Free official IACTMN-live 2007 - Page 2

meatloaf-unofficial · 14 Jun 2007, 18:22

I wonder if they did any others......

Ma.Ra · 14 Jun 2007, 20:25

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Originally Posted by icwuke

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That certainly isn't the live version heh.

I think they're gonna dub over with studio re recorded bits like they did with MSO DVD.

Pud... That COULD explain the studio time earlier...

WTF?!

If this is true, is that usual with concert dvds?

*AndyK* · 14 Jun 2007, 20:28

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Originally Posted by Ma.Ra

WTF?!

If this is true, is that usual with concert dvds?

There's usually an element of post-production that goes on, be it vocal fixes, remixes or overdubs. I've never heard an official live release that hadn't been tweaked somewhere along the lines.

**RadioMaster** · 14 Jun 2007, 20:45

you clearly hear the points where they blended over from live vocals to studio track. I hope that a) this isnt the version going to be on the DVD and b) that these fixes are not as much though the whole show as it is in this song.

Hypnobabe · 14 Jun 2007, 21:53

Two files received, RJ, thanks very much x

Pudding · 15 Jun 2007, 03:02

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Originally Posted by AndyK

I've never heard an official live release that hadn't been tweaked somewhere along the lines.

There's a huge difference between tweaking to get the best sound quality possible and over-dubbing. Layering studio vocals over the top of a live recording should be a big no-no!

Pud

Kev · 15 Jun 2007, 10:20

To be honest, I'm not overly arsed as long as it looks good.

Its like meat miming on the BBC, it looked fantastic and not many people would pick up on it due to the power and emotion he puts in.

The start clearly has been rerecorded and if you listen to the other live version, the tones and keys sung in are totally different.

A great example of this is the live version of FCOL.

For this song and others, the vocals were clearly not of the standard of release and would need re-doing. I really don't mind that.

The 'Marion Raven' that he says is from the live show though :P

**RadioMaster** · 15 Jun 2007, 11:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding

There's a huge difference between tweaking to get the best sound quality possible and over-dubbing. Layering studio vocals over the top of a live recording should be a big no-no!

Pud

especially if it's as obvious as here

Kev · 15 Jun 2007, 11:25

We know this because we've heard the other recording and other live recordings. A high percentage of fans won't have a clue and just think the whole thing is live.

Like I've said, I'd rather have a dvd with good vocals and sounding good rather than a DVD with crap vocals and Meat sounding/looking crap.

**RadioMaster** · 15 Jun 2007, 12:25

Nah, I'd rather have a REAL live dvd, with the whole atmosphere of the show, than listening to the studio vocals half of the time. Even if he struggles with some notes.
Otherwise I could just put the album into the cd player and have the same effect.

(didnt I say that a few posts above? ah well)

Bart · 15 Jun 2007, 14:07

Wait a minute. Which parts on the Melbourne dvd are fake?

Kev · 15 Jun 2007, 16:32

not fake, just tweaked

Bart · 15 Jun 2007, 16:54

which parts? and what does tweak mean?

Ma.Ra · 15 Jun 2007, 17:35

The better question is: "What does tweak mean for each personally?"

Evil One · 15 Jun 2007, 21:00

There's a bit in Testify for a start!

Bart · 17 Jun 2007, 10:42

What part?
When I listen to Testify and CHSIB I get the feeling that the vocals are taken from te album. Am i right aboiut that?

Pudding · 17 Jun 2007, 11:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster

Nah, I'd rather have a REAL live dvd

Me too, warts and all.

Pud

lorenzoduke · 29 Jun 2007, 16:52

Too bad they didn't record the RAH show at the start of the tour. The bootleg that has been circulating was excellent, and any overdubs could have been minimal.

Oh well. I agree with icwuke, I'd rather have a great sounding/looking DVD than one full of screw-ups. At the end of the day, whether it was live at the venue or elsewhere, it's still Meat singing.

**RadioMaster** · 29 Jun 2007, 18:28

with the massive difference in quality of the single shows it's like gambling to record a good show.

Evil One · 29 Jun 2007, 19:47

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Originally Posted by lorenzoduke

Too bad they didn't record the RAH show at the start of the tour. The bootleg that has been circulating was excellent, and any overdubs could have been minimal.

