Celebrity Apprentice Week 11

[melon]

Originally Posted by Vickip

Excellent .. thanks Mel

Don't have to thank me, that song is AWESOME!

[Vickip]

Originally Posted by melon

Don't have to thank me, that song is AWESOME!

Sorry if I'm being dense, but I couldn't find it on Itunes. Do you have a link Or are you thinking of the link that was posted earlier (Ryan Secrest's page)

Thanks again And yes .. it's definitely awesome !!

[Vickip]

Originally Posted by meatfanforlife

Sorry Trump, but you dont have backbone.

[melon]

I haven't downloaded iTunes yet, I don't have iTunes on my computer, I use a different download site, which obviously doesn't have Standing in the storm! Dang nabbit. lol

[Vickip]

Originally Posted by melon

I haven't downloaded iTunes yet, I don't have iTunes on my computer, I use a different download site, which obviously doesn't have Standing in the storm! Dang nabbit. lol

Ah ok

[duke knooby]

Originally Posted by melon

Yeah, I'm on a drinking ban.....

a what????

[melon]

Originally Posted by duke knooby

a what????

Yeah I didn't expect that to compute much with most people around here

Go have yourself a whiskey, you know you want to.

[The Flying Mouse]

Well done coming in 3rd Meat
None too shabby, and a lot of money and awereness for a worthwhile cause

[CarylB]

This was the episode I wasn't looking forward to. There is no job in CA, and it strikes me it's a section designed to simply put contestants on the spot, try and antagonise them, and serves no real value save for the producers' idea of entertainment. The panel of CA winners Trump fields for these interviews has imo no expertise in establishing anyone's competency, not even for the final of this contest, and so it proved. Joan Rivers may have sat in the centre, but the pompous and arrogant Piers Morgan clearly chaired and led the interviews, challenging aggressively, not listening to answers given, and interrupting. The only questions I thought were pertinent and well put were those from Brett Michaels, but Morgan generally interrupted any attempts to answer them. True we saw only edited footage, but I think what I saw was probably representational of the whole.

In the first part we saw Meat interviewed and respond with honesty and integrity, defending his position and putting his case articulately and strongly insofar as he was allowed to speak. Morgan's agenda was clear imo. John Rich and Marlee would get through, LJ and Meat would not. I think few would doubt that JR was going through, and the trickiest question he had to field was Morgan suggesting that writing songs wasn't enough to be successful. Most people felt the second place would be between Meat and Marlee.

Meat got an aggressive grilling which he dealt with confidently and well. That Morgan should dwell on his one outburst of anger is the apotheosis of hypocracy given he rode his own voyage to CA success with a series of angry and antagonistic outbursts at Omarosa. It had been decided imo to jettison Meat, despite his strong performance in every task, because he was emotional, and any explanation or defence was rudey interrupted or ignored by Morgan. Meat pointed out that he had shown many other strengths. Was he allowed to finish? Was this listened to? No, Morgan switched to suggesting he had anger management issues and "nearly beat up Gary Busey". Brett asked an excellent question, that being on the edge did he feel he could focus enough to win. Is Meat allowed to answer? No. Morgan switches to talk to Brett. Joan loved and understood his passion, Brett imo would have been open to being convinced had Meat been allowed to respond, but that aggressive buffon Morgan prevented it. He was of course editor of the Daily Mirror, the rag that has rarely hd a good word to say about Meat, certainly not until well after Morgan was sacked .. for disgraceful behaviour in business!

Even when pressed to throw his fellow contestants "under the bus", Meat was honest and honourable, and the only criticism he made was proved the case in the final task which followed. I have interviewed many senior executives for many senior positions over the years, and he was the only one who would have convinced me that he was speaking with total honesty and complete integrity in all his replies.

Marlee on the other hand got an easy ride. Some chat about her Oscar, a bit of concern expressed about her having tapped out her big hitters, which would not be an issue in the final task, a chance to talk about her representing the deaf community, and the one more searching question about her lack of all round performance, and did she agree that her performance had tailed off, was answered with a simple "No" .. and they moved on.

The final boardroom session saw LJ fired, according to Trump because he had not said to the interviewers that he should be one of the final two when asked, despite saying to Trump when asked that he should be kept on. Right decision but a more honest reason would have been good. Meat was the last contestant to be fired, because the panel had unanimously agreed he was over-emotional .. for that read Morgan had decided this, and doubtlesss Trump had even before they went into the room. He accepted it with dignity and grace, managed his disappointment, and left with his head held high.

Meat had played a straight game throughout, had demonstrated a broad raft of leadership skills, energy, focus, and that amazing creativity of his. If to be a CA winner he needed to lose any of that honesty, that depth of feeling, that refusal to undermine his fellow contestants he maintained throughout, all I can say is I'm glad he wasn't in the final two. It's been a privilege to watch him working, busting his balls of steel, genuinely growing and learning about himself (for his declaration of how much he'd gained was no mere mouth music to flatter Trump) and competing fiercely without ever compromising his beliefs and ethics, losing his passion and compassion, or not being true to himself. He came to work hard, not get fired and win money for Painted Turtle. He did that in spades. Meat started with integrity, showed it throughout and ended with it intact. Not only the biggest celebrity on this series, the biggest man with the biggest heart and the most honour. And imo he left the biggest winner of all.

