.

11 Sep 2010, 01:34	#39
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	I think the overall quality of the production is not on a par with Bat Out Of Hell. It may not have been done on the cheap, but it sort of sounds like it.

11 Sep 2010, 11:22	#43
Sarge Mega Loafer Join Date: 09.05.2008 Posts: 3,562	So much for his "common sense".

11 Sep 2010, 20:24	#49
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	JIM: Bad For Good Stark Raving Love Left In The Dark Dance In My Pants Frying Pan RORY: Lost Boys & Golden Girls Surfs Up Rock & Roll Dreams most of the lead is jim, but rory is on every track (as BG Vocal)