Oh well. I agree with icwuke, I'd rather have a great sounding/looking DVD than one full of screw-ups. At the end of the day, whether it was live at the venue or elsewhere, it's still Meat singing.

I don't understand why they didn't just record the audio and release it on CD. It wouldn't have been too expensive. Most of the show would have fit on one CD. I know I would have bought something like this:

01 All Revved Up intro
02 Paradise
03 You Took The Words
04 Out Of The Frying Pan
05 I'd Do Anything For Love
06 Objects In The Rear View Mirror
08 Bad For Good
09 If It Ain't Broke
10 Blind As A Bat
11 Bat Out Of Hell

Save the other songs as a reason to buy the DVD or put them on singles.

meatloaf-unofficial · 14 Jul 2007, 12:07

that would have been a cool idea Evil One - call it a promotional release for the dvd in october or soemthing like that.......

I think the IACTMN is a promotion sale for the dvd - don·t you???

14 Jun 2007, 18:22	#26
meatloaf-unofficial Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.02.2006 Location: Touring the Country Posts: 2,558	I wonder if they did any others......

14 Jun 2007, 20:45	#29
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	you clearly hear the points where they blended over from live vocals to studio track. I hope that a) this isnt the version going to be on the DVD and b) that these fixes are not as much though the whole show as it is in this song.

14 Jun 2007, 21:53	#30
Hypnobabe mszee's Mistress with sexy goddess boots Join Date: 13.07.2005 Location: Hitting the highway like a battering ram... Posts: 7,686	Two files received, RJ, thanks very much x

15 Jun 2007, 10:20	#32
Kev Just Kev Join Date: 01.06.2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,857	To be honest, I'm not overly arsed as long as it looks good. Its like meat miming on the BBC, it looked fantastic and not many people would pick up on it due to the power and emotion he puts in. The start clearly has been rerecorded and if you listen to the other live version, the tones and keys sung in are totally different. A great example of this is the live version of FCOL. For this song and others, the vocals were clearly not of the standard of release and would need re-doing. I really don't mind that. The 'Marion Raven' that he says is from the live show though :P

15 Jun 2007, 11:25	#34
Kev Just Kev Join Date: 01.06.2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,857	We know this because we've heard the other recording and other live recordings. A high percentage of fans won't have a clue and just think the whole thing is live. Like I've said, I'd rather have a dvd with good vocals and sounding good rather than a DVD with crap vocals and Meat sounding/looking crap.

15 Jun 2007, 12:25	#35
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	Nah, I'd rather have a REAL live dvd, with the whole atmosphere of the show, than listening to the studio vocals half of the time. Even if he struggles with some notes. Otherwise I could just put the album into the cd player and have the same effect. (didnt I say that a few posts above? ah well)

15 Jun 2007, 14:07	#36
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	Wait a minute. Which parts on the Melbourne dvd are fake?

15 Jun 2007, 16:32	#37
Kev Just Kev Join Date: 01.06.2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,857	not fake, just tweaked

15 Jun 2007, 16:54	#38
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	which parts? and what does tweak mean?

15 Jun 2007, 17:35	#39
Ma.Ra Trekkie Join Date: 25.07.2004 Location: in the middle of nowhere Posts: 863	The better question is: "What does tweak mean for each personally?"

15 Jun 2007, 21:00	#40
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	There's a bit in Testify for a start!

17 Jun 2007, 10:42	#41
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	What part? When I listen to Testify and CHSIB I get the feeling that the vocals are taken from te album. Am i right aboiut that?

29 Jun 2007, 16:52	#43
lorenzoduke Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.07.2006 Posts: 1,269	Too bad they didn't record the RAH show at the start of the tour. The bootleg that has been circulating was excellent, and any overdubs could have been minimal. Oh well. I agree with icwuke, I'd rather have a great sounding/looking DVD than one full of screw-ups. At the end of the day, whether it was live at the venue or elsewhere, it's still Meat singing.

29 Jun 2007, 18:28	#44
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	with the massive difference in quality of the single shows it's like gambling to record a good show.

14 Jul 2007, 12:07	#46
meatloaf-unofficial Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.02.2006 Location: Touring the Country Posts: 2,558	that would have been a cool idea Evil One - call it a promotional release for the dvd in october or soemthing like that....... I think the IACTMN is a promotion sale for the dvd - don·t you???