He simply worked hard,
He was gracious not cruel.
And he played the game fairly,
But was nobody's fool.
He maintained his integrity
Right to the end.
And when he said goodbye,
He left with his head high,
He came and he won,
Yes, he's always a winner to me

Caryl

[robgomm]

Like i said in the other thread, thank you Meat, for showing the world what a wonderful human being you are. Imo Marlee wouldn't stand a chance without your creative energy on her side. I hope your team wins next week. We are all so proud of what you've done for painted turtle.

[allrevvedup]

Found this on Def Leppard's website

Be sure to watch the season finale of “The Celebrity Apprentice” next Sunday, May 22nd on NBC at 9/8c to see how well John Rich and his team can successfully put on their 7UP campaign event with Def Leppard.

[realViking]

I watched the clip this morning..and when Meat entered in the old costume with the wig, I started to laugh so much that the tears popped out of my eyes...wow..he really knows how to entertain.
And he really made my day!
He just keeps to amaze me in everything he does...
Our Meaty-boy is an amazing MAN!!!

Tine

[LisaT]

Well, I have just watched the first part of last night's show. It is still playing on the TV in the background but, for some reason, I am more interested in typing this than watching the rest of the show! Of course, like everyone else here, I am VERY proud of what Meat achieved on this show for his beloved charity. But, I'm not gonna lie, the only reason I have been watching the show is because Meat was a contender. I have never seen this show before, as I live in the UK, and I doubt I will ever watch it again.

I think it's a damn shame that Meat got fired just because he was too emotional. What a load of ****! The message this gives is that it is a sign of weakness to be emotional. Well, I disagree! I think, to be able to wear your heart on your sleeve is an admirable quality and one that shows courage, not weakness. But hell, what do I know?!

I will watch the rest of the show, but only because Meat is still a part of it. I couldn't give two hoots who wins now! Am I being a bit shallow? Maybe. But I am far too disappointed right now to care!

[nikox1]

as i watched on, Meat would of been a far stronger choice than Matlin.
thats twice maybe 3 times she has proven to be a weak leader imo, Meats more creative and a stronger leader imo. well done coming 3rd Meat

[CarylB]

As I watched on Meat seemed to be doing most of the work .. but then, that's what he does He's a team player, gives his all .. and if Marlee wins so has Meat imo

Caryl

[Elijah's way]

so how can I find Standing In The Storm?

[Vickip]

Originally Posted by Elijah's way

so how can I find Standing In The Storm?

It's still not on Itunes yet .. hopefully it will be soon !

[nikox1]

none of the other 3 seem to be mentioning it at the moment ?

[LisaT]

Originally Posted by CarylB

This was the episode I wasn't looking forward to. There is no job in CA, and it strikes me it's a section designed to simply put contestants on the spot, try and antagonise them, and serves no real value save for the producers' idea of entertainment. The panel of CA winners Trump fields for these interviews has imo no expertise in establishing anyone's competency, not even for the final of this contest, and so it proved. Joan Rivers may have sat in the centre, but the pompous and arrogant Piers Morgan clearly chaired and led the interviews, challenging aggressively, not listening to answers given, and interrupting. The only questions I thought were pertinent and well put were those from Brett Michaels, but Morgan generally interrupted any attempts to answer them. True we saw only edited footage, but I think what I saw was probably representational of the whole.

In the first part we saw Meat interviewed and respond with honesty and integrity, defending his position and putting his case articulately and strongly insofar as he was allowed to speak. Morgan's agenda was clear imo. John Rich and Marlee would get through, LJ and Meat would not. I think few would doubt that JR was going through, and the trickiest question he had to field was Morgan suggesting that writing songs wasn't enough to be successful. Most people felt the second place would be between Meat and Marlee.

Meat got an aggressive grilling which he dealt with confidently and well. That Morgan should dwell on his one outburst of anger is the apotheosis of hypocracy given he rode his own voyage to CA success with a series of angry and antagonistic outbursts at Omarosa. It had been decided imo to jettison Meat, despite his strong performance in every task, because he was emotional, and any explanation or defence was rudey interrupted or ignored by Morgan. Meat pointed out that he had shown many other strengths. Was he allowed to finish? Was this listened to? No, Morgan switched to suggesting he had anger management issues and "nearly beat up Gary Busey". Brett asked an excellent question, that being on the edge did he feel he could focus enough to win. Is Meat allowed to answer? No. Morgan switches to talk to Brett. Joan loved and understood his passion, Brett imo would have been open to being convinced had Meat been allowed to respond, but that aggressive buffon Morgan prevented it. He was of course editor of the Daily Mirror, the rag that has rarely hd a good word to say about Meat, certainly not until well after Morgan was sacked .. for disgraceful behaviour in business!

