Meat Loaf vs. Jim Steinman - Page 2

duke knooby · 09 Apr 2009, 00:04

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Originally Posted by nikox1

bat out of hell 3 went ahead for a good reason,

either that, or there was a contract in place to record a record of that name

only messin

don't shoot me

nikox1 · 09 Apr 2009, 00:13

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

and this, ladies and gentlemen, is the beginning of the argument that gets this sort of thread locked.

and this is why it gets locked [ because people get dramatic ]
HELP!! its the end of the world

Pudding · 09 Apr 2009, 00:21

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

and this, ladies and gentlemen, is the beginning of the argument that gets this sort of thread locked.

I fail to follow your logic

since what was said wasn't at all that far from the truth.

1. bat out of hell 3 did go ahead for a good reason - money$$$ they thought it would be a cash cow on name alone.
2. jim doesnt seem to be writing songs for anybody these days
3. he does write slowly, so usually record companys dont wait!

Pud

nikox1 · 09 Apr 2009, 00:26

thanks pudding

i was wondering what the hell i was ment to have said wrong?

**RadioMaster** · 09 Apr 2009, 09:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding

I fail to follow your logic

since what was said wasn't at all that far from the truth.

I didnt say that he/she wasnt right, I just said that this was the start of the usual debate, which will go out of control soon.
And, as it looks right now, I was probably right.

*AndyK* · 09 Apr 2009, 10:54

It only gets out of control if people let it get out of control...

Let's see if it's possible to have a discussion round this topic where people actually think before pressing "post reply" shall we

**RadioMaster** · 09 Apr 2009, 11:17

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Originally Posted by AndyK

think before pressing "post reply"

Now youre really asking too much of us

WhenItComes2LovingU · 19 Apr 2009, 22:43

I don't think that's asking too much of us. Basically, without trying to psych myself out about the whole thing thinking of who's done what to whom over time, I think Sam Ellis came up with the best possible summation back in 1977 before everything: "It's a love-hate relationship that you've gotta love." When they're "in love," metaphorically speaking, the whole world is springtime, and we get a lot of goodies out of the deal. On the other hand, when they're not...well, let's just say they must have been "in love" a lot because they did some of their best work together for a long time, and who's been the better for it? Us!

Pudding · 19 Apr 2009, 23:01

Jim writes the songs (whenever he can be bothered) and Meat Loaf is the vehicle to which those songs are sung (some of the time). Deadringer is a fantastic album and they weren't 'in love' when that was done.

Pud

lisa01 · 19 Apr 2009, 23:33

I think meat loaf may work with jim when the time is right for both of them to work together. i think jim is a fantastic writer and meat loaf is a fantastic singer i hope meat loaf will put one of jims songs on the new album. i think meat loaf and jim have always had a very strong friendship and that what makes good team work.from lisa01

~Helen~ · 20 Apr 2009, 15:31

imo, so long as someone who can sing is recording Jim's songs (and he writes something!), and Meat is still recording something that's decent, i'm happy...it's bonus if we get Meat with new Jim material but (and this is fact, not criticism) with the speed Jim works at dunno to what extent i can see that happening. don't think any of us will ever know state of relationship between meat and jim, and seems it sometimes changes so often even if we did know, may be out of date before we knew it.
dont think there is anyone (even those who arent particular fans of meat) who wouldn't welcome meat recording some of jim's work and i can see a lot of excitement / expectation if we hear of that happening.

Jayd · 20 Apr 2009, 19:51

Talking of Bat The Musical, what is the craic with that, is it going ahead, or is it down the plug-hole ?

**allrevvedup** · 20 Apr 2009, 20:49

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Originally Posted by Jayd

Talking of Bat The Musical, what is the craic with that, is it going ahead, or is it down the plug-hole ?

yes to both questions...because with Jim you never know

WhenItComes2LovingU · 22 Apr 2009, 00:37

Well, maybe it's just a matter of when both are feeling creative then.

nikox1 · 22 Apr 2009, 16:41

the 12th of neverland

19 Apr 2009, 23:33	#35
lisa01 Super Loafer Join Date: 01.04.2009 Location: Ashington in Northumberland Posts: 334	Meat loaf v Jimsteinman I think meat loaf may work with jim when the time is right for both of them to work together. i think jim is a fantastic writer and meat loaf is a fantastic singer i hope meat loaf will put one of jims songs on the new album. i think meat loaf and jim have always had a very strong friendship and that what makes good team work.from lisa01

09 Apr 2009, 00:26	#29
nikox1 Mega Loafer Join Date: 05.07.2007 Location: Front line of the battle Posts: 2,657	thanks pudding i was wondering what the hell i was ment to have said wrong?

09 Apr 2009, 10:54	#31
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	It only gets out of control if people let it get out of control... Let's see if it's possible to have a discussion round this topic where people actually think before pressing "post reply" shall we

19 Apr 2009, 22:43	#33
WhenItComes2LovingU Banned Join Date: 16.01.2006 Posts: 303	I don't think that's asking too much of us. Basically, without trying to psych myself out about the whole thing thinking of who's done what to whom over time, I think Sam Ellis came up with the best possible summation back in 1977 before everything: "It's a love-hate relationship that you've gotta love." When they're "in love," metaphorically speaking, the whole world is springtime, and we get a lot of goodies out of the deal. On the other hand, when they're not...well, let's just say they must have been "in love" a lot because they did some of their best work together for a long time, and who's been the better for it? Us!

19 Apr 2009, 23:01	#34
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	Jim writes the songs (whenever he can be bothered) and Meat Loaf is the vehicle to which those songs are sung (some of the time). Deadringer is a fantastic album and they weren't 'in love' when that was done. Pud

20 Apr 2009, 15:31	#36
~Helen~ Mega Loafer Join Date: 01.11.2007 Location: Manchester Posts: 1,958	imo, so long as someone who can sing is recording Jim's songs (and he writes something!), and Meat is still recording something that's decent, i'm happy...it's bonus if we get Meat with new Jim material but (and this is fact, not criticism) with the speed Jim works at dunno to what extent i can see that happening. don't think any of us will ever know state of relationship between meat and jim, and seems it sometimes changes so often even if we did know, may be out of date before we knew it. dont think there is anyone (even those who arent particular fans of meat) who wouldn't welcome meat recording some of jim's work and i can see a lot of excitement / expectation if we hear of that happening.

20 Apr 2009, 19:51	#37
Jayd If I could bust into hell....... I would Join Date: 13.06.2003 Location: Montclair, New Jersey Posts: 1,314	Talking of Bat The Musical, what is the craic with that, is it going ahead, or is it down the plug-hole ?

22 Apr 2009, 00:37	#39
WhenItComes2LovingU Banned Join Date: 16.01.2006 Posts: 303	Well, maybe it's just a matter of when both are feeling creative then.

22 Apr 2009, 16:41	#40
nikox1 Mega Loafer Join Date: 05.07.2007 Location: Front line of the battle Posts: 2,657	the 12th of neverland