New BOOH Not A Sequal, A Continuation - Page 2

LucyK! · 31 May 2013, 10:41

I can only hope that last post comes with a serious helping of sarcasm and people aren't really believing this is Bat 4!!

Sebastian. · 31 May 2013, 12:03

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Originally Posted by LucyK!

I can only hope that last post comes with a serious helping of sarcasm and people aren't really believing this is Bat 4!!

I treating it the same way as "the last tour".

nikox1 · 31 May 2013, 12:59

Sony records. Actually want it called bat 4,, so I was told? But my earlier post was an attempt at sarcasm ( how dare I ).

LucyK! · 31 May 2013, 13:06

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Originally Posted by nikox1

But my earlier post was an attempt at sarcasm ( how dare I ).

Thank goodness!

GDW · 31 May 2013, 13:30

We have already had Bat4. Remember the back cover of HCTB. IV. So the new album should be Bat5.

Meat Loaf_fan · 31 May 2013, 15:17

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Originally Posted by nikox1

Yes!!!! It's bat 4,, brave and crazy is just a smoke screen.

Smoke screen?

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Originally Posted by GDW

We have already had Bat4. Remember the back cover of HCTB. IV. So the new album should be Bat5.

Evil One · 31 May 2013, 15:29

This is ridiculous.

nikox1 · 31 May 2013, 15:48

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Originally Posted by Evil One

This is ridiculous.

Bat out of hell 4. THIS IS RIDICULOUS

Nice title!!!

loaferman61 · 31 May 2013, 15:50

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Originally Posted by nikox1

Bat 4 is gonna be great I reckon

There is no "Bat 3' as far as I'm concerned. Just a title the record company kept pushing for after Jim left the project. I call it TMIL only, some good songs but not a true "Bat" album. Three Jim songs with him directly involved is much more a "Bat 3" even though it is now called "Brave and Crazy".

loaferman61 · 31 May 2013, 15:57

A true Bat album would be either Jim producing all the songs even if he chooses stuff by other writers. I know Todd produced Bat I with Jim's input, but Jim's production is far better on Bat II especially the vocals. I never thought the Bat I vocals were Meat's best after hearing him live because they are sped up as Meat mentioned when introducing "2 Out of 3" last summer. He said something to the effect of people expect the song to sound like the record but he never sounded like the record because they sped it up & he can't sing as fast as Alvin the Chipmunk. He did sing one line like Alvin though which was hilarious.

nikox1 · 31 May 2013, 18:08

Everybody has a different view on BAT 3!!!! Haha,, look every album sounds different to the next one, production, type or style of songs etc etc,, jim is a fantastic songwriter and a good producer. In fairness jim had years upon years to get bat 2 right, in this day and age people don't get that sort of time anymore. So under such huge and most likely unwanted pressure meat and co did a good job on bat 3, like turning the butcher is king into an actual song was nothing short of genius IMO ( child deserves credit for that ) also seize the night IMO sounded pretty OTT ( just as jim intended ). Plus alive and blind as a bat are some of meats best work IMO. who is to say if they were given 7 years to make bat 3 that they couldn't of have made it fantastic? To a record company BAT is just a successful brand!!! To the us and meat/jim it's a lot more. Lets hope all the songs are great on brave and crazy

CarylB · 31 May 2013, 20:01

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Originally Posted by nikox1

Everybody has a different view on BAT 3!!!! ...

And sadly imo you've opened up another debate all over again

RSG · 31 May 2013, 20:22

one day I will open my eye wide and it will all ring clear, Meat and Jim to record Bat again, get outta here.

loaferman61 · 31 May 2013, 21:23

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Originally Posted by CarylB

And sadly imo you've opened up another debate all over again

Considering that the topic is a "continuation" to "Bat", why is it not relevant to discuss the albums that bear that name? Sadly. IMO.

wolfy35 · 01 Jun 2013, 00:25

Sorry misterfive I could not disagree with you more if I was bribed to.

Bat & Bat 2 do not need any updating or tweaks of any form and frankly to suggest they do is doing a massive disservice to them.

The fact that in the case of Bat over 36 years after its original release it still continues to sell is testament to the fact that Meat & Jim got it spot on

Bat 2 came on the scene and just blew even the most loyal Meat fans like myself who have followed since the beginning away, It was a real lightning strikes twice moment.

Maybe you should consider that in the LAB tour the entire 2nd half of the show was BOOH with a good chunk of the 1st half was from B2 and STILL raved about as evidence to support something I once saw reported as Meat saying when he was asked if they would consider remixing Bat 1 & 2 to give them a more modern feel.

"When you get something right the first time the smart move is not to change it"

nikox1 · 01 Jun 2013, 00:30

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Originally Posted by CarylB

And sadly imo you've opened up another debate all over again

And why is that a problem? The thread has bat in the title? And I have not written anything offensive have I? Just calm down nikox1!!! It's not worth it!!! Deep breaths!!! Focus!!!

tonyloaf · 01 Jun 2013, 00:32

Adje dressed up like a recycle bin .... :)

Evil One · 01 Jun 2013, 00:56

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Originally Posted by nikox1

And why is that a problem? The thread has bat in the title? And I have not written anything offensive have I? Just calm down nikox1!!! It's not worth it!!! Deep breaths!!! Focus!!!

Because it is what you always do. Half your posts are concerned with stirring the Bat 3 pot of shit. Yes it is an interesting discussion, but it is one where there is nothing left to discuss. Yet here you are attempting to stir up the hornet's nest yet again. Next you'll don your martyr's hat and act the victim for a bit, then make a song and dance about leaving and flounce off into the ether for six months before returning to begin the cycle again.

stretch37 · 01 Jun 2013, 01:37

In all fairness, I think Nikox was just continuing the Bat 3 discussion we were having earlier in the thread....Why react so much to what he said? What you said, Evil One, could also be seen as stirring the pot after reacting to Nikox's post

....I don't see why a friendly discussion about Bat 3 (continued from earlier in the thread) should be a problem, as long as it follows the forum rules..I mean, correct me if I'm wrong or missed something, but it seems like a non issue.

nikox1 · 01 Jun 2013, 04:42

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Originally Posted by Evil One

Because it is what you always do. Half your posts are concerned with stirring the Bat 3 pot of shit. Yes it is an interesting discussion, but it is one where there is nothing left to discuss. Yet here you are attempting to stir up the hornet's nest yet again. Next you'll don your martyr's hat and act the victim for a bit, then make a song and dance about leaving and flounce off into the ether for six months before returning to begin the cycle again.

Where is your evidence of me stirring the pot? You have none, as usual it's just a personal attack from you. The usual cowardly attack from behind a computer screen. @ carylB you also had no reason to wade into the discussion either? ( except again only for personnel reasons ). There is nowhere in my above posts that I stirred any pot? Nor did I stirr any hornets nest? So I can only assume it's for personal reasons.

CarylB · 01 Jun 2013, 05:10

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Originally Posted by nikox1

@ carylB you also had no reason to wade into the discussion either? ( except again only for personnel reasons )

I was IN the discussion already. Nothing to do with personnel or personal reasons

I agree with this re Bat 3 and all the arguments over its title:
... it is one where there is nothing left to discuss.

nikox1 · 01 Jun 2013, 05:42

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Originally Posted by CarylB

I was IN the discussion already. Nothing to do with personnel or personal reasons

I agree with this re Bat 3 and all the arguments over its title:
... it is one where there is nothing left to discuss.

U also liked a post by evil one when he accused me of shit stirring? That's normal from him etc etc,, but what he wrote about me was from the past ( something that I dealt with badly I agree ). But for you to like he's comments to me , is pointing out u agree with he's post? And just because you don't think there is anything left to discuss? Others were not agreeing with you, I was adding things in response to some other members posts.

Paul Richardson · 01 Jun 2013, 10:47

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Originally Posted by wolfy35

... you should consider that in the LAB tour the entire 2nd half of the show was BOOH with a good chunk of the 1st half was from B2 ...

Now there's (almost) an idea - how about a Last At Bat, Last At Bat Tour with a first act of Bat 2 sung in sequence, followed by a second act of Bat 1 sung in sequence followed by an encore of Dead Ringer For Love

Paul Richardson · 01 Jun 2013, 10:51

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Originally Posted by Evil One

Half your posts are concerned with stirring the Bat 3 pot of shit.

You mean Meat just went ahead and produced the album without Jim ... really ... ? I never knew that ... I thought it was a true collaboration like all the other BOOH albums ... shocking ...

stretch37 · 01 Jun 2013, 11:01

seriously can we stop picking on nikox please? I am happy to just see him posting again, nothing was said by him that should have upset anyone. BostonAngel, why did you even dislike his post? Seriously, this has gone far enough.

31 May 2013, 10:41	#26
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	I can only hope that last post comes with a serious helping of sarcasm and people aren't really believing this is Bat 4!!

31 May 2013, 12:59	#28
nikox1 Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.07.2007 Location: Front line of the battle Posts: 2,657	Sony records. Actually want it called bat 4,, so I was told? But my earlier post was an attempt at sarcasm ( how dare I ).

31 May 2013, 13:30	#30
GDW Super Loafer Join Date: 26.03.2010 Location: Perth Posts: 984	We have already had Bat4. Remember the back cover of HCTB. IV. So the new album should be Bat5.

31 May 2013, 15:29	#32
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	This is ridiculous.

31 May 2013, 15:57	#35
loaferman61 Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.03.2003 Location: In the dark Posts: 1,557	A true Bat album would be either Jim producing all the songs even if he chooses stuff by other writers. I know Todd produced Bat I with Jim's input, but Jim's production is far better on Bat II especially the vocals. I never thought the Bat I vocals were Meat's best after hearing him live because they are sped up as Meat mentioned when introducing "2 Out of 3" last summer. He said something to the effect of people expect the song to sound like the record but he never sounded like the record because they sped it up & he can't sing as fast as Alvin the Chipmunk. He did sing one line like Alvin though which was hilarious.

31 May 2013, 18:08	#36
nikox1 Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.07.2007 Location: Front line of the battle Posts: 2,657	Everybody has a different view on BAT 3!!!! Haha,, look every album sounds different to the next one, production, type or style of songs etc etc,, jim is a fantastic songwriter and a good producer. In fairness jim had years upon years to get bat 2 right, in this day and age people don't get that sort of time anymore. So under such huge and most likely unwanted pressure meat and co did a good job on bat 3, like turning the butcher is king into an actual song was nothing short of genius IMO ( child deserves credit for that ) also seize the night IMO sounded pretty OTT ( just as jim intended ). Plus alive and blind as a bat are some of meats best work IMO. who is to say if they were given 7 years to make bat 3 that they couldn't of have made it fantastic? To a record company BAT is just a successful brand!!! To the us and meat/jim it's a lot more. Lets hope all the songs are great on brave and crazy

31 May 2013, 20:22	#38
RSG Mega Loafer Join Date: 27.07.2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,296	one day I will open my eye wide and it will all ring clear, Meat and Jim to record Bat again, get outta here.

01 Jun 2013, 00:25	#40
wolfy35 Dangerous on a full moon Join Date: 14.03.2007 Location: Standing on the outside, Looking in on you Posts: 751	Sorry misterfive I could not disagree with you more if I was bribed to. Bat & Bat 2 do not need any updating or tweaks of any form and frankly to suggest they do is doing a massive disservice to them. The fact that in the case of Bat over 36 years after its original release it still continues to sell is testament to the fact that Meat & Jim got it spot on Bat 2 came on the scene and just blew even the most loyal Meat fans like myself who have followed since the beginning away, It was a real lightning strikes twice moment. Maybe you should consider that in the LAB tour the entire 2nd half of the show was BOOH with a good chunk of the 1st half was from B2 and STILL raved about as evidence to support something I once saw reported as Meat saying when he was asked if they would consider remixing Bat 1 & 2 to give them a more modern feel. "When you get something right the first time the smart move is not to change it"

01 Jun 2013, 00:32	#42
tonyloaf Metal Head Join Date: 15.05.2006 Location: Brighton Posts: 2,398	Adje dressed up like a recycle bin .... :)

01 Jun 2013, 01:37	#44
stretch37 Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.06.2008 Location: Posts: 2,119	In all fairness, I think Nikox was just continuing the Bat 3 discussion we were having earlier in the thread....Why react so much to what he said? What you said, Evil One, could also be seen as stirring the pot after reacting to Nikox's post ....I don't see why a friendly discussion about Bat 3 (continued from earlier in the thread) should be a problem, as long as it follows the forum rules..I mean, correct me if I'm wrong or missed something, but it seems like a non issue.

01 Jun 2013, 11:01	#50
stretch37 Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.06.2008 Location: Posts: 2,119	seriously can we stop picking on nikox please? I am happy to just see him posting again, nothing was said by him that should have upset anyone. BostonAngel, why did you even dislike his post? Seriously, this has gone far enough.