Even when pressed to throw his fellow contestants "under the bus", Meat was honest and honourable, and the only criticism he made was proved the case in the final task which followed. I have interviewed many senior executives for many senior positions over the years, and he was the only one who would have convinced me that he was speaking with total honesty and complete integrity in all his replies.

Marlee on the other hand got an easy ride. Some chat about her Oscar, a bit of concern expressed about her having tapped out her big hitters, which would not be an issue in the final task, a chance to talk about her representing the deaf community, and the one more searching question about her lack of all round performance, and did she agree that her performance had tailed off, was answered with a simple "No" .. and they moved on.

The final boardroom session saw LJ fired, according to Trump because he had not said to the interviewers that he should be one of the final two when asked, despite saying to Trump when asked that he should be kept on. Right decision but a more honest reason would have been good. Meat was the last contestant to be fired, because the panel had unanimously agreed he was over-emotional .. for that read Morgan had decided this, and doubtlesss Trump had even before they went into the room. He accepted it with dignity and grace, managed his disappointment, and left with his head held high.

Meat had played a straight game throughout, had demonstrated a broad raft of leadership skills, energy, focus, and that amazing creativity of his. If to be a CA winner he needed to lose any of that honesty, that depth of feeling, that refusal to undermine his fellow contestants he maintained throughout, all I can say is I'm glad he wasn't in the final two. It's been a privilege to watch him working, busting his balls of steel, genuinely growing and learning about himself (for his declaration of how much he'd gained was no mere mouth music to flatter Trump) and competing fiercely without ever compromising his beliefs and ethics, losing his passion and compassion, or not being true to himself. He came to work hard, not get fired and win money for Painted Turtle. He did that in spades. Meat started with integrity, showed it throughout and ended with it intact. Not only the biggest celebrity on this series, the biggest man with the biggest heart and the most honour. And imo he left the biggest winner of all.

He simply worked hard,
He was gracious not cruel.
And he played the game fairly,
But was nobody's fool.
He maintained his integrity
Right to the end.
And when he said goodbye,
He left with his head high,
He came and he won,
Yes, he's always a winner to me

Caryl

Totally agree with everything you've said here, Caryl. I don't think Meat stood much of a chance in his interview, because it would appear that the decision had already been made. Meat should have been up against John Rich, and NOT Marlee. I don't know about anybody else, but I've had a feeling all the way through that Marlee was going to be in the final, no matter what? And I could have punched Piers Morgan in the face!

[LisaT]

I've just been over to the NBC website and told them what I think about Meat being fired! Anyone else fancy doing the same?

[RSG]

Dig your enthusiasm. But Trump made up his mind with Latoya (and rehiring her), and said he would never do same again. But I concur, I not satisfied with how Trump dealt with firing Lil Jon & Meat. Not just cause I'm a fan. It just wasn't right. And a pretty poor way to end a exciting season.

[LisaT]

Originally Posted by RSG

Dig your enthusiasm. But Trump made up his mind with Latoya (and rehiring her), and said he would never do same again. But I concur, I not satisfied with how Trump dealt with firing Lil Jon & Meat. Not just cause I'm a fan. It just wasn't right. And a pretty poor way to end a exciting season.

I didn't actually do it in the hope that Meat would be rehired - I know there's not a cat in hell's chance of that happening! I was just feeling pretty angry at the way that Piers Morgan conducted his part of Meat's interview and I wanted to tell Trump that, in my opinion, he had made a BIG mistake by firing Meat! I know it won't make a blind bit of difference, I just needed to get it off my chest!

[RSG]

Mr. Morgan wasn't really kind to any of them. I really didn't like that episode, where's the balls Trump? Sure the process would be hard to eliminate out of the 4 players, but it just isn't right. I'll be done ranting after I get some sleep :)

[JennaG]

They're a bunch of Meat haters on the NBC boards. In fact a lot of CA fans seem to be Meat haters and are making a judgement on him based on the Busey incident and the fact that he's so emotional. They don't think he should have made the final four, let alone the final two.

They're making a judgement about Meat as a whole person based on the scenes that were obviously chosen to maximise ratings. No matter what anyone says they're going to carry on thinking the way they do and so I decided that it was pointless posting there.

I personally don't think Meat should have been fired. He worked hard and was passionate about his charity. The only thing that let him down was his emotions, which I see no problem with, but unfortunately the panel did. Part of me wonders if Meat's emotions would be such a big deal if he wasn't a man? After all, the CA fans have said very little in comparison about Marlee becoming upset over losing the task and Star Jones being fired.

[JennaG]

Originally Posted by Skybird14

Episode 10: http://www.videobb.com/video/f9PqZBNiOFpS

I've only just realised my error in this post. It was MEANT to say Episode